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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton v Accrington | Fri 8 Jan 2021
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What on earth are you talking about, Ben Watson turned down a new contract at forest!Bailey said:Maddison is a waster, blaming Bowyer for naming and shaming is shocking. He is dead right about some of those players, the kids like Maatsen Morgan you can pass off as a learning curve but time and time again senior professionals like Williams, Maddison and now Pearce have let him down. Pearce knows he's playing next game so instead of wacking the ball off for a corner he tries a chancy header. Bowyer is paying the price for injuries, suspensions and having to cobble together a side with a bunch of players nobody else wanted, who are simply looking for a pay cheque.1 -
We have a team of players who look the part but don't have any substance.JFC was ok.Does gilbey offer anything?1
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Literally WTF did I just watch....really I mean WTF was it...
(just got back home off me shift,left at final whistle unfortunately,but hence the “just”)0 -
Is that you Lee?Bailey said:Take no notice 1968, most of the posters on here believe that only they have a divine right to an opinion, write what you want and take pleasure in the fact that you are annoying the soppy little pratts.4 -
Innis, Gilbey and Washington also had contracts at other clubs. They weren't unemployed.CAFCsayer said:
What on earth are you talking about, Ben Watson turned down a new contract at forest!Bailey said:Maddison is a waster, blaming Bowyer for naming and shaming is shocking. He is dead right about some of those players, the kids like Maatsen Morgan you can pass off as a learning curve but time and time again senior professionals like Williams, Maddison and now Pearce have let him down. Pearce knows he's playing next game so instead of wacking the ball off for a corner he tries a chancy header. Bowyer is paying the price for injuries, suspensions and having to cobble together a side with a bunch of players nobody else wanted, who are simply looking for a pay cheque.1 -
Not surprised when they are getting publicly c***ed off by the manager every week. Anyone who hasn't been is probably to scared of making a mistake to express themself on the pitchfloydroadfaithfull said:None of our players want to stand up and be counted its that simple8 -
Matteson was poorCharltonparklane said:Wasnt sure who he was calling out in first interview about jumping out of tackles, I was adament it was Maatsen as in my opinion hes been doing it for weeks.1 -
Who was blaming Ben Watson ? I think he's put in a shift all season, I am pointing the finger at Maddison and Williams. Nobody wanted them and they are not playing for the shirt, as for Pearce, he knows he is playing next game, same as Gilbey.3
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I would remove LB and promote Jackson. He knows the squad and this league. I honestly don’t believe he can support what’s going. Of course your allowed your opinion. My reference to the Trump mob was that no matter how bad it gets, people will for whatever reason follow somebody over the edge of the cliff. An right now LB blaming players for everything, is similar to Trump, not accepting he lost.1968CAFC said:
Well as your obviously think you are right andRaplhMilne said:
You are a member of a small and diminishing group of BOWYER apologists. Your like the Trump mob...... totally brainwashed that he is the only man for the job.1968CAFC said:
Utter Bollocks !!se9addick said:I’m starting to think Bowyer was the right man at a bad time, but he isn’t the right man at this time.
Look at all our injuries and our bloody defence 😂😂😂😂
Am not allowed my opinion,
As for me being like the “ Trump” Mob😂😂😂
What the fuck that means god knows.
So Mr expert who would you have as our Next
Manager ??????
And if our two centre backs come back from injuries when this “ new manager” comes in,
And we start winning etc will it be down to him 😂0 -
i just hope TS puts bowyer out of his misery asap - that is all2
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The point is Bowyer has to take responsibility for that shit show.orpingtonRED said:
Sadly I think you are right.Briston_Addick said:I have never been part of the "Bowyer Out" brigade, I've been a more cautious member of @ForeverAddickted's group.
However, after this evenings post-match interview I think the manager has had enough.
He hasn't just thrown a player or two under the bus, he's put on full Rambo outfit, lobbed a couple of smoke grenades into the dressing room and started spraying bullets everywhere.
There can't be a player left in that squad who'd want to run through brick walls for the boss.
It's a sad day for the Charlton Athletic Football Club.
Welcome to Danish Dan the next manager of Charlton some no mark that fans can get behind for a year.
Then perhaps genuine fans would be more willing to draw a line under it and allow Bowyer to do what he needs to do behind closed doors.
I think it is very poor management to single out individual players publicly like he has done.
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Mate, sorry but your talking absolute bollocks.Bailey said:Who was blaming Ben Watson ? I think he's put in a shift all season, I am pointing the finger at Maddison and Williams. Nobody wanted them and they are not playing for the shirt, as for Pearce, he knows he is playing next game, same as Gilbey.7 -
We had six wins on the trot with Innis and Famewo playing. It's no surprise that results have worsened since then. I've always said as soon as they're back we will improve immeasurably, and this will be the case. What is going on in the meantime is, however, of great concern.Bailey said:Take no notice 1968, most of the posters on here believe that only they have a divine right to an opinion, write what you want and take pleasure in the fact that you are annoying the soppy little pratts.2 -
A big BLAME culture has erupted at our Club now. This needs fixing. If performances don't improve, we either sack every unperforming player or the man who is meant to gel them together into a team.
I've never heard so much reference to training in post match interviews than us this season.
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I think bows is fed up, he’s gone from a team that fought to a bunch of charlatans0
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Sandgaards Twitter is eerily quiet1
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I know I'll be slated if I talk about JS (at least I'll earn some lols), but from what I've read in other Charlton related biographies, as well as the books and articles he wrote, he totally believed that team spirit and morale was the way to get the best out of the players that he could afford to buy, (who often weren't world beaters).
He never berated players publicly. He never shouted at them. If he was unhappy with his players he would invite them to his office for a chat, ask them why they thought it wasn't working for them, and make suggestions of ways they could improve.
He also had a pretty fixed system and changed the team as little as possible. Pretty straightforward stuff, but it made the club one of the best in the country for a decent period of time.
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He's the manager and he has to take responsibility accordingly- it's his job.2121 said:I think bows is fed up, he’s gone from a team that fought to a bunch of charlatans1 -
As a manager or a supporter , no matter how the result goes, you should be able to rely on the players giving 100%.The oppo gave everything fought for every 50/50 and deservedly won.Agree 100% with Bowyers comments and appreciate his honesty.
The players let him and us down tonight.4 -
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Exactly. Praise the other team, praise their goalkeeper, praise your own teams first half performance - front up and say you're the manager and its down to you to get the best out of the players and turn this slide in form around.mid_life_crisis said:
The point is Bowyer has to take responsibility for that shit show.orpingtonRED said:
Sadly I think you are right.Briston_Addick said:I have never been part of the "Bowyer Out" brigade, I've been a more cautious member of @ForeverAddickted's group.
However, after this evenings post-match interview I think the manager has had enough.
He hasn't just thrown a player or two under the bus, he's put on full Rambo outfit, lobbed a couple of smoke grenades into the dressing room and started spraying bullets everywhere.
There can't be a player left in that squad who'd want to run through brick walls for the boss.
It's a sad day for the Charlton Athletic Football Club.
Welcome to Danish Dan the next manager of Charlton some no mark that fans can get behind for a year.
Then perhaps genuine fans would be more willing to draw a line under it and allow Bowyer to do what he needs to do behind closed doors.
I think it is very poor management to single out individual players publicly like he has done.
And then bollock them all you like on the training ground if that's what you think will get them performing better. Because your current tactic of calling players out in post match interviews is not working at all.
Also never publicly say you don't care if a player is seriously injured or not. That's nasty - and something I thought was not part of Bowyer anymore.
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RaplhMilne said:
I would remove LB and promote Jackson. He knows the squad and this league. I honestly don’t believe he can support what’s going. Of course your allowed your opinion. My reference to the Trump mob was that no matter how bad it gets, people will for whatever reason follow somebody over the edge of the cliff. An right now LB blaming players for everything, is similar to Trump, not accepting he lost.1968CAFC said:
Well as your obviously think you are right andRaplhMilne said:
You are a member of a small and diminishing group of BOWYER apologists. Your like the Trump mob...... totally brainwashed that he is the only man for the job.1968CAFC said:
Utter Bollocks !!se9addick said:I’m starting to think Bowyer was the right man at a bad time, but he isn’t the right man at this time.
Look at all our injuries and our bloody defence 😂😂😂😂
Am not allowed my opinion,
As for me being like the “ Trump” Mob😂😂😂
What the fuck that means god knows.
So Mr expert who would you have as our Next
Manager ??????
And if our two centre backs come back from injuries when this “ new manager” comes in,
And we start winning etc will it be down to him 😂
Using Trump in an argument is the new Godwin's law.2 -
Worrying performances for me tonight from players who have, can, and should play better.
Gilbey again absolute toilet but gets 90mins. He hides, plays safe balls sideways the whole game, just 'passes the buck'
Im one of Morgans biggest fans but he looked lost tonight, almost disinterested for a player who always wants the ball.
Pearce, still thinks wrestling players is an art.
Maatsen, so impressed to start with but just looks to be trying to avoid injury if you ask me recently.
Gunter 99 International caps but gets turned inside out by a league one winger every week.
Honestly there is no way back for me this season with the players we have, course I'll still watch every game just like the past 40 years but there has to be some (very) drastic changes this season for us to make top 6.
Positive - Deji played really well for me13 -
Why do you type1968CAFC said:
Anyone who watched the game and listened toCAFCsayer said:
Is that actually a quote, if so I'm in the Bowyer out brigade... You can't handle players like thatScoham said:
Bowyer when he gave his honest interview
And heard what he said correctly would not twist
His words out of context, if they understood what
He actually said.
Maddison was shit tonight and was a poor
Substitution.
so few words
on each
line?
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Says the man, who the resorts to calling people childish names......Bailey said:Take no notice 1968, most of the posters on here believe that only they have a divine right to an opinion, write what you want and take pleasure in the fact that you are annoying the soppy little pratts.
unfortunately the fallout from the demise of our team under LB are some of the worst divisions ever seen in our fan base. An petty name calling and arguments. We are living in a depressing troubled time (not LB,s fault) but our team imploding in front of our eyes every week, is adding to this agony, and I’m sure to the depression of some of our fans.2 -
Bowyer needs to behave like a manager and not like a fan sounding off down the pub.billysboots said:As a manager or a supporter , no matter how the result goes, you should be able to rely on the players giving 100%.The oppo gave everything fought for every 50/50 and deservedly won.Agree 100% with Bowyers comments and appreciate his honesty.
The players let him and us down tonight.3 -
But it begs the question, why don’t they want to play for him? Why are they not putting in the effort. Something is wrong...billysboots said:As a manager or a supporter , no matter how the result goes, you should be able to rely on the players giving 100%.The oppo gave everything fought for every 50/50 and deservedly won.Agree 100% with Bowyers comments and appreciate his honesty.
The players let him and us down tonight.2 -
MattF said:
I thought the same thing. Williams was a pale comparison to Millar and Maddison seemed off his game. In fact he managed to injure himself somehow and went through this whole distraught routine but it made me wonder if he just didn't want to be out there.
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So the solution is to wait 2/3 months for two players to come back. I seem to remember we would not get relegated when Taylor was fit. “That went well”up_the_valley said:
We had six wins on the trot with Innis and Famewo playing. It's no surprise that results have worsened since then. I've always said as soon as they're back we will improve immeasurably, and this will be the case. What is going on in the meantime is however, of great concern.Bailey said:Take no notice 1968, most of the posters on here believe that only they have a divine right to an opinion, write what you want and take pleasure in the fact that you are annoying the soppy little pratts.5 -
he rolled his ankle, didnt look great tbhMajor said:MattF said:
I thought the same thing. Williams was a pale comparison to Millar and Maddison seemed off his game. In fact he managed to injure himself somehow and went through this whole distraught routine but it made me wonder if he just didn't want to be out there.1
