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Post Match Thread: Burton Albion v Charlton Athletic | Tuesday 24th November 2020
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Yeah that was bad. Move on.6
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Shocking defending but as expected with 2 makeshift CBs.
2 genuine cbs and we're not conceding those.
Some proper peering through the fingers stuff at times but positives in that we didn't look clueless throughout and made a load of chances. Brightened up when Morgan came on.
Will look back on this as a blip if we can get a consistent, injury free defence over the coming months. Will be interesting to see what we do in the transfer window too in January now that we are seemingly not a basket case off the pitch.
Onwards and upwards, some games in hand and still at the right end of the table.
Not a complete disaster, just a very poor night largely due to midfielders and right backs playing central defence.
We'll come good.14 -
agree with all the points about the defensive errors and stupidity in not using Barker, Pearce or Oshilaja - but it was in midfield that we lost it - no-one showed for the ball, moved in to space or created options and the back 4 were put under increased pressure and in possession either went sideways (and gifted them 2 goals) or resorted to long balls.13
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Yeah woeful tonight. Defence was shocking but I guess it's a makeshift defence. Poor individual performances. Only Morgan and Aneke looked capable tonight. Draw a line and move on from this. Ipswich well beaten at home so big game Saturday. Need a response.2
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Far too depressing to comment on that so just one question from me.
What the eff was Maatsen wearing on his feet tonight? If he slipped over once, he slipped over 20 times.
Word of advice, young man. Wear some boots with proper studs.4 -
Just going to leave this here.
Would Lapslie have made a positive difference to that midfield?4 -
You've certainly missed a good few then, its up there thats for sure but still dont think its the worstflyingkiwiDK said:That was without doubt the worst Charlton performance I have had the misfortune of watching under Bowyer. Let’s just hope it’s a one off and we bounce back against Ipswich on Saturday.
Every team is capable of having an off day (Villa v Liverpool for example). Hopefully that was ours.
Losing 4-0 to Leeds on the last day of the season probably the one for me, regardless of how good the opposition were1 -
Pratley was all over the place. So slow on the ball, weak in the air, off with his marking.Southbank said:Not surprising we let in goals with a makeshift defence and three individual defensive errors. We will get murdered by Ipswich if we defend like that again. Hopefully Pearce will be fit to start on Saturday.
The problem first half was lack of intensity, pedestrian build-up and lack of pace.
On Saturday I would bring Purrington and Pearce in, play Maatsen left side of the diamond and Smyth right side for their pace. Morgan instead of Maddison.
Amos
Matthews Pratley Pearce Purrington
Smyth Morgan Watson Maatsen
Washington Aneke
Subs MB, Gunter, Oshilaja, Shinnie, Gibley, Matthews, Bogle0 -
Lack of desire at the start set the tone and the game got away from us. When your striker beats 3 players putting the keeper on his back to create an open goal and it hits your strike partner and bounces into the arms of their keeper, you know it’s game over3
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It does irritate me that a lot of our fans are content to blame this on injuries - every club suffers them and that's what we have a squad for.
Shipping 4 goals against the bottom team who'd only won a single game this season is piss poor however you dress it up. We're in L1 ffs.
No excuses please Lee - just ensure no repeat on Saturday.2 - Sponsored links:
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He would have run around a lot, that's for sureHenry Irving said:Just going to leave this here.
Would Lapslie have made a positive difference to that midfield?2 -
Just when I forgot how much I can hate us , that little baby comes along to remind me5% Automatic promotion75% Play offs20% 7th-12th1
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Almost like a Les Reed performance in how clueless we were. Shinnie, Maddison, Gilbey, all hiding and did not want the ball. Morgan & Aneke were practically a two-man team when they came on.
Some of the worst goals I've ever seen us concede
LB has had weeks to work with the squad on a style of play and we've taken a gigantic leap backwards!
Can't believe I stayed up til 5am watching that5 -
No, the issue tonight was the Centre-Backs... the midfield got closed down well at times but once we started finding a bit of space we sorted ourselves out - What we missed tonight was leadership at the back.Henry Irving said:Just going to leave this here.
Would Lapslie have made a positive difference to that midfield?
As Greg Stubley said at the very start of the game; Atkin beat the offside trap early on because Pratley didnt have the sense of a Centre-Back to go with him, instead played a non existent offside trap
That there was the sign of how the start of the evening was going to go
Followed up a few minutes later with how easily Brayford ghosted into the box and nearly got through5 -
I'll address this properly, in fact. Our midfield changed when Morgan came on. A man with touch, poise, vision and passing ability. What would Lapslie have done that we weren't already doing? And instead of whom? Or are you done with ShinnieLeuth said:
He would have run around a lot, that's for sureHenry Irving said:Just going to leave this here.
Would Lapslie have made a positive difference to that midfield?6 -
Dog shit awful no other word for it.Pratley and Gunter not centres backs and certainly not ball playing ones. It put us in trouble and the midfield could not handle being pressed which caused more panic.A big wake up call but we ain’t suddenly a bad team from one performance alone and trust in bowyer to get a response.3
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Range Rover. Torturing Charlton fans since January 2020.2
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On borrowed time not playing players in key positions in their proper positions, whether your hand is forced or not. No recognised centre back in both positions in 2 games is asking for trouble.
All fell apart today by a team who knew how to get at us.
What a wasted chance to try and get some momentum built against the upcoming game with Ipswich.
Such a Charlton result.1 - Sponsored links:
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I’d take a steady eddy Purrington performance over Maatsen tonight. Fcuking Bambi on ice1
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Maddison was supposed to be able to influence a game, Watson supposed to bring nous and wisdom.
Gunter is not a central defender, he was a liability this evening, and senior or not Matthews is in better form and if we get defenders back Gunter is benched.
Williams is less effective than JFC, hope JFC is available soon.
Bowyer needs a dispassionate and unsentimental look at the squad...oh and some central defenders back!5 -
That is the concerning bit.Chunes said:Almost like a Les Reed performance in how clueless we were. Shinnie, Maddison, Gilbey, all hiding and did not want the ball. Morgan & Aneke were practically a two-man team when they came on.
Some of the worst goals I've ever seen us concede
LB has had weeks to work with the squad on a style of play and we've taken a gigantic leap backwards!
Can't believe I stayed up til 5am watching that1 -
I guess in the long run it won't ruin us, got tonked by Scunny last season down here and they went down and we went up. I'll say this much though, 3rd time I've watched us play Burton now and every time, even when we won the other 2 we make them look like world beaters, it's bizarre. Just noticed we have only played them 4 times ever.
Shocking all over the pitch, a right back and a defensive mid at centre back when we have a player on the bench who has proven he is a top end league 1 centre back, bonkers.
Every player looked poor bar Albie and Chuks. I don't normally get angry watching Charlton but everytime we went backwards or did a side pass I couldn't help but get a bit annoyed
Ah well on to the next1 -
also what has Bowyer got against wide midfielders or wingers? Maatsen and Matthews had no support when going forward (apart from when Morgan came on) - Maddison is a total waste of space and I don't know who ws supposed to be on the left side of midfield as there was never anyone there1
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I'd LIKE to forget it, but sometimes these horror shows are hard to forget. (I'm still haunted by the home defeat to Southport in the 70s). Burton played well and would argue that they pressed us into making those awful mistakes - but they were awful mistakes. Could have finished 4-4, mind.aliwibble said:A match to forget really, apart from an excellent goal from Chuks. Lots of individual errors, and the defence as a unit having an absolute mare, so we end up losing 4-2.Your thoughts?
A reminder, I guess, why we need proper centre halves. But more generally a game plan to deal with the pressing game0 -
PWR but wondering how many watching live said we had to bring on Albie after half time ?
The game was crying out for his energy and ability to pick a telling pass.
Burton thoroughly deserved the 3 points though.
Mr F said they came out winners by having the better attitude but that doesn't give credit to their lads who ran and ran, albeit they had 12 men most of the time as did the Gills.
I KNOW Bow has to rotate the squad with Sat/Tues games coming thick and fast but for gawd's sake, give Maddison a run out with the U23s to get him sharper....
Pretty disappointed, to say the least but when I read the overly optimistic posts on the prediction thread, I wondered whether they might come back to bite us on the bum, as per Saturday's game.
Need to regroup and give a few of them a kick up the backside before they face the Tractor Boys.
1 point out of a possible 9 would be my worst nightmeire.3 -
Chris Powell had Dagenham and Bowyer has Burton. Lucky that was behind close doors as would have got plenty of abuse for that showing.
Everything felt off from the start. Why bring Pearce and Deji along if they aren’t going to be used. Need to spark some motivation and creativity into that side ASAP.
Rubbish.3 -
Purrington, who has been very steady of late, aye, steady enough to get sent off in the first half.ct_addick said:I’d take a steady eddy Purrington performance over Maatsen tonight. Fcuking Bambi on ice
Maatsen has been stellar until tonight. I'd have hoped he'd have built up enough credit to dodge the reactionary snipers but clearly not5 -
There are pub teams a man down that would probably give Maddison a miss on that showing.
To a man though, we were about as sharp as a blunt pencil.
Needless fails,sloppy passing. God only knows how many injuries we've picked up after that shoddy display.
Will listen with interest as to what Bowyer puts it down to.0
