We seem to be getting bogged down in a stodgy pie and mash debate, so I think I will throw a grenade into the conversation that is guaranteed to upset @Big_Bad_World
Gentlemen I give you the appalling side dish known as Mushy Peas - absolutely disgusting - looks like sick, has the texture of sick, and tastes like it
Can you be quick enough BBW to pick it up and throw it back before it explodes ....
I think it's safe to say we're never going to be friends.
Mushy peas with fish and chips (not always) is a very sound and agreeable side to the meal, along with tartar sauce. Please tell me that you have tomato ketchup with yours so the final nail in this very fragile relationship can be firmly hammered in
We have found common ground - you can call off the Makros mob and I'll call off mine!
Also, I would never have tomato ketchup with anything!
We seem to be getting bogged down in a stodgy pie and mash debate, so I think I will throw a grenade into the conversation that is guaranteed to upset @Big_Bad_World
Gentlemen I give you the appalling side dish known as Mushy Peas - absolutely disgusting - looks like sick, has the texture of sick, and tastes like it
Can you be quick enough BBW to pick it up and throw it back before it explodes ....
I think it's safe to say we're never going to be friends.
Mushy peas with fish and chips (not always) is a very sound and agreeable side to the meal, along with tartar sauce. Please tell me that you have tomato ketchup with yours so the final nail in this very fragile relationship can be firmly hammered in
We have found common ground - you can call off the Makros mob and I'll call off mine!
Also, I would never have tomato ketchup with anything!
Hold on a minute, I’ve booked the catering already !!
We seem to be getting bogged down in a stodgy pie and mash debate, so I think I will throw a grenade into the conversation that is guaranteed to upset @Big_Bad_World
Gentlemen I give you the appalling side dish known as Mushy Peas - absolutely disgusting - looks like sick, has the texture of sick, and tastes like it
Can you be quick enough BBW to pick it up and throw it back before it explodes ....
I think it's safe to say we're never going to be friends.
Mushy peas with fish and chips (not always) is a very sound and agreeable side to the meal, along with tartar sauce. Please tell me that you have tomato ketchup with yours so the final nail in this very fragile relationship can be firmly hammered in
We have found common ground - you can call off the Makros mob and I'll call off mine!
Also, I would never have tomato ketchup with anything!
Hold on a minute, I’ve booked the catering already !!
comparing pie mash pies to ‘normal’ pies can’t be done. They’re two different meals. It’s like comparing Chinese to Indian.
Normal pies are lovely but they’re laden with gravy and lumps of meat and the pastry they come in means they wouldn’t go with liquor or vinegar. You have them with gravy and veg.
Pie mash pies are supposed to be soggy. They’re made from water dough and suet. Individually the ingredients of pie mash could be seen by some as a bit bland, I understand that, but all mixed together, with lashings of vinegar and white pepper.... they are a taste sensation.
I could eat it every day of the week. And have done.
So you admit soggy and bland only made a 'taste sensation' (yes right) by adding lashings of vinegar and white pepper. Surely a bowl of vinegar and white pepper alone would create the same illusion of proper food?
The phrase 'Hoisted by his own petard' springs to mind!
PS: just been out to the garage and checked in the freezer - full of Manzes pies and tubs of liquor. I was very nearly ill on the spot!
But a ‘normal pie’ would be bland without the gravy in it. As would cottage pie and other things. A tikka masala would be pretty bland without the masala. The vinegar and white are an integral part of the meal and mixed with all the other ingredients make it what it is.
I consider gravy and/or masala sauce as an integral part of the dish - not condiments!!
Still I accept (must stop using the word 'admit') that it takes all sorts - particularly those who appreciate good food and those that don't.
Seriously, I've always thought there was a degree of Emperor's new clothes about pie and mash with south Londoners. 'You're not a proper saarf lundanner if you don't like pie and mash'.
Ok they are maybe a bad example. Think maybe crispy aromatic duck?. Have that without hoisin sauce and it’s bland. Add the hoisin and it’s a different meal. How bland are fish and chip chips without a good load of salt and vinegar added? Sometimes the condiment is an integral part of the meal.
I was eating pie mash before I could walk, as were my parents and my kids. Always loved it, as they do, never ate it to try and be more ‘south London’ in any way 😁
you’re obviously too good for pie mash though 😉
Not at all - I'm just a good old south London council house kid.
Typical simple meal for me would be foie gras followed by lobster ;-)
Honestly I just don't like the flavour and texture of pie and mash pies - I'll eat pretty much anything else.
We seem to be getting bogged down in a stodgy pie and mash debate, so I think I will throw a grenade into the conversation that is guaranteed to upset @Big_Bad_World
Gentlemen I give you the appalling side dish known as Mushy Peas - absolutely disgusting - looks like sick, has the texture of sick, and tastes like it
Can you be quick enough BBW to pick it up and throw it back before it explodes ....
I think it's safe to say we're never going to be friends.
Mushy peas with fish and chips (not always) is a very sound and agreeable side to the meal, along with tartar sauce. Please tell me that you have tomato ketchup with yours so the final nail in this very fragile relationship can be firmly hammered in
We have found common ground - you can call off the Makros mob and I'll call off mine!
Also, I would never have tomato ketchup with anything!
Hold on a minute, I’ve booked the catering already !!
Bacon sandwich is a bit plain for me. Throw an egg in there and I'm all over it.
Thick cut unsmoked bacon (with the rind on, none of these medallion bollocks) on fresh doorstep thick white bloomer covered in lashings of butter so the hot bacon melts the butter into the bread. Heaven.
comparing pie mash pies to ‘normal’ pies can’t be done. They’re two different meals. It’s like comparing Chinese to Indian.
Normal pies are lovely but they’re laden with gravy and lumps of meat and the pastry they come in means they wouldn’t go with liquor or vinegar. You have them with gravy and veg.
Pie mash pies are supposed to be soggy. They’re made from water dough and suet. Individually the ingredients of pie mash could be seen by some as a bit bland, I understand that, but all mixed together, with lashings of vinegar and white pepper.... they are a taste sensation.
I could eat it every day of the week. And have done.
So you admit soggy and bland only made a 'taste sensation' (yes right) by adding lashings of vinegar and white pepper. Surely a bowl of vinegar and white pepper alone would create the same illusion of proper food?
The phrase 'Hoisted by his own petard' springs to mind!
PS: just been out to the garage and checked in the freezer - full of Manzes pies and tubs of liquor. I was very nearly ill on the spot!
Then you wouldn't want to check the freezers in this house @BobMunro.......... Duck, Venison, pheasant, partridge, grouse, rabbit, salmon............ you'd think @Henry Irving lived here until you find the pigs heads. Then there's our freezer..........full of Icelands special offers
Bacon sandwich is a bit plain for me. Throw an egg in there and I'm all over it.
How can you not love a simple bacon sandwich?
Best thing in the world when hungover (well, apart from sleep, coffee, water and/or painkillers).
It's just a bit of a disappointment. A slither of salty meat with a bit of ketchup. Although Bob's description does sound appealing.
I've recently learned that drinking coffee on a hangover turbocharges the shit feeling. I wish I learned it 15 years ago. Recommend giving abstaining a go, Neil.
comparing pie mash pies to ‘normal’ pies can’t be done. They’re two different meals. It’s like comparing Chinese to Indian.
Normal pies are lovely but they’re laden with gravy and lumps of meat and the pastry they come in means they wouldn’t go with liquor or vinegar. You have them with gravy and veg.
Pie mash pies are supposed to be soggy. They’re made from water dough and suet. Individually the ingredients of pie mash could be seen by some as a bit bland, I understand that, but all mixed together, with lashings of vinegar and white pepper.... they are a taste sensation.
I could eat it every day of the week. And have done.
So you admit soggy and bland only made a 'taste sensation' (yes right) by adding lashings of vinegar and white pepper. Surely a bowl of vinegar and white pepper alone would create the same illusion of proper food?
The phrase 'Hoisted by his own petard' springs to mind!
PS: just been out to the garage and checked in the freezer - full of Manzes pies and tubs of liquor. I was very nearly ill on the spot!
Then you wouldn't want to check the freezers in this house @BobMunro.......... Duck, Venison, pheasant, partridge, grouse, rabbit, salmon............ you'd think @Henry Irving lived here until you find the pigs heads. Then there's our freezer..........full of Icelands special offers
Bacon sandwich is a bit plain for me. Throw an egg in there and I'm all over it.
How can you not love a simple bacon sandwich?
Best thing in the world when hungover (well, apart from sleep, coffee, water and/or painkillers).
It's just a bit of a disappointment. A slither of salty meat with a bit of ketchup. Although Bob's description does sound appealing.
I've recently learned that drinking coffee on a hangover turbocharges the shit feeling. I wish I learned it 15 years ago. Recommend giving abstaining a go, Neil.
To be honest I've forgotten what a hangover feels like after firstly having kids and secondly being in a lockdown!
Taken just before adding a wee bit more chilli vinegar and pepper. Nothing soggy about it 😋😋😋😋
If you put that on rate my plate you would pelters from the Plate Police
The stuff in the middle looks like frog spawn - the alleged pie looks over burned - strange design with the mash 😉
Call yourself south London??? Maaaaag
No - born and bred Dartford - can’t think of a traditional Kent dish though !!!
Gypsy Tart - a frequent option at school dinner. Pretty much pure sugar in pastry!
That's pretty much the problem I have. I often have to ask Mrs cafcfan whether something is sweet or savoury, so a list like this is difficult for me. But even I think something consisting mostly of sugar is sweet?
Anyway, back to the list. I spot an inconsistency. Doesn't a full English, by definition, include black pudding? But that's in the crap tier. Surely that automatically relegates full English from the top tier?
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And mayonnaise with chips which although Belgian is very nice. Unless @Live by the sword throws loads over your Kashmir jumper in St Trudin.
Of course smoked salmon and cream cheese bagels (pronounced "bie-gal" not "bay-gal" are above G_D tier
@UEAAddick
https://daisiesandpie.co.uk/kentish-rarebit-super-tasty-cheese-on-toast/
I’ve also found Appledore Chicken Pie which sounds rather nice judging by the ingredients
Yes I know - f*cking pie and mash!
Best thing in the world when hungover (well, apart from sleep, coffee, water and/or painkillers).
Chatham crabs.
Duck, Venison, pheasant, partridge, grouse, rabbit, salmon............ you'd think @Henry Irving lived here until you find the pigs heads. Then there's our freezer..........full of Icelands special offers
I've recently learned that drinking coffee on a hangover turbocharges the shit feeling. I wish I learned it 15 years ago. Recommend giving abstaining a go, Neil.
All good for me, Ray - apart from the pigs head.
Not sure if they sound delicious or disgusting, only one way to find out.....not by fighting but by giving them a go.
Anyway, back to the list. I spot an inconsistency. Doesn't a full English, by definition, include black pudding? But that's in the crap tier. Surely that automatically relegates full English from the top tier?