**MATCH OFF**Charlton v Bristol Rovers | Tue 15 Dec | Match Preview, Predictions, News & Views

Briston_Addick

ForeverAddickted said:

Knowing the EFL it will be us who get the docked points 

Knowing the Football League they'll transfer points from us to Chef Wendy.

killerandflash

There seems to be a slight conflict between the football specific procedures, with access to testing that the rest of us can't get, and the government self isolation rules. It was confusing how Chuks could test positive without the whole squad needing to self isolate, ditto the situation where Deji needing to self isolate, despite not having the virus (and how were the rest of the squad not in close contact with Levitt?)

MattF

killerandflash said:

There seems to be a slight conflict between the football specific procedures, with access to testing that the rest of us can't get, and the government self isolation rules. It was confusing how Chuks could test positive without the whole squad needing to self isolate, ditto the situation where Deji needing to self isolate, despite not having the virus (and how were the rest of the squad not in close contact with Levitt?)

I assumed (or maybe it was confirmed can't remember) that the players had stayed in a hotel for Burton and Oshilaja had shared a room with Levitt

killerandflash

MattF said:

killerandflash said:

There seems to be a slight conflict between the football specific procedures, with access to testing that the rest of us can't get, and the government self isolation rules. It was confusing how Chuks could test positive without the whole squad needing to self isolate, ditto the situation where Deji needing to self isolate, despite not having the virus (and how were the rest of the squad not in close contact with Levitt?)

I assumed (or maybe it was confirmed can't remember) that the players had stayed in a hotel for Burton and Oshilaja had shared a room with Levitt

But then Deji was on the bench for the Burton game, so when did Levitt feel unwell as he wasn't in the match squad for that game?

MattF

killerandflash said:

MattF said:

killerandflash said:

There seems to be a slight conflict between the football specific procedures, with access to testing that the rest of us can't get, and the government self isolation rules. It was confusing how Chuks could test positive without the whole squad needing to self isolate, ditto the situation where Deji needing to self isolate, despite not having the virus (and how were the rest of the squad not in close contact with Levitt?)

I assumed (or maybe it was confirmed can't remember) that the players had stayed in a hotel for Burton and Oshilaja had shared a room with Levitt

But then Deji was on the bench for the Burton game, so when did Levitt feel unwell as he wasn't in the match squad for that game?

From the SLP at the time ' “He was away with us but he was ill and got sent home,” said Charlton manager Lee Bowyer. “He had a bit of a temperature and when someone has that now then they get sent home.'

Not really sure what that means in terms of when he would've come into close contact with anyone as surely more than one person would've ended up isolating if they'd already travelled

allez les addicks

Presume it reflects the dressing room, sitting on alternate spaces, you’d still come into ‘close contact’ with at least 1 other teammate who is within 6 feet of you for over 15 minutes (the definition of ‘close contact’). Arguably playing they don’t come into close contact with anyone based on the time element

mendonca

How is the league table looking on a points per game basis?

Covered_End_Lad

mendonca said:

How is the league table looking on a points per game basis?

I think we would be 3rd on PPG

Sage

Covered_End_Lad said:

mendonca said:

How is the league table looking on a points per game basis?

I think we would be 3rd on PPG

We would be 5th.

Sage

PragueAddick said:

Sage said:

The only other way is that they had already travelled. Then they got the results from their last test when they’re in London, and because they’ve all been together, the players can’t play so down to 16 in the squad. Then others have to self isolate so in theory, may not have had enough to play the game.

So is it standard that they are all tested befor each game? If so that needs to be done so that results come back at least 24 hours before each game, not lesst to avoid the situation you’ve described. 

Yes, a lot depends on the testing days, but much of the time the results will come back within 24 hours of a match.

West Ham, for example, had got their results back around an hour and a half before kick-off a couple
of months ago. That’s when Moyes and others had to be sent home.

The testing and procedure of it all needs to be clearer and more straightforward. They have more access to testing than anyone, so why can’t they get results quicker?

mendonca

So if we lost, we would not be in the top 6 in a PPG league table. Still, I think after scoring 5, we would have been buzzing but with Charlton, you just do not know.

killerandflash

Sage said:

PragueAddick said:

Sage said:

The only other way is that they had already travelled. Then they got the results from their last test when they’re in London, and because they’ve all been together, the players can’t play so down to 16 in the squad. Then others have to self isolate so in theory, may not have had enough to play the game.

So is it standard that they are all tested befor each game? If so that needs to be done so that results come back at least 24 hours before each game, not lesst to avoid the situation you’ve described. 

Yes, a lot depends on the testing days, but much of the time the results will come back within 24 hours of a match.

West Ham, for example, had got their results back around an hour and a half before kick-off a couple
of months ago. That’s when Moyes and others had to be sent home.

The testing and procedure of it all needs to be clearer and more straightforward. They have more access to testing than anyone, so why can’t they get results quicker?

I assume PL clubs have their own regular precautionary testing, something EFL clubs don't have

killerandflash

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/dec/15/covid-hit-sunderland-upset-with-efl-over-lack-of-clarity-on-playing-options

It'll be interesting if Sunderland play on Saturday. The Rovers case does sound quite genuine, the training ground will be shut until Christmas Eve

ForeverAddickted

killerandflash said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/dec/15/covid-hit-sunderland-upset-with-efl-over-lack-of-clarity-on-playing-options

It'll be interesting if Sunderland play on Saturday. The Rovers case does sound quite genuine, the training ground will be shut until Christmas Eve

I dont get why it took until Tuesday that the problem was suddenly there for Rovers

As mentioned in the article; Tisdale made absolutely no mention of it in his press conference on Monday

eastterrace6168

killerandflash said:

Sage said:

PragueAddick said:

Sage said:

The only other way is that they had already travelled. Then they got the results from their last test when they’re in London, and because they’ve all been together, the players can’t play so down to 16 in the squad. Then others have to self isolate so in theory, may not have had enough to play the game.

So is it standard that they are all tested befor each game? If so that needs to be done so that results come back at least 24 hours before each game, not lesst to avoid the situation you’ve described. 

Yes, a lot depends on the testing days, but much of the time the results will come back within 24 hours of a match.

West Ham, for example, had got their results back around an hour and a half before kick-off a couple
of months ago. That’s when Moyes and others had to be sent home.

The testing and procedure of it all needs to be clearer and more straightforward. They have more access to testing than anyone, so why can’t they get results quicker?

I assume PL clubs have their own regular precautionary testing, something EFL clubs don't have

So as usual, everything comes down to us and them, and the we are considerably
richer than you scenario, pisses me off all this who can pay and who can't stuff.

Dansk_Red

Sunderland have postponed their next 3 games

MuttleyCAFC

Wimbledon may be a bit worried as well as any team playing them. It might be safer if their next game was postponed too whilst the situation is monitored. 

Wheresmeticket

eastterrace6168 said:

killerandflash said:

Sage said:

PragueAddick said:

Sage said:

The only other way is that they had already travelled. Then they got the results from their last test when they’re in London, and because they’ve all been together, the players can’t play so down to 16 in the squad. Then others have to self isolate so in theory, may not have had enough to play the game.

So is it standard that they are all tested befor each game? If so that needs to be done so that results come back at least 24 hours before each game, not lesst to avoid the situation you’ve described. 

Yes, a lot depends on the testing days, but much of the time the results will come back within 24 hours of a match.

West Ham, for example, had got their results back around an hour and a half before kick-off a couple
of months ago. That’s when Moyes and others had to be sent home.

The testing and procedure of it all needs to be clearer and more straightforward. They have more access to testing than anyone, so why can’t they get results quicker?

I assume PL clubs have their own regular precautionary testing, something EFL clubs don't have

So as usual, everything comes down to us and them, and the we are considerably
richer than you scenario, pisses me off all this who can pay and who can't stuff.

As in football so in life

eastterrace6168

Wheresmeticket? said:

eastterrace6168 said:

killerandflash said:

Sage said:

PragueAddick said:

Sage said:

The only other way is that they had already travelled. Then they got the results from their last test when they’re in London, and because they’ve all been together, the players can’t play so down to 16 in the squad. Then others have to self isolate so in theory, may not have had enough to play the game.

So is it standard that they are all tested befor each game? If so that needs to be done so that results come back at least 24 hours before each game, not lesst to avoid the situation you’ve described. 

Yes, a lot depends on the testing days, but much of the time the results will come back within 24 hours of a match.

West Ham, for example, had got their results back around an hour and a half before kick-off a couple
of months ago. That’s when Moyes and others had to be sent home.

The testing and procedure of it all needs to be clearer and more straightforward. They have more access to testing than anyone, so why can’t they get results quicker?

I assume PL clubs have their own regular precautionary testing, something EFL clubs don't have

So as usual, everything comes down to us and them, and the we are considerably
richer than you scenario, pisses me off all this who can pay and who can't stuff.

As in football so in life

Very  philosophical 

MStuartPerm

Is Plymouth definitely behind closed doors? 

I am 99% certain it is but I have gotten so confused as to what we can and can’t do and when things will be changing or not changing. 

ForeverAddickted

MStuartPerm said:

Is Plymouth definitely behind closed doors? 

I am 99% certain it is but I have gotten so confused as to what we can and can’t do and when things will be changing or not changing. 

Imagine it will be as London will still be in Tier Three by then

The five days of Christmas allowance is for families to meet up etc. not to attend sporting events

killerandflash

Peterborough has moved to Tier 3, so no home fans for when we play there either

MStuartPerm

ForeverAddickted said:

MStuartPerm said:

Is Plymouth definitely behind closed doors? 

I am 99% certain it is but I have gotten so confused as to what we can and can’t do and when things will be changing or not changing. 

Imagine it will be as London will still be in Tier Three by then

The five days of Christmas allowance is for families to meet up etc. not to attend sporting events

Thanks, if London is still in Tier3 then it’s behind closed doors. 

golfaddick

Was just musing how some teams now have a slight advantage being in tier 2 & having fans into the ground to the majority of teams being in tier 3. Just checking League 1 & I think only 6 teams are in tier 2; Swindon being one of them. So we go there on Saturday & they have 2k cheering them on, but when we entertain Plymouth a week later we can't have that home "advantage" anymore. 

Level playing field......not anymore it is.

ForeverAddickted

golfaddick said:

Was just musing how some teams now have a slight advantage being in tier 2 & having fans into the ground to the majority of teams being in tier 3. Just checking League 1 & I think only 6 teams are in tier 2; Swindon being one of them. So we go there on Saturday & they have 2k cheering them on, but when we entertain Plymouth a week later we can't have that home "advantage" anymore. 

Level playing field......not anymore it is.

Could argue that wasnt the case when Charlton were in T2 though and Gillingham in T3 for example...

It made me smile the other day when Frank Lampard was saying that T3 fans should be allowed to attend games, what with Chelsea now in a T3 area

Funnily he didnt seem too bothered about it before then did he?

MuttleyCAFC

It is what it is.

ct_addick

What's the deal with masks in London. ? Saw pictures of Regent Street packed and hardly anyone wearing masks. Is it not mandated? It is over here in Massachusetts

Redrobo

golfaddick said:

Was just musing how some teams now have a slight advantage being in tier 2 & having fans into the ground to the majority of teams being in tier 3. Just checking League 1 & I think only 6 teams are in tier 2; Swindon being one of them. So we go there on Saturday & they have 2k cheering them on, but when we entertain Plymouth a week later we can't have that home "advantage" anymore. 

Level playing field......not anymore it is.

Can we not tape the booing and play it at half time?

soapy_jones

ct_addick said:

What's the deal with masks in London. ? Saw pictures of Regent Street packed and hardly anyone wearing masks. Is it not mandated? It is over here in Massachusetts

London is a cosmopolitan international city of morons don't you know?

grumpyaddick

Would still like to see the pass map for this fixture