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Matt Smith MK2 (the Arsenal loanee one) - gone to Wigan p7
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Shame it wasn't under Bowyeroohaahmortimer said:Fosu has improved while Bowyer has been our manager
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”should hit the ground running” (Bowyer) = Trips over his own feet
“he’ll complement our team and the way we play” (Gallen) = Won't get picked, but he'll say nice things when he's standing on the touchline
Seriously though, Welcome Matt. I think this may be the first time in our history that we've had two players with identical names (I'll check later). Good job we have a numbering system to distinguish him from Matt Smith (V895).
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Million dollar question, is whether Swindon sent him back because he wasn’t deemed good enough, or whether we ‘poached’ him a la Gallgher to Swansea.0
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Apparently it was Swindon’s manager decision. A lot of Swindon fans are livid he’s gone.cafcsinger said:Million dollar question, is whether Swindon sent him back because he wasn’t deemed good enough, or whether we ‘poached’ him a la Gallgher to Swansea.10 -
I thought he was at Arsenal when they beat Wednesday, he wasn't, on a side note he won the league but didn't get a medal.Dave Rudd said:
It's a good list.Cafc43v3r said:
Smith, Barnes, Blomquist, Crooks, Maxie Miller, Watson, Pates, Jeffers, Murphy?Dave Rudd said:I haven't done the groundwork yet (for which I apologise), but the arrival of Matt Smith forms the basis for a nice quiz question:
Apart from the obvious 1947 team, which Charlton players (past and present) have an FA Cup Winners medal?
Not sure about Pates.0 -
Which can only be a good thing.stoneroses19 said:
Apparently it was Swindon’s manager decision. A lot of Swindon fans are livid he’s gone.cafcsinger said:Million dollar question, is whether Swindon sent him back because he wasn’t deemed good enough, or whether we ‘poached’ him a la Gallgher to Swansea.
If it had been Bowyer's decision to send Gallagher back, we'd have been livid too.2 -
We've had two David Campbells IIRC. I saw the second one play but not the first.Stig said:”should hit the ground running” (Bowyer) = Trips over his own feet“he’ll complement our team and the way we play” (Gallen) = Won't get picked, but he'll say nice things when he's standing on the touchline
Seriously though, Welcome Matt. I think this may be the first time in our history that we've had two players with identical names (I'll check later). Good job we have a numbering system to distinguish him from Matt Smith (V895).
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Dazzler21 said:
He didn't manage Taylor very well did he?Rothko said:
Taylor didn’t exactly smack me as easy for example, I don’t know the personalities of individual players.Dazzler21 said:
Don't see how it is, what hard to manage players has he had?Rothko said:
NonsenseDazzler21 said:
IF we see Maddison go it'll add to the argument that Bowyer can only manage easy to manage players and that he can only use already decent players and doesn't in fact make any players better, he just bins the ones that don't play well for a spell.Leuth said:
All this talk of binning off Maddison has aroused my ireGarrymanilow said:
You're being really mopey today, and it's getting a bit repetitive across the threads. Maybe take a break.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player
What players have genuinely improved under Bowyer? A few have gone backwards.As for improvement. Well Taylor, Grant, Gallagher, Doughty, Belik, Cullen, Aribo etc etc
- Taylor had a good season before joining us. 14 goals and 7 assists in a struggling side.
- Gallagher arrived already good enough to smash the Championship.
- Doughty hasn't really improved a great deal IMO, arrived quick and with a sometimes sloppy touch and a decent cross, was the same before his injury. Looked like he'd improved over last season because the opposition and some of his team mates this season are worse.
- Cullen was already really good he slotted straight in for a reason.
- Aribo was decent the season before we got promoted.
- Grant had his penny drop moment at Crawley. He is a fair shout, even if I don't agree that it was entirely down to Bowyer.
- Bielik probably your best shout.
- Leko could have been a great argument against what I said too.
- Field didn't really improve.
etc etcCome on now. Lyle scored 25 goals in L1 for us and then 11 in 22 games in the Championship. Bowyer managed him brilliantly, made him a key player and played into his desire to be challenged and loved but got done over by the idiocy of the ownerships. Gallagher came in having never played senior football and developed so quickly that Chelsea wanted him to play at a higher level within 6 months. Clear improvement even beyond what Chelsea had anticipated. Doughty was playing in the National League and has been signed by a Championship club pushing for the Play-Offs just over a year after making his league debut for us. Cullen was good, but was loaned out to us in League One after not pulling up trees in the Championship the season before. After one season in L1 with us he then returned to play in the Championship, didn't look out of place and now plays in the top division in Belgium. Aribo was decent, but was made into a regular first team player, visibly improved and then was signed for a team playing in Europe and made his debut for Nigeria. Grant had a good loan but then developed from a player who had done well in League 2 to a Premier League signing within a season. Field spent most of the season injured so I don't think we can take any credit for him.It's just disingenuous to say that Bowyer can't take credit for the fact players have developed to a point where teams in the leagues above us are looking to take them off us or their parent clubs9 -
He turned Chuks into a pretty deadly number 9.3
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I'd keep it going @Dazzler21, but not when you're indulging in arguing in such bad faith
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This Matt Smith is as confusing as the last one. So far I have seen he is an 8 or a 10 and a replacement for Pratley.
Why don't people just say I haven't got a scooby I have only seen him once/twice and didn't pay much attention? Then try and label him once you have actually seen him play?1 -
Who would have thought that good young players come in to the team and play and get better
What about the shit players who come in to the team and are shit and moved on2 -
My thoughts.
There's too many Matt Smiths in the game...and Dembeles and Traores2 -
In the early 00s there was a plethora of Cisse's almost everyone had one. Seem to have gone out of fashion.carly burn said:My thoughts.
There's too many Matt Smiths in the game...and Dembeles and Traores2 -
Maurice Setters
It's a good list.Cafc43v3r said:
Smith, Barnes, Blomquist, Crooks, Maxie Miller, Watson, Pates, Jeffers, Murphy?Dave Rudd said:I haven't done the groundwork yet (for which I apologise), but the arrival of Matt Smith forms the basis for a nice quiz question:
Apart from the obvious 1947 team, which Charlton players (past and present) have an FA Cup Winners medal?
Not sure about Pates.0 -
I will admit I haven't a scooby but really don't see him being an upgrade on what we already have but I will trust Gallen on this one as its his job not mine.Cafc43v3r said:This Matt Smith is as confusing as the last one. So far I have seen he is an 8 or a 10 and a replacement for Pratley.
Why don't people just say I haven't got a scooby I have only seen him once/twice and didn't pay much attention? Then try and label him once you have actually seen him play?
Look forward to comparing how much game time he gets with us seeing as he got a lot at Swindon0 -
Hope he can be more effective than Levitt. We’ve had some goodens from Arsenal so fingers crossed he we will cut the mustard.1
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Are we saying Taylor was well managed? He was good for us until the moment he became a bit of a nightmare, downed tools and we got relegated!Rothko said:
Taylor didn’t exactly smack me as easy for example, I don’t know the personalities of individual players.Dazzler21 said:
Don't see how it is, what hard to manage players has he had?Rothko said:
NonsenseDazzler21 said:
IF we see Maddison go it'll add to the argument that Bowyer can only manage easy to manage players and that he can only use already decent players and doesn't in fact make any players better, he just bins the ones that don't play well for a spell.Leuth said:
All this talk of binning off Maddison has aroused my ireGarrymanilow said:
You're being really mopey today, and it's getting a bit repetitive across the threads. Maybe take a break.Leuth said:But the opposition will have a good player so we'll have to play Pratley instead to man-mark him and get rave reviews from everyone for what a good job he did running around after one specific opposition player
What players have genuinely improved under Bowyer? A few have gone backwards.As for improvement. Well Taylor, Grant, Gallagher, Doughty, Belik, Cullen, Aribo etc etc2 -
Can't pretend to know anything about him other than what's been posted on here but on the vids he clearly likes to pass forward, has good vision, and plays well with both feet. Guess the same could possibly be said for Levitt - let's hope he makes a lot more impact. Be funny if he's instrumental in a win against Pompey since he wasn't here on Saturday!0
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one Matty Smithy, there's only one !? ...... .. hang on, which one haven we just signed ?3
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Very good hit.Starinnaddick said:
Maurice Setters
It's a good list.Cafc43v3r said:
Smith, Barnes, Blomquist, Crooks, Maxie Miller, Watson, Pates, Jeffers, Murphy?Dave Rudd said:I haven't done the groundwork yet (for which I apologise), but the arrival of Matt Smith forms the basis for a nice quiz question:
Apart from the obvious 1947 team, which Charlton players (past and present) have an FA Cup Winners medal?
Not sure about Pates.0 -
Paul Gilchrist (Southampton) and Vic Halom ( Sunderland). David Young would have got an unused sub medal for the Mackems as well.Dave Rudd said:
Very good hit.Starinnaddick said:
Maurice Setters
It's a good list.Cafc43v3r said:
Smith, Barnes, Blomquist, Crooks, Maxie Miller, Watson, Pates, Jeffers, Murphy?Dave Rudd said:I haven't done the groundwork yet (for which I apologise), but the arrival of Matt Smith forms the basis for a nice quiz question:
Apart from the obvious 1947 team, which Charlton players (past and present) have an FA Cup Winners medal?
Not sure about Pates.0 -
Billy BondsCafc43v3r said:
Smith, Barnes, Blomquist, Crooks, Maxie Miller, Watson, Pates, Jeffers, Murphy?Dave Rudd said:I haven't done the groundwork yet (for which I apologise), but the arrival of Matt Smith forms the basis for a nice quiz question:
Apart from the obvious 1947 team, which Charlton players (past and present) have an FA Cup Winners medal?1 -
hermann hreiðarsson Is anotherDave Rudd said:
It's a good list.Cafc43v3r said:
Smith, Barnes, Blomquist, Crooks, Maxie Miller, Watson, Pates, Jeffers, Murphy?Dave Rudd said:I haven't done the groundwork yet (for which I apologise), but the arrival of Matt Smith forms the basis for a nice quiz question:
Apart from the obvious 1947 team, which Charlton players (past and present) have an FA Cup Winners medal?
Not sure about Pates.
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Ben Watson.Dave Rudd said:I haven't done the groundwork yet (for which I apologise), but the arrival of Matt Smith forms the basis for a nice quiz question:
Apart from the obvious 1947 team, which Charlton players (past and present) have an FA Cup Winners medal?
I guess I'm late to the party?
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No youtube video of him playing like Messi, you lot are slacking. I'll come back to this thread in a bit when there is one.
Welcome Matt Smith1 -
aliwibble said:
We've had two David Campbells IIRC. I saw the second one play but not the first.Stig said:”should hit the ground running” (Bowyer) = Trips over his own feet“he’ll complement our team and the way we play” (Gallen) = Won't get picked, but he'll say nice things when he's standing on the touchline
Seriously though, Welcome Matt. I think this may be the first time in our history that we've had two players with identical names (I'll check later). Good job we have a numbering system to distinguish him from Matt Smith (V895).
I remember the first David Campbell was a young centre half who came through the youth system here.
Broke into the 1st team as a teenager and established himself quickly.
Then got destroyed by the bullying of his manager, Andy Nelson.
And quit football at 21 or something.
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Nicholas said:No youtube video of him playing like Messi, you lot are slacking. I'll come back to this thread in a bit when there is one.
Welcome Matt Smith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzSDOsCYhck
Looks like the Shinnie/Morgan competition really. But can definitely play the deeper role as shown in the video.2 -
And as my son reminded me, "We've got two Sodjes".aliwibble said:
We've had two David Campbells IIRC. I saw the second one play but not the first.Stig said:”should hit the ground running” (Bowyer) = Trips over his own feet“he’ll complement our team and the way we play” (Gallen) = Won't get picked, but he'll say nice things when he's standing on the touchline
Seriously though, Welcome Matt. I think this may be the first time in our history that we've had two players with identical names (I'll check later). Good job we have a numbering system to distinguish him from Matt Smith (V895).
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Didn't we have two Radostin Kishishevs ....... or have I got that wrong?Stig said:
And as my son reminded me, "We've got two Sodjes".aliwibble said:
We've had two David Campbells IIRC. I saw the second one play but not the first.Stig said:”should hit the ground running” (Bowyer) = Trips over his own feet“he’ll complement our team and the way we play” (Gallen) = Won't get picked, but he'll say nice things when he's standing on the touchline
Seriously though, Welcome Matt. I think this may be the first time in our history that we've had two players with identical names (I'll check later). Good job we have a numbering system to distinguish him from Matt Smith (V895).
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