I think this thread is ridiculous and should be closed....football fans are so fickle, they expect loyalty by favourite players and get outraged when they get offered lucrative contracts, yet show no loyalty whatsoever when a few results dont go our way.
Get real and get behind the team....just shows how distracted everyone was by the Duchatelet era......Bowyer will turn it around, he stood by us when he could have moved on....some of you should hold your heads in shame.
I think this thread is ridiculous and should be closed....football fans are so fickle, they expect loyalty by favourite players and get outraged when they get offered lucrative contracts, yet show no loyalty whatsoever when a few results dont go our way.
Get real and get behind the team....just shows how distracted everyone was by the Duchatelet era......Bowyer will turn it around, he stood by us when he could have moved on....some of you should hold your heads in shame.
Or alternatively maybe people willing to put the well-being of a football club and the people employed by it behind that of one manager cos he’s pwoper Charlton...... should hold their heads in shame?
If Bowyer did get the chop, do we think that he would look for another football manager job ... or would he simply spend his time fishing? Remember that he kind of stumbled into football management.
I think the second option is more likely ... much more likely ... and, if so, is that the man who should be charged with getting us out of League 1 and beyond?
He applied for the job and lost out to Robinson. It’s in one of the SLP pieces.
sorry to burst this particular bubble
My recollection is that he did a month's coaching of the kids at Watford at Harry Kewell's request followed by this:
Former Leeds United, Newcastle United and England midfielder Lee Bowyer said it was the realisation he "couldn't just sit around watching telly" that persuaded him to buy two fishing lakes as a retirement project.
After an 18-year career, which included winning the League Cup with Birmingham City in 2011, his self-professed "getaway" has become an important part of his life.
Situated in north-western France, his lakes welcome groups of holidaying anglers for a week at a time.
"My wife does the bookings because I'm no good on computers," he said.
"At times it is 10 o'clock at night and people ring up but that's all part of the business.
"It is no hardship because you are just trying to help people catch fish and enjoy their holiday."
As well as jetting between the UK and France, 40-year-old Bowyer is also helping out at his first club, Charlton Athletic, in a coaching role.
Not exactly the career path of a dynamic, focussed manager who will take us into Europe, is it?
I don't understand what point you're trying to make. The bloke likes fishing, great. In addition to his fishing lakes, he was working on his coaching badges as mentioned in the link I posted above.
"The 39-year-old called time on his playing career in 2012 after successful spells with the likes of Charlton, Leeds, West Ham and Newcastle, as well as a solitary England cap.
Having recently completed his coaching qualifications, Bowyer is now targeting a return to the game.
And he has expressed a desire to take charge of Charlton, the club where his career began and who are currently searching for their eighth manager in three years under owner Roland Duchatelet."
Doesn't sound like a bloke who "kind of stumbled into football management" as you've attempted to portray. You're welcome to keep your bubble intact as long as you don't let reality burst it.
I’m not going to hold my head in shame (or hang it even) for having an opinion that I believe is right for the football club I love. If I’m wrong I’ll gladly put my hands up.
The thread went into meltdown on Saturday, not because of the result but because of the atrocious performance
Obviously we all wanted the win, but if we had played well and been really deserved the win, then that would have been a good comeback after the Gillingham performance
I think it shows how much support Bowyer has lost when we're playing the team rock bottom of the league tonight & a lot of fans are expecting not to win and/or a poor performance. That's how deflated everyone feels.
If that doesn't show that everyone needs a lift & a change is needed, I don't know what does!!
I don't understand what point you're trying to make. The bloke likes fishing, great. In addition to his fishing lakes, he was working on his coaching badges as mentioned in the link I posted above.
"The 39-year-old called time on his playing career in 2012 after successful spells with the likes of Charlton, Leeds, West Ham and Newcastle, as well as a solitary England cap.
Having recently completed his coaching qualifications, Bowyer is now targeting a return to the game.
And he has expressed a desire to take charge of Charlton, the club where his career began and who are currently searching for their eighth manager in three years under owner Roland Duchatelet."
Doesn't sound like a bloke who "kind of stumbled into football management" as you've attempted to portray. You're welcome to keep your bubble intact as long as you don't let reality burst it.
Q. Why has he lost his Mojo ? A. He appears tired and confused and has lost confidence in his self and the players.
Q. What should Thomas Sandgaard do to improve the situation ? A. He would prefer to wait to the end of the season and see if we finish Top 6.
Q. What will happen to Lee Bowyer if we lose to bottom team Burton tonight ? A. He will be spending more time with his fish.
Q. Was the quality at the Fleetwood match really that poor ? A. Yes. Blow football was grim. It was so bad that in the houses around the pitch, the curtains were closed.
Q. Should Muttley be given the Job as he has a good CV ? A. No, he had a good keeper who was his son. That's Nepotism.
Q. Should Soapboxsam get the Cafc Job as he has a good CV ? A. No, his son scored 32 goals plus winning goals in a semi final and final one season. That's Nepotism.
Q. Should James Seed get the Job ? A. No, his grandad was a Cafc legend and it would be Nepotism.
Q. Will you watch tonight ? A. Yes, I'm Charlton till I die.
Totally agree. I would be a bigger disaster as a Charlton manager than Bowyer is at the moment. I would be a terrible President of the USA, but am able to see that Trump was bad. Very Bad! I would be the worst actor in history, but am able to judge a good acting performance from a bad one.
Not you Soapbox, but the weakest argument against some of the points criticising the manager is the person making the point couldn't do their job. I watch the voice and can usually tell the great singers from the so so ones. But the so so ones can sing infinitely better than me.
so Talkshite says Bowyer would be keen on the Charlton Athletic job and next thing you say he got turned down in favour of Karl Robinson. Yet we don't even know if he applied for the job. Can't say it vindicates you at all.
so Talkshite says Bowyer would be keen on the Charlton Athletic job and next thing you say he got turned down in favour of Karl Robinson. Yet we don't even know if he applied for the job. Can't say it vindicates you at all.
I think it shows I’m not right but not completely wrong
I think this thread is ridiculous and should be closed....football fans are so fickle, they expect loyalty by favourite players and get outraged when they get offered lucrative contracts, yet show no loyalty whatsoever when a few results dont go our way.
Get real and get behind the team....just shows how distracted everyone was by the Duchatelet era......Bowyer will turn it around, he stood by us when he could have moved on....some of you should hold your heads in shame.
I think this thread is ridiculous and should be closed....football fans are so fickle, they expect loyalty by favourite players and get outraged when they get offered lucrative contracts, yet show no loyalty whatsoever when a few results dont go our way.
Get real and get behind the team....just shows how distracted everyone was by the Duchatelet era......Bowyer will turn it around, he stood by us when he could have moved on....some of you should hold your heads in shame.
Close this thread because I don't like it.
Bloody people having opinions and expressing them, on a football forum, shameful behaviour.
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Makes about as much sense as your suggestion.
Former Leeds United, Newcastle United and England midfielder Lee Bowyer said it was the realisation he "couldn't just sit around watching telly" that persuaded him to buy two fishing lakes as a retirement project.
After an 18-year career, which included winning the League Cup with Birmingham City in 2011, his self-professed "getaway" has become an important part of his life.
Situated in north-western France, his lakes welcome groups of holidaying anglers for a week at a time.
"My wife does the bookings because I'm no good on computers," he said.
"At times it is 10 o'clock at night and people ring up but that's all part of the business.
"It is no hardship because you are just trying to help people catch fish and enjoy their holiday."
As well as jetting between the UK and France, 40-year-old Bowyer is also helping out at his first club, Charlton Athletic, in a coaching role.
Not exactly the career path of a dynamic, focussed manager who will take us into Europe, is it?
Bubble intact, I think.
"The 39-year-old called time on his playing career in 2012 after successful spells with the likes of Charlton, Leeds, West Ham and Newcastle, as well as a solitary England cap.
Having recently completed his coaching qualifications, Bowyer is now targeting a return to the game.
And he has expressed a desire to take charge of Charlton, the club where his career began and who are currently searching for their eighth manager in three years under owner Roland Duchatelet."
Doesn't sound like a bloke who "kind of stumbled into football management" as you've attempted to portray. You're welcome to keep your bubble intact as long as you don't let reality burst it.
Beating the mighty Burton Albion will be akin to Jose's Inter beating Pep's Barcelona with 10 men.
All who doubted Lord Bowyer will be mocked after the greatest night at the Valley in years.
Obviously we all wanted the win, but if we had played well and been really deserved the win, then that would have been a good comeback after the Gillingham performance
If that doesn't show that everyone needs a lift & a change is needed, I don't know what does!!
That's some top draw AI/Algorithms right there.
Unless my lap top can smell.
First 30 seconds.
My point ... Well .. he kind of stumbled into football management, didn't he? No 'attempt to portray' ... just the reality.
And I don't think it's the mark of someone who Sandgaard would trust to deliver his ambitious vision.
Let's leave it there.
Q. Has Bowyer lost it ?
A. He has lost his mojo.
Q. Why has he lost his Mojo ?
A. He appears tired and confused and has lost confidence in his self and the players.
Q. What should Thomas Sandgaard do to improve the situation ?
A. He would prefer to wait to the end of the season and see if we finish Top 6.
Q. What will happen to Lee Bowyer if we lose to bottom team Burton tonight ?
A. He will be spending more time with his fish.
Q. Was the quality at the Fleetwood match really that poor ?
A. Yes. Blow football was grim. It was so bad that in the houses around the pitch, the curtains were closed.
Q. Should Muttley be given the Job as he has a good CV ?
A. No, he had a good keeper who was his son. That's Nepotism.
Q. Should Soapboxsam get the Cafc Job as he has a good CV ?
A. No, his son scored 32 goals plus winning goals in a semi final and final one season.
That's Nepotism.
Q. Should James Seed get the Job ?
A. No, his grandad was a Cafc legend and it would be Nepotism.
Q. Will you watch tonight ?
A. Yes, I'm Charlton till I die.
Thank you Sam.
Not you Soapbox, but the weakest argument against some of the points criticising the manager is the person making the point couldn't do their job. I watch the voice and can usually tell the great singers from the so so ones. But the so so ones can sing infinitely better than me.
It's a bit catch 22 because if he wins does it just delay the inevitable anyway?
We’re about two third of the way through the season so 1.75 ppg from here on will get us to the magic number. 29 points from the last 17 games.