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Matt Smith MK2 (the Arsenal loanee one) - gone to Wigan p7
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Swindon fans love him. A lot of Motm performances.Seems we’ve done a bit of a Swansea last season with Gallagher. I’m happy with this! Him and jfc in central midfield, Kirk and millar as wingers, thats a strong midfield0
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Being a arsenal youth team player, I expect he has plenty enough ability on the ball. I just don't see how he will be better then Shinnie, or JFC on current form - I'd even be interested to see what is he bringing to the side that Morgan does not have?
Unless Bowyer is going to play him in the Pratley or Watson role which I dont see happening.
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But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player2
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Hopefully he’ll be more Coquelin than Frimpong.8
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You're being really mopey today, and it's getting a bit repetitive across the threads. Maybe take a break.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player
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He was told to man mark and did it well. Pratley is frustrating and has a lot of failings, but credit should always be given where due.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player
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He can tackle and pass. I’d like to think in a 442 he’s replacing the pratley/Watson role who aren’t mobile enough (yes I know pratley contained Fraser but he is not mobile enough)2
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25 games in to this season and that’s the first time we’ve built a player around fully man-marking another. It ended with us winning the game 1-0. No idea why sarcasm is needed a week later. Just enjoy the win and the fact Pratley did a certain kind of job well for ONE specific game.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player8 -
I’m sending Pratley to man mark you Leuth for the rest of this season. Every time you go to post he’s gonna be at your keyboard removing letters34
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All this talk of binning off Maddison has aroused my ireGarrymanilow said:
You're being really mopey today, and it's getting a bit repetitive across the threads. Maybe take a break.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player3 - Sponsored links:
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IF we see Maddison go it'll add to the argument that Bowyer can only manage easy to manage players and that he can only use already decent players and doesn't in fact make any players better, he just bins the ones that don't play well for a spell.Leuth said:
All this talk of binning off Maddison has aroused my ireGarrymanilow said:
You're being really mopey today, and it's getting a bit repetitive across the threads. Maybe take a break.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player
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NonsenseDazzler21 said:
IF we see Maddison go it'll add to the argument that Bowyer can only manage easy to manage players and that he can only use already decent players and doesn't in fact make any players better, he just bins the ones that don't play well for a spell.Leuth said:
All this talk of binning off Maddison has aroused my ireGarrymanilow said:
You're being really mopey today, and it's getting a bit repetitive across the threads. Maybe take a break.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player4 -
Can he?Champs85 said:He can tackle and pass. I’d like to think in a 442 he’s replacing the pratley/Watson role who aren’t mobile enough (yes I know pratley contained Fraser but he is not mobile enough)
He's a passing midfielder, so I'd be amazed if a 20 year old could also be a solid defensive player as well0 -
Don't see how it is, what hard to manage players has he had?Rothko said:
NonsenseDazzler21 said:
IF we see Maddison go it'll add to the argument that Bowyer can only manage easy to manage players and that he can only use already decent players and doesn't in fact make any players better, he just bins the ones that don't play well for a spell.Leuth said:
All this talk of binning off Maddison has aroused my ireGarrymanilow said:
You're being really mopey today, and it's getting a bit repetitive across the threads. Maybe take a break.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player
What players have genuinely improved under Bowyer? A few have gone backwards.
I'm not calling for the guys head, just calling out his BS on how he always improves players. We've seen it is not true. We've also seen him fail a few times to manage players that could be seen as more difficult.2 -
Albie Morgan's got better at kicking people3
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I haven't done the groundwork yet (for which I apologise), but the arrival of Matt Smith forms the basis for a nice quiz question:
Apart from the obvious 1947 team, which Charlton players (past and present) have an FA Cup Winners medal?3 -
Taylor didn’t exactly smack me as easy for example, I don’t know the personalities of individual players.Dazzler21 said:
Don't see how it is, what hard to manage players has he had?Rothko said:
NonsenseDazzler21 said:
IF we see Maddison go it'll add to the argument that Bowyer can only manage easy to manage players and that he can only use already decent players and doesn't in fact make any players better, he just bins the ones that don't play well for a spell.Leuth said:
All this talk of binning off Maddison has aroused my ireGarrymanilow said:
You're being really mopey today, and it's getting a bit repetitive across the threads. Maybe take a break.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player
What players have genuinely improved under Bowyer? A few have gone backwards.As for improvement. Well Taylor, Grant, Gallagher, Doughty, Belik, Cullen, Aribo etc etc9 -
I've a hunch Smith will play quite a lot once he's settled here. Of all the loanees I'd probably rather Maatsen wasn't involved as Purrington can do a job. Though all six being fit is another matter.0
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From the current team; Ben WatsonDave Rudd said:I haven't done the groundwork yet (for which I apologise), but the arrival of Matt Smith forms the basis for a nice quiz question:
Apart from the obvious 1947 team, which Charlton players (past and present) have an FA Cup Winners medal?1 - Sponsored links:
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It's only as much nonsense that we improve everyone that walks through door is.Rothko said:
NonsenseDazzler21 said:
IF we see Maddison go it'll add to the argument that Bowyer can only manage easy to manage players and that he can only use already decent players and doesn't in fact make any players better, he just bins the ones that don't play well for a spell.Leuth said:
All this talk of binning off Maddison has aroused my ireGarrymanilow said:
You're being really mopey today, and it's getting a bit repetitive across the threads. Maybe take a break.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player0 -
Phillips, Dijksteel, Sarr, Cullen, Aribo, Bielik, Morgan, Doughty, Grant, Taylor, Gallagher, Innis, Famewo. It's a long list.Rothko said:
Taylor didn’t exactly smack me as easy for example, I don’t know the personalities of individual players.Dazzler21 said:
Don't see how it is, what hard to manage players has he had?Rothko said:
NonsenseDazzler21 said:
IF we see Maddison go it'll add to the argument that Bowyer can only manage easy to manage players and that he can only use already decent players and doesn't in fact make any players better, he just bins the ones that don't play well for a spell.Leuth said:
All this talk of binning off Maddison has aroused my ireGarrymanilow said:
You're being really mopey today, and it's getting a bit repetitive across the threads. Maybe take a break.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player
What players have genuinely improved under Bowyer? A few have gone backwards.As for improvement. Well Taylor, Grant, Gallagher, Doughty, Belik, Cullen, Aribo etc etc
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The Arsenal Reconnection Does In Swindon
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Smith, Barnes, Blomquist, Crooks, Maxie Miller, Watson, Pates, Jeffers, Murphy?Dave Rudd said:I haven't done the groundwork yet (for which I apologise), but the arrival of Matt Smith forms the basis for a nice quiz question:
Apart from the obvious 1947 team, which Charlton players (past and present) have an FA Cup Winners medal?0 -
He didn't manage Taylor very well did he?Rothko said:
Taylor didn’t exactly smack me as easy for example, I don’t know the personalities of individual players.Dazzler21 said:
Don't see how it is, what hard to manage players has he had?Rothko said:
NonsenseDazzler21 said:
IF we see Maddison go it'll add to the argument that Bowyer can only manage easy to manage players and that he can only use already decent players and doesn't in fact make any players better, he just bins the ones that don't play well for a spell.Leuth said:
All this talk of binning off Maddison has aroused my ireGarrymanilow said:
You're being really mopey today, and it's getting a bit repetitive across the threads. Maybe take a break.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player
What players have genuinely improved under Bowyer? A few have gone backwards.As for improvement. Well Taylor, Grant, Gallagher, Doughty, Belik, Cullen, Aribo etc etc
- Taylor had a good season before joining us. 14 goals and 7 assists in a struggling side.
- Gallagher arrived already good enough to smash the Championship.
- Doughty hasn't really improved a great deal IMO, arrived quick and with a sometimes sloppy touch and a decent cross, was the same before his injury. Looked like he'd improved over last season because the opposition and some of his team mates this season are worse.
- Cullen was already really good he slotted straight in for a reason.
- Aribo was decent the season before we got promoted.
- Grant had his penny drop moment at Crawley. He is a fair shout, even if I don't agree that it was entirely down to Bowyer.
- Bielik probably your best shout.
- Leko could have been a great argument against what I said too.
- Field didn't really improve.
- Hemed got much worse after looking useful at first.
- Pearce has regressed
- Purrington improved, then regressed.
- Solly got worse
- F.Caskey looks an improvement, but once again we're in a lower league.
- Lapslie was always Lapslie, immediately improved upon going elsewhere (admittedly a lower level)
- Fosu got worse
- Marshall got worse
- Josh Parker improved... Still couldn't hit a barn door...
- Sarr was Sarr, hero to villain at a moments notice.
- Dijksteel improved
- Matt Smith looked awful from the start, but has played plenty in a better side since.
- Oztumer has looked awful under Bow - Got worse
- Williams has got worse.
He'd be better off saying "we make some players better, the ones who want it and work for it"
Anyway let's move on this isn't the thread for it.
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Charlton Life record! 2 pages in to a new signing thread and we’re listing past players that were/weren’t improved under bowyer.19
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I don’t understand that @Val@ValiantphilValiantphil said:The Arsenal Reconnection Does In Swindon
Who ?
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Fosu has improved while Bowyer has been our manager17
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It's a good list.Cafc43v3r said:
Smith, Barnes, Blomquist, Crooks, Maxie Miller, Watson, Pates, Jeffers, Murphy?Dave Rudd said:I haven't done the groundwork yet (for which I apologise), but the arrival of Matt Smith forms the basis for a nice quiz question:
Apart from the obvious 1947 team, which Charlton players (past and present) have an FA Cup Winners medal?
Not sure about Pates.1 -
TARDIS.AFKABartram said:
I don’t understand that @Val@ValiantphilValiantphil said:The Arsenal Reconnection Does In Swindon
Who ?
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