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Peterborough v Charlton Athletic | Tue 19 Jan | 6.30pm KO | Match Preview, Predictions, News & Views

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  • I love Pearce, he’s been great for us, but I really don’t think he should be starting these days. Gunter and/or Pratley with Oshilaja is a better combination until Famewo is ready. 
  • se9addick said:
    I love Pearce, he’s been great for us, but I really don’t think he should be starting these days. Gunter and/or Pratley with Oshilaja is a better combination until Famewo is ready. 
    It's saying something that people would prefer to see Pratley at CB than pearce!
  • We can't treat every match the same but where possible we need to have some consistency of selection. We have seen JFC getting a run has improved his game and when players are playing consistently with each other they do better. Of course Morgan can't play but Williams and JFC should be set in stone.
  • edited January 2021
    agim said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    agim said:
    Valley11 said:
    agim said:
    agim said:
    se9addick said:
    agim said:
    I'm worried about this one. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 5-3-2 or 5-4-1 formation because I don't think our defence with the injuries etc is capable of handling their front three. Let's not sugar cost the clean sheet on Saturday as Bristol Rovers are a poor poor team! 
    Aneke needs a rest otherwise we risk him breaking down. Pratley needs to come into the midfield because he's probably our best at breaking things up in there and I can't see Famewo starting after so long out. I'd go with the below:

    Amos
    Matthews Gunter Deji Pearce Maatsen 
    Millar Gilbey Pratley JFC Williams 
    Bogle

    I'd allow Williams a free role in the final third with Maatsen overlapping. Millar needs to get in behind and JFC has to get forward to create. Bogle needs to hold up the ball, win flick ons and bring the others into play. 

    It's either this or go toe to toe with them and probably concede three or four. 
    A team with Pearce, Gilbey and Bogle starting would upset me deeply. 
    I've actually written a 12 man team there!
    It was early & I was tired LOL. Take Gilbey out of the midfield as I feel Pratley needs to be in there and JFC is playing well. Aneke will need a rest after his game load the past week & I doubt Schwartz is ready to start after hardly any game time this season. That leaves Bogle & Washington and I feel this is the sort of game where Bogles physicality may help us. We have a good little run of Bogle starting then Aneke scoring off the bench. For me Pearce starts ahead of Famewo purley because he's been out for so long. 
    Bogle playing as a loan striker is exactly what Peterborough will be praying for. 
    It's all a matter of opinions. I think if we play the same way we did on Saturday we will get beat as we aren't great defensively at the moment. Posh play three at the back according to the review, my plan would be to stifle their attack in numbers hence the 5 man defence and attack on the break with Bogle holding up and Millar, Williams, JFC supporting with overlaps from the wingbacks. Millar is the key to this with his defensive duties being minimum and him being the man with his pace to drive us forward. 

    I feel if we go toe to toe and play an open attacking game they will pick us apart.  
    I’d play the same formation as Rovers. Why change it AGAIN?!

    This season has been characterised by total inconsistency. For once we found a forumla that brought a clean sheet and a goal. 

    I’d go with the same set up again. We’re playing Peterborough not Real Madrid. 
    I think it would be pretty nieve to treat each game/team as the same. Plus we aren't actually that good this season so we have to line up accordingly. In our promotion season the team pretty much picked itself because we were out playing teams but even then LB would switch to a back five at times 
    There is nieve and there is showing teams far to much respect.

    We aren't actually that good?  Can you please tell which players aren't good?  There are a number of players that aren't performing but that's different.

    This squad, has far more depth and experience than the one 2 years ago.  Admittedly that one had 2 or 3 players better than what we have now, but some like Bielik we are judging on hindsight. 

    The likes of Reeves, Marshall, Lapslie, Parker, Ajose, Ward, Solly and Hackett-Fairchild all played a significant number of games that season.

    If we play well, with round pegs in round holes, we will win far more games than we don't.  Including against the likes of Peterborough. 

    By accident or design Bowyer has final found a combination that works, and can be improved on. 

    Same team, baring injuries or suspension, not 4 or 5 personal or positional changes every game. 


    Too much respect? I think they're better then us in our current state hence why I feel the need for five at the back. 

    I don't see how you can say we've found a combination that works after a 4-4 draw against a average league 1 team and a 1-0 win against a extremely poor league 1 team. 

    I agree Bowyer has tinkered too much this season but again he hasn't had the best of luck with injuries or suspensions. Starting Aneke wouldn't be wise because we know he has fitness problems. Similar with JFC but Aneke seems more fragile. I'm also not writing Pearce off just yet. Yes he's been poor recently but I still think he's finding his feet after injury .
    Bristol Rovers have as many points as Rochdale with 2 games in hand....... 

    We have as many points as Peterborough, yes they have 2 games in hand, but their form is only marginally less erratic than ours.

    In the last 2 and a half hours of football we have played really well, scored 4 and conceded 1.  In reality we could have scored 7 or 8 and the 1 we conceded only goes in 1 time in 10.

    If we play well there isn't a team, or individual players, we should fear.  With the players we have other teams should worry about us. 

    You still haven't said which players "aren't good". 
  • edited January 2021
    I think we have a strong squad. Clearly Posh are one of the stronger squads too. What we struggle a bit against IMO is when teams get bodies behind the ball. Posh are less likely to adopt this approach. I think as long as we have attacking intent on the break throughout and do not sit back and invite them onto us too much (we currently are not strong enough defensively to do this) we have a chance.
  • Wmendonca said:
    se9addick said:
    I love Pearce, he’s been great for us, but I really don’t think he should be starting these days. Gunter and/or Pratley with Oshilaja is a better combination until Famewo is ready. 
    It's saying something that people would prefer to see Pratley at CB than pearce!
    I think Pearce attacks the ball better and is still the better CH than either. Can’t wait for Famewo to be back though.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    agim said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    agim said:
    Valley11 said:
    agim said:
    agim said:
    se9addick said:
    agim said:
    I'm worried about this one. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 5-3-2 or 5-4-1 formation because I don't think our defence with the injuries etc is capable of handling their front three. Let's not sugar cost the clean sheet on Saturday as Bristol Rovers are a poor poor team! 
    Aneke needs a rest otherwise we risk him breaking down. Pratley needs to come into the midfield because he's probably our best at breaking things up in there and I can't see Famewo starting after so long out. I'd go with the below:

    Amos
    Matthews Gunter Deji Pearce Maatsen 
    Millar Gilbey Pratley JFC Williams 
    Bogle

    I'd allow Williams a free role in the final third with Maatsen overlapping. Millar needs to get in behind and JFC has to get forward to create. Bogle needs to hold up the ball, win flick ons and bring the others into play. 

    It's either this or go toe to toe with them and probably concede three or four. 
    A team with Pearce, Gilbey and Bogle starting would upset me deeply. 
    I've actually written a 12 man team there!
    It was early & I was tired LOL. Take Gilbey out of the midfield as I feel Pratley needs to be in there and JFC is playing well. Aneke will need a rest after his game load the past week & I doubt Schwartz is ready to start after hardly any game time this season. That leaves Bogle & Washington and I feel this is the sort of game where Bogles physicality may help us. We have a good little run of Bogle starting then Aneke scoring off the bench. For me Pearce starts ahead of Famewo purley because he's been out for so long. 
    Bogle playing as a loan striker is exactly what Peterborough will be praying for. 
    It's all a matter of opinions. I think if we play the same way we did on Saturday we will get beat as we aren't great defensively at the moment. Posh play three at the back according to the review, my plan would be to stifle their attack in numbers hence the 5 man defence and attack on the break with Bogle holding up and Millar, Williams, JFC supporting with overlaps from the wingbacks. Millar is the key to this with his defensive duties being minimum and him being the man with his pace to drive us forward. 

    I feel if we go toe to toe and play an open attacking game they will pick us apart.  
    I’d play the same formation as Rovers. Why change it AGAIN?!

    This season has been characterised by total inconsistency. For once we found a forumla that brought a clean sheet and a goal. 

    I’d go with the same set up again. We’re playing Peterborough not Real Madrid. 
    I think it would be pretty nieve to treat each game/team as the same. Plus we aren't actually that good this season so we have to line up accordingly. In our promotion season the team pretty much picked itself because we were out playing teams but even then LB would switch to a back five at times 
    There is nieve and there is showing teams far to much respect.

    We aren't actually that good?  Can you please tell which players aren't good?  There are a number of players that aren't performing but that's different.

    This squad, has far more depth and experience than the one 2 years ago.  Admittedly that one had 2 or 3 players better than what we have now, but some like Bielik we are judging on hindsight. 

    The likes of Reeves, Marshall, Lapslie, Parker, Ajose, Ward, Solly and Hackett-Fairchild all played a significant number of games that season.

    If we play well, with round pegs in round holes, we will win far more games than we don't.  Including against the likes of Peterborough. 

    By accident or design Bowyer has final found a combination that works, and can be improved on. 

    Same team, baring injuries or suspension, not 4 or 5 personal or positional changes every game. 


    Too much respect? I think they're better then us in our current state hence why I feel the need for five at the back. 

    I don't see how you can say we've found a combination that works after a 4-4 draw against a average league 1 team and a 1-0 win against a extremely poor league 1 team. 

    I agree Bowyer has tinkered too much this season but again he hasn't had the best of luck with injuries or suspensions. Starting Aneke wouldn't be wise because we know he has fitness problems. Similar with JFC but Aneke seems more fragile. I'm also not writing Pearce off just yet. Yes he's been poor recently but I still think he's finding his feet after injury .
    Bristol Rovers have as many points as Rochdale with 2 games in hand....... 

    We have as many points as Peterborough, yes they have 2 games in hand, but their form is only marginally less erratic than ours.

    In the last 2 and a half hours of football we have played really well, scored 4 and conceded 1.  In reality we could have scored 7 or 8 and the 1 we conceded only goes in 1 time in 10.

    If we play well there isn't a team, or individual players, we should fear.  With the players we have other teams should worry about us. 

    You still haven't said which players "aren't good". 

    I said WE aren't actually that good this season, as a collective. There have been some good moments and some equally bad moments but from what I've seen I wouldn't put us in the top two teams in this division at the moment. There doesn't seem to be as much chemistry within the squad or ability. We are solid enough and I think we'll be in or around the playoffs come the end of the season but for me tomorrow will be a struggle.   


  • edited January 2021
    Redrobo said:
    Wmendonca said:
    se9addick said:
    I love Pearce, he’s been great for us, but I really don’t think he should be starting these days. Gunter and/or Pratley with Oshilaja is a better combination until Famewo is ready. 
    It's saying something that people would prefer to see Pratley at CB than pearce!
    I think Pearce attacks the ball better and is still the better CH than either. Can’t wait for Famewo to be back though.
    Pearce lacks pace but knows when to attack the ball and when to just stand his ground. Pratley goes for everything which can cause problems when he gets turned/beaten or commits a needless foul. He can do a job there, but as with any player that can do a job, you don't want to rely on this game in game out.
  • edited January 2021
    It’s an interesting discussion regarding Pearce or Gunter at CB. I understand people’s keenness to keep the back 4 the same, but I suspect Chris Gunter would be bullied by Clarke-Harris in a way Jason Pearce won’t be. 

    Clarke-Harris is a horrible striker to play against, not too dissimilar to Lyle Taylor. He’ll constantly peel on to Gunter and use his physicality to beat him every time. Gunter may be a bit quicker than Pearce, but this game will be a physical battle and we need Jason to add a bit of fight.

    I hope we start like this and keep it tight for the first 60: 



    I imagine we’ll finish the game with this sort of side:



    It’s possibly our toughest test of the season and every player needs to turn up if we’re going to get a win. 

    Charlton 2-2 Posh

    Got a sneaky feeling JFC will pick up a knock. 
  • I think that Perace/Gunter position is likely to be our most vulnerable area tomorrow. 
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  • edited January 2021
    Not sure how I feel about Clarke-Harris... Damned good Striker at this level yet never stood out when we played Bristol Rovers

    Dembele and his pace is the one who worries me

    Rovers exploited the space our Full-Backs left a bit too much on Saturday

    Reckon we'll go Maatsen on the Left so he can get forward, Gunter on the right who I find sits back a bit more than Matthews
  • I would probably play Pearce with Deji and play a bit like Accrington did against us. Always have bodies behind the ball but break quickly as much as possible. If we can worry them with our attack that should make defending easier. If they feel safe we could be in trouble.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    agim said:
    Valley11 said:
    agim said:
    agim said:
    se9addick said:
    agim said:
    I'm worried about this one. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 5-3-2 or 5-4-1 formation because I don't think our defence with the injuries etc is capable of handling their front three. Let's not sugar cost the clean sheet on Saturday as Bristol Rovers are a poor poor team! 
    Aneke needs a rest otherwise we risk him breaking down. Pratley needs to come into the midfield because he's probably our best at breaking things up in there and I can't see Famewo starting after so long out. I'd go with the below:

    Amos
    Matthews Gunter Deji Pearce Maatsen 
    Millar Gilbey Pratley JFC Williams 
    Bogle

    I'd allow Williams a free role in the final third with Maatsen overlapping. Millar needs to get in behind and JFC has to get forward to create. Bogle needs to hold up the ball, win flick ons and bring the others into play. 

    It's either this or go toe to toe with them and probably concede three or four. 
    A team with Pearce, Gilbey and Bogle starting would upset me deeply. 
    I've actually written a 12 man team there!
    It was early & I was tired LOL. Take Gilbey out of the midfield as I feel Pratley needs to be in there and JFC is playing well. Aneke will need a rest after his game load the past week & I doubt Schwartz is ready to start after hardly any game time this season. That leaves Bogle & Washington and I feel this is the sort of game where Bogles physicality may help us. We have a good little run of Bogle starting then Aneke scoring off the bench. For me Pearce starts ahead of Famewo purley because he's been out for so long. 
    Bogle playing as a loan striker is exactly what Peterborough will be praying for. 
    It's all a matter of opinions. I think if we play the same way we did on Saturday we will get beat as we aren't great defensively at the moment. Posh play three at the back according to the review, my plan would be to stifle their attack in numbers hence the 5 man defence and attack on the break with Bogle holding up and Millar, Williams, JFC supporting with overlaps from the wingbacks. Millar is the key to this with his defensive duties being minimum and him being the man with his pace to drive us forward. 

    I feel if we go toe to toe and play an open attacking game they will pick us apart.  
    I’d play the same formation as Rovers. Why change it AGAIN?!

    This season has been characterised by total inconsistency. For once we found a forumla that brought a clean sheet and a goal. 

    I’d go with the same set up again. We’re playing Peterborough not Real Madrid. 
    I think it would be pretty nieve to treat each game/team as the same. Plus we aren't actually that good this season so we have to line up accordingly. In our promotion season the team pretty much picked itself because we were out playing teams but even then LB would switch to a back five at times 
    There is nieve and 

     


    There's also naive  ;)
  • Not sure how I feel about Clarke-Harris... Damned good Striker at this level yet never stood out when we played Bristol Rovers

    Dembele and his pace is the one who worries me

    Rovers exploited the space our Full-Backs left a bit too much on Saturday

    Reckon we'll go Maatsen on the Left so he can get forward, Gunter on the right who I find sits back a bit more than Matthews
    I’m hoping there’s a development in the Dembele transfer saga before the game to put him off.
  • Pearce should be alright in defence if we have Pratley playing in front of the back four

  • Remember, tomorrow's game kicks off at the earlier time of 6.30pm! #cafc

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  • This will be a real test of our quality, they have scored one goal less than us and have conceded eight less in two fewer games .. I'll be happy(ish) if we come away with a point against a club that is (as ever) punching above it's weight under the shrewd and tight control of the owner and the manager who has steely football in his blood

    Peterborough United 1 v CAFC 1
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  • Gilbey's a tad faster than appears in a game then.
  • I was at the game and predicted the ref would even it up, which he did, and we ended up winning it. Was it Savage that got sent off? Brown's was a sending off but those were the days when the valley was a very intimidating place as Sir Alex commented at the time. 
  • edited January 2021
    We have a spell of rain sweeping the country. Given their pitch isn't the best, is this game possibly a doubt?
  • We have a spell of rain sweeping the country. Given their pitch isn't th ebest, is this game possibly a doubt?
    Rain, starting tonight until Thursday morning. Not necessarily heavy, but persistent. Depends how well their pitch gets rid of water
  • This will be a real test of our quality, they have scored one goal less than us and have conceded eight less in two fewer games .. I'll be happy(ish) if we come away with a point against a club that is (as ever) punching above it's weight under the shrewd and tight control of the owner and the manager who has steely football in his blood

    Peterborough United 1 v CAFC 1
    They have got 2 players they have recently spent the best part of a million quid each on. 

    Am I right in saying the only 2 players in our squad we paid a fee for are Pearce and Purrington?   I think fees were mentioned for Washington, Gilbey and Innis but have never seen anything confirmed.

    I am not sure they are punching above their weight, isn't top 6-8 in league 1 about where they should be?

    Sorry going off at a tangent. 
  • We have a spell of rain sweeping the country. Given their pitch isn't the best, is this game possibly a doubt?
    We can only hope.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    This will be a real test of our quality, they have scored one goal less than us and have conceded eight less in two fewer games .. I'll be happy(ish) if we come away with a point against a club that is (as ever) punching above it's weight under the shrewd and tight control of the owner and the manager who has steely football in his blood

    Peterborough United 1 v CAFC 1
    They have got 2 players they have recently spent the best part of a million quid each on. 

    Am I right in saying the only 2 players in our squad we paid a fee for are Pearce and Purrington?   I think fees were mentioned for Washington, Gilbey and Innis but have never seen anything confirmed.

    I am not sure they are punching above their weight, isn't top 6-8 in league 1 about where they should be?

    Sorry going off at a tangent. 
    the sale of Toney financed their recent signings, buy low cost, sell high cost .. plus of course a 16 year spell under the very shrewd MacAnthony D has allowed for gradual, successful development .. in contrast it seems the profits from the sale of our best players  went into Duchatelet's pocket to offset his losses and nothing was left for team development  .. because of  our recent disastrous ownership history, we have punched well below our weight whereas Posh have excelled with minimal but careful investment


  • It's not that Pearce is better/worse than Gunter but he is so slow and plays so deep, it means our midfield gets over-run in all the extra space.

  • Not sure how I feel about Clarke-Harris... Damned good Striker at this level yet never stood out when we played Bristol Rovers

    Dembele and his pace is the one who worries me

    Rovers exploited the space our Full-Backs left a bit too much on Saturday

    Reckon we'll go Maatsen on the Left so he can get forward, Gunter on the right who I find sits back a bit more than Matthews
    I used to see C-Harris in the season when I spent time watching Rotherham .. he was a sulky quitter at that time, albeit you could see the underlying talent, and has now matured into a very good lower league striker ..
    one memory versus us was at the New York when he blazed a penalty over the bar and nearly took my head off as I was standing right behind our goal waving and shouting to put him off .. I claim no credit for his miss ((:>)
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