How Likely Are You To Take The Covid Vaccine?
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i_b_b_o_r_g said:I'll take it, like I take all the other meds I take on a daily basis, but I definitely don't lump people that are concerned about this particular vaccine into the flat earth brigade.
Personally, I'm up for the free 5G chip and Microsoft updates I get with the jab : - )5 -
hoof_it_up_to_benty said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:I'll take it, like I take all the other meds I take on a daily basis, but I definitely don't lump people that are concerned about this particular vaccine into the flat earth brigade.
I'm sure plenty of people have concerns but there is information out there. If you choose to source your info on anecdotes from Facebook you won't get very far.
Vaccine and virus aside, reckon that kind of vitrio towards people who have different opinions and concerns, is one of the biggest threats to society today.
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100% from me.0
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Thank you Ewell do:
'Pork gelatin and egg protein and the only animal derivatives used in vaccines that I know of but we probably won't know for the Pfizer one for a while due to the risk of imitation.'
It does beg the question why have pork gelatin in the mix? I thought they made jelly with that.
I truly think that the scientists should be open about what's in their vaccines: Pfizer prizes are surely irrelevant at this time?
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thewolfboy said:Thank you Ewell do:
'Pork gelatin and egg protein and the only animal derivatives used in vaccines that I know of but we probably won't know for the Pfizer one for a while due to the risk of imitation.'
It does beg the question why have pork gelatin in the mix? I thought they made jelly with that.
I truly think that the scientists should be open about what's in their vaccines: Pfizer prizes are surely irrelevant at this time?
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i_b_b_o_r_g said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:I'll take it, like I take all the other meds I take on a daily basis, but I definitely don't lump people that are concerned about this particular vaccine into the flat earth brigade.
I'm sure plenty of people have concerns but there is information out there. If you choose to source your info on anecdotes from Facebook you won't get very far.
Vaccine and virus aside, reckon that kind of vitrio towards people who have different opinions and concerns, is one of the biggest threats to society today.
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thewolfboy said:Thank you Ewell do:
'Pork gelatin and egg protein and the only animal derivatives used in vaccines that I know of but we probably won't know for the Pfizer one for a while due to the risk of imitation.'
It does beg the question why have pork gelatin in the mix? I thought they made jelly with that.
I truly think that the scientists should be open about what's in their vaccines: Pfizer prizes are surely irrelevant at this time?
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From what can dig up, the ingredients are listed here:
https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/lookup.cfm?setid=908ecbe7-2f1b-42dd-94bf-f917ec3c5af8&version=1
so there's the RNA, there's some lipid (to make the liposomes in which the RNA is enveloped) and salts and sugar.
This is just the Pfizer vaccine, lots of others undergoing trials which have a variety of formulations and types.0 -
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It's been a constant struggle between mankind and nature since time immemorial. From cradle to the grave we are trying to stay one step ahead of the myriad of Viruses and nasties that want to shorten our lives.
Vaccines and Anti biotics/drugs have cured so many diseases including the shocking killer of many young people tuberculosis. TB/Consumption only started to be eradicated after the BCG vaccine, first used in 1921 in France and the work of Waksman and his team in 1944 when they came up with an antibiotic. Another 10 years before thousands of British School kids started being vaccinated. In other western countries it was a similar time scale.
Viruses need hosts; it our duty for the common good to have the vaccine.
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I genuinely hope the vaccine is vegan.
Laugh and mock if you want, but nevertheless it is my hope.8 -
If it means I can get back to working from the office sooner, I'll take all the doses of the vaccine. Every last one...
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seth plum said:I genuinely hope the vaccine is vegan.
Laugh and mock if you want, but nevertheless it is my hope.
Would you genuinely not have the vaccine because of your animal rights beliefs and risk catching the virus and infecting your loved ones?
The pork gelatin will cause issue with the Jewish and Muslim population as well I'd have thought.0 -
Addickted said:seth plum said:I genuinely hope the vaccine is vegan.
Laugh and mock if you want, but nevertheless it is my hope.
Would you genuinely not have the vaccine because of your animal rights beliefs and risk catching the virus and infecting your loved ones?
The pork gelatin will cause issue with the Jewish and Muslim population as well I'd have thought.3 -
Henry Irving said:Addickted said:seth plum said:I genuinely hope the vaccine is vegan.
Laugh and mock if you want, but nevertheless it is my hope.
Would you genuinely not have the vaccine because of your animal rights beliefs and risk catching the virus and infecting your loved ones?
The pork gelatin will cause issue with the Jewish and Muslim population as well I'd have thought.1 -
Had an Anti-Vaxer/Masker shove his face into mine and Mrs UTB at Eltham Station, and start gobbing off about the BBC and the Govt being behind a national "reset".
He also said i would contract Legionella disease. He got a good old fashioned Eltham "F*@k Off"
He then went on to say COVID 19 was a hoax, i then invited him to volunteer at any COVID ward if it was just a flu. Didn't seem keen to take that offer up. And like most of these ill informed people they keep there children "off school, just in case".
As for the vaccine, absof*@Kinhglutely,,will take my turn in the queue, get back to normal, and get back down THE VALLEY.1 -
seth plum said:I genuinely hope the vaccine is vegan.
Laugh and mock if you want, but nevertheless it is my hope.0 - Sponsored links:
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Don't worry. If the vaccine is vegan, it will tell you.
Over and over and over again.20 -
Addickted said:seth plum said:I genuinely hope the vaccine is vegan.
Laugh and mock if you want, but nevertheless it is my hope.
Would you genuinely not have the vaccine because of your animal rights beliefs and risk catching the virus and infecting your loved ones?
The pork gelatin will cause issue with the Jewish and Muslim population as well I'd have thought.
I would not be a refusnik if there was no alternative.3 -
You ain't got to eat it mate1
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.....the very fact that it has been tested on animals must make it non vegan, regardless of the pork and egg extracts going into it, no?2
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Why porcine gelatine is used in vaccines
Gelatine is used in a very wide range of medicines, including many capsules and some vaccines. Porcine gelatine is used in vaccines as a stabiliser. This is to ensure that the vaccine remains safe and effective during storage. Vaccine manufacturers normally test a wide range of stabilisers and choose one that is stable, good quality and available in sufficient volume. Unlike the gelatine used in foods, the product used in vaccines is highly purified and broken down into very small molecules called peptides.
I would imagine many people, whether Vegan, vegetarian, Jewish or Muslim have been taking tablets for years that have porcine gelatine.
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colthe3rd said:Voted quite likely as it all depends on if a vaccine gets past the phase 3 stage. If any does then absolutely I would. We're still at a stage now that we don't really know if its safe or how effective, all the signs are positive though and if any of them get approved then I'd change my answer to very likely.0
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At 75 with emphysema, what choice do I have0
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soapboxsam said:
Why porcine gelatine is used in vaccines
Gelatine is used in a very wide range of medicines, including many capsules and some vaccines. Porcine gelatine is used in vaccines as a stabiliser. This is to ensure that the vaccine remains safe and effective during storage. Vaccine manufacturers normally test a wide range of stabilisers and choose one that is stable, good quality and available in sufficient volume. Unlike the gelatine used in foods, the product used in vaccines is highly purified and broken down into very small molecules called peptides.
I would imagine many people, whether Vegan, vegetarian, Jewish or Muslim have been taking tablets for years that have porcine gelatine.
I would accept the vaccine however, hopefully not as a hypocrite but because of both selfish personal benefit, and because of wider societal benefit.
I would feel regret that there isn't an alternative, but I wouldn't be an anti vaxxer because of the use of animal remains, as it would go towards stabilising things and I am not much of one for conspiracy theories.11 -
soapboxsam said:
Why porcine gelatine is used in vaccines
Gelatine is used in a very wide range of medicines, including many capsules and some vaccines. Porcine gelatine is used in vaccines as a stabiliser. This is to ensure that the vaccine remains safe and effective during storage. Vaccine manufacturers normally test a wide range of stabilisers and choose one that is stable, good quality and available in sufficient volume. Unlike the gelatine used in foods, the product used in vaccines is highly purified and broken down into very small molecules called peptides.
I would imagine many people, whether Vegan, vegetarian, Jewish or Muslim have been taking tablets for years that have porcine gelatine.
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Chizz said:Don't worry. If the vaccine is vegan, it will tell you.
Over and over and over again.
Again and again and again and again.
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