Echo what's been said above, there is only a limited number of main event slots, which is why big names from NXT get lost in the shuffle. Hopefully Hit Row are the next to disappear!
WCW had a similar issue. Parking my issues with Bret's attitude (pun not intended) he also came with Bulldog and Neidhart. What do you do with those? Likewise Jannetty also got signed and i can't remember him doing anything other than being in a battle royale at Slamboree '98.🤷🏻♂️
Punk seems to be more of a commentator than a wrestler, Cole seems to be lost in the Elite like Henning in the NWO (both having great matches but not much else), Danielson and Ruby are straight in the main event but where do they go from there? If they win the belts does it make AEW look inferior to WWE, if they lose do they lose their credibility? Where do Wyatt and Braun fit in?
Likewise with the WCW comparison they need to develop their own stars and not have former WWE employees pushing them down the card.
Impact is a joke. Their world champion called the AEW title the big one. Wyatt is better off waiting until AEW are ready.
Echo what's been said above, there is only a limited number of main event slots, which is why big names from NXT get lost in the shuffle. Hopefully Hit Row are the next to disappear!
WCW had a similar issue. Parking my issues with Bret's attitude (pun not intended) he also came with Bulldog and Neidhart. What do you do with those? Likewise Jannetty also got signed and i can't remember him doing anything other than being in a battle royale at Slamboree '98.🤷🏻♂️
Punk seems to be more of a commentator than a wrestler, Cole seems to be lost in the Elite like Henning in the NWO (both having great matches but not much else), Danielson and Ruby are straight in the main event but where do they go from there? If they win the belts does it make AEW look inferior to WWE, if they lose do they lose their credibility? Where do Wyatt and Braun fit in?
Likewise with the WCW comparison they need to develop their own stars and not have former WWE employees pushing them down the card.
Impact is a joke. Their world champion called the AEW title the big one. Wyatt is better off waiting until AEW are ready.
It's really difficult when they don't have any other real source of income.
Braun is a classic really. You bring him in destroys a load of baby face jobbers attacks the baby face champion gets a count out victory or something, then loses the big rematch 123. Then what do you do with him? Put him in the mid card in a dress as a comedy character?
Intresting what they do with Miro next.
The big thing over the next year is not who AEW sign, it's who they don't and if anyone jumps the other way.
Becky Lynch is a terrible heel & she cuts a dreadful promo
Her first heel turn a few years ago was superb, especially when she started going after Ronda Rousey (even though we never did get the 1 on 1 match we all wanted).
It was strong enough for her to have an immediate turn back to being a baby face and main-eventing Wrestlemania.
I think she’s great, but like most things in WWE once they realise they’re onto something - they become over-scripted and inorganic.
Becky Lynch is a terrible heel & she cuts a dreadful promo
Her first heel turn a few years ago was superb, especially when she started going after Ronda Rousey (even though we never did get the 1 on 1 match we all wanted).
It was strong enough for her to have an immediate turn back to being a baby face and main-eventing Wrestlemania.
I think she’s great, but like most things in WWE once they realise they’re onto something - they become over-scripted and inorganic.
Yeah I don't know what it is. I thought she was great a couple of years ago, particularly during that feud with Ronda Rousey, but I can't stand her now
Another load of WWE releases today, Eva Marie, Keith Lee, Karrion Kross, Nia Jax and B-Fab among them, these stand out to me because Eva was only just brought back, Lee is a top tier wrestler that could be a world champion in any promotion, Karrion Kross was NXT Champ til very recently, Nia Jax is part of the Samoan wrestling family so has a lot of contacts and "inside people" in WWE, and B-Fab literally just debuted on the main roster this week with Hit Row.
In totally unrelated news, WWE announced major profits this quarter
Another load of WWE releases today, Eva Marie, Keith Lee, Karrion Kross, Nia Jax and B-Fab among them, these stand out to me because Eva was only just brought back, Lee is a top tier wrestler that could be a world champion in any promotion, Karrion Kross was NXT Champ til very recently, Nia Jax is part of the Samoan wrestling family so has a lot of contacts and "inside people" in WWE, and B-Fab literally just debuted on the main roster this week with Hit Row.
In totally unrelated news, WWE announced major profits this quarter
Harry Smith as well, but to paraphrase his dad "he wasn't even there".
Mystified by the B-Fab release. She looked pretty ropey in her match on NXT but she added so much charisma to Hit Row and made them stand out more than just a group of blokes yelling at the camera. I found Hit Row unwatchable for ages when they started but I feel like they found their rhythm with that group dynamic. Mad that they've just torn that up to make Hit Row as generic as possible now. Not really sure why they signed Taya Valkyrie to give her 6 matches then boot her either, but I've given up on trying to understand them. NXT was the only WWE product I really watched anymore and I was already wavering with the 2.0 stuff. Think I might just pack it in now, there's not really much point watching a developmental show where there's no development and a main show where people debut and then are sacked a few weeks later. It's like watching a Charlton squad under Pardew.
Mystified by the B-Fab release. She looked pretty ropey in her match on NXT but she added so much charisma to Hit Row and made them stand out more than just a group of blokes yelling at the camera. I found Hit Row unwatchable for ages when they started but I feel like they found their rhythm with that group dynamic. Mad that they've just torn that up to make Hit Row as generic as possible now. Not really sure why they signed Taya Valkyrie to give her 6 matches then boot her either, but I've given up on trying to understand them. NXT was the only WWE product I really watched anymore and I was already wavering with the 2.0 stuff. Think I might just pack it in now, there's not really much point watching a developmental show where there's no development and a main show where people debut and then are sacked a few weeks later. It's like watching a Charlton squad under Pardew.
I was thinking to myself recently “when was the last time something really interesting/exciting happened on a WWE show?”
The Reigns/Lesnar/Heyman storyline had some intrigue but that has been literally it.
If given the choice I really don’t understand why anyone would put in 4-5 hours a week watching it over AEW. Then again, I guess WWE’s biggest star these days is the “WWE” tag itself.
When's the last time someone came along and just ripped through the whole roster, becoming a monster on an unstoppable run?
Rusev did it when he first started, as did Strowman, but after a while they book them in programs where they try and save grace of both wrestlers, so they lose to eachother in subsequent weeks and it dilutes the product. They also run too many PPVs and therefore don't have enough time to build a story.
Look at AEW and the Hangman Page/Kenny Omega story, they were tag partners over a year ago, they lost the titles and split, and Kenny went on to be Champ whilst Hangman floundered, self doubt crept in and he seemed solace in the Dark Order eventually after shunning them for a time. Now he's full of confidence and ready to face his former ally, now he feels he's stepped himself up to his adversary's level. It's a great story arc and just one of a few AEW have going on, and they take time to build the story up. WWE throws a couple of guys together, gets one of them to make yo mama jokes or insult the other's hair/wife/kids/style and wham bam thank you ma'am we're in a Hell in a Cell match
When's the last time someone came along and just ripped through the whole roster, becoming a monster on an unstoppable run?
Rusev did it when he first started, as did Strowman, but after a while they book them in programs where they try and save grace of both wrestlers, so they lose to eachother in subsequent weeks and it dilutes the product. They also run too many PPVs and therefore don't have enough time to build a story.
Look at AEW and the Hangman Page/Kenny Omega story, they were tag partners over a year ago, they lost the titles and split, and Kenny went on to be Champ whilst Hangman floundered, self doubt crept in and he seemed solace in the Dark Order eventually after shunning them for a time. Now he's full of confidence and ready to face his former ally, now he feels he's stepped himself up to his adversary's level. It's a great story arc and just one of a few AEW have going on, and they take time to build the story up. WWE throws a couple of guys together, gets one of them to make yo mama jokes or insult the other's hair/wife/kids/style and wham bam thank you ma'am we're in a Hell in a Cell match
It’s really baffling. As a company they surely know how to make stars - I mean, that’s basically the main objective of their brand of professional wrestling right? They’ve done it to great effect in the past.
I genuinely watch their shows sometimes and get the impression that they want everything to seem boring and bland. There’s no way in my mind a company who has been at the top of the industry as long as they have be so continually shit without realising it.
But as we’ve heard so many times now, the structure there is a complete mess and sadly it’s Vince who is the one standing in the way of it being what it could be.
When's the last time someone came along and just ripped through the whole roster, becoming a monster on an unstoppable run?
Rusev did it when he first started, as did Strowman, but after a while they book them in programs where they try and save grace of both wrestlers, so they lose to eachother in subsequent weeks and it dilutes the product. They also run too many PPVs and therefore don't have enough time to build a story.
Look at AEW and the Hangman Page/Kenny Omega story, they were tag partners over a year ago, they lost the titles and split, and Kenny went on to be Champ whilst Hangman floundered, self doubt crept in and he seemed solace in the Dark Order eventually after shunning them for a time. Now he's full of confidence and ready to face his former ally, now he feels he's stepped himself up to his adversary's level. It's a great story arc and just one of a few AEW have going on, and they take time to build the story up. WWE throws a couple of guys together, gets one of them to make yo mama jokes or insult the other's hair/wife/kids/style and wham bam thank you ma'am we're in a Hell in a Cell match
It’s really baffling. As a company they surely know how to make stars - I mean, that’s basically the main objective of their brand of professional wrestling right? They’ve done it to great effect in the past.
I genuinely watch their shows sometimes and get the impression that they want everything to seem boring and bland. There’s no way in my mind a company who has been at the top of the industry as long as they have be so continually shit without realising it.
But as we’ve heard so many times now, the structure there is a complete mess and sadly it’s Vince who is the one standing in the way of it being what it could be.
The main objective is to make money. I don't think anymore needs to be said.
The 50/50 booking is deliberate because as @Friend Or Defoe rightly says it works. WWE is making more money than when the Rock and Austin were drawing double, three even four times the TV figures.
You can't book wrestling like it should be booked because no one can "go away". You can do the Rusev/Stroman type booking but what do you do once they get beat by the white meat baby face? Which should be the thing that makes you money.
Page should have been injured, by Omega and the bucks in that stupid multiman tag match they did. The problem is everyone knew exactly why he was going away and almost exactly when he would be back.
I also disagree that Vince knows how to make super stars, he doesn’t and never has. What he does know is how to sell what does work. He never has had a clue how or why things do work because he has no outside terms of reference.
For the record i'm utterly confused that WWE is so successful producing awful TV. That said Reigns is superb and i've wanted Big E to get a monster push before he was in New Day. I also prefer this era to the Diva search John Cena days.
For the record i'm utterly confused that WWE is so successful producing awful TV. That said Reigns is superb and i've wanted Big E to get a monster push before he was in New Day. I also prefer this era to the Diva search John Cena days.
Same reason McDonald's are successful producing awful burgers.
The WWE/F have never, consistently, had the best in ring product (when there has been any semi serious competition).
If you think that 50/50 booking is weird, wait until you hear about WWE sports betting. That’s right, there are actual sportsbook operators out there who will take a bet on a predetermined reality show. Why? No one knows. Is it legit? It sure is. Here’s the kicker, though — you won’t find a single sport betting place in the US offering this.
Oh, no. It’s the European sportsbook operators that often offer this type of betting. How do I know this? I used to work in the industry and this subject came up around the water cooler. The lad who told us this was dead set on the idea that WWE betting is a legit idea and that “it will only become more popular in the future”.
No joke. If you ask me, you have to be a special kind of dingus to bet on a predetermined TV show. Especially when they’re doing the 50/50 booking. I’d like to find these people and literally force them to read any basic gambling guide. Even something as generic as this https://www.nodepositdaily.com/features/guide-to-gambling/ could point out the flaws in their ways. Betting on WWE....silly geese, the lot.
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WCW had a similar issue. Parking my issues with Bret's attitude (pun not intended) he also came with Bulldog and Neidhart. What do you do with those? Likewise Jannetty also got signed and i can't remember him doing anything other than being in a battle royale at Slamboree '98.🤷🏻♂️
Punk seems to be more of a commentator than a wrestler, Cole seems to be lost in the Elite like Henning in the NWO (both having great matches but not much else), Danielson and Ruby are straight in the main event but where do they go from there? If they win the belts does it make AEW look inferior to WWE, if they lose do they lose their credibility? Where do Wyatt and Braun fit in?
Likewise with the WCW comparison they need to develop their own stars and not have former WWE employees pushing them down the card.
Impact is a joke. Their world champion called the AEW title the big one. Wyatt is better off waiting until AEW are ready.
Braun is a classic really. You bring him in destroys a load of baby face jobbers attacks the baby face champion gets a count out victory or something, then loses the big rematch 123. Then what do you do with him? Put him in the mid card in a dress as a comedy character?
Intresting what they do with Miro next.
The big thing over the next year is not who AEW sign, it's who they don't and if anyone jumps the other way.
Braun could make you a lot of money once maybe twice. Then what.
It was strong enough for her to have an immediate turn back to being a baby face and main-eventing Wrestlemania.
I think she’s great, but like most things in WWE once they realise they’re onto something - they become over-scripted and inorganic.
It was the biggest pop of the night!
In other news today is the 34th anniversary of one of the strangest matches in wrestling history....Bret Hart vs Tom Magee
In totally unrelated news, WWE announced major profits this quarter
B-Fab….At least give her a chance Ffs!
With that said, I wasn’t really a fan of any of those. Karrion Kross never really did much for me, but Scarlett is brilliant.
The Reigns/Lesnar/Heyman storyline had some intrigue but that has been literally it.
If given the choice I really don’t understand why anyone would put in 4-5 hours a week watching it over AEW. Then again, I guess WWE’s biggest star these days is the “WWE” tag itself.
When's the last time someone came along and just ripped through the whole roster, becoming a monster on an unstoppable run?
Rusev did it when he first started, as did Strowman, but after a while they book them in programs where they try and save grace of both wrestlers, so they lose to eachother in subsequent weeks and it dilutes the product. They also run too many PPVs and therefore don't have enough time to build a story.
Look at AEW and the Hangman Page/Kenny Omega story, they were tag partners over a year ago, they lost the titles and split, and Kenny went on to be Champ whilst Hangman floundered, self doubt crept in and he seemed solace in the Dark Order eventually after shunning them for a time. Now he's full of confidence and ready to face his former ally, now he feels he's stepped himself up to his adversary's level. It's a great story arc and just one of a few AEW have going on, and they take time to build the story up. WWE throws a couple of guys together, gets one of them to make yo mama jokes or insult the other's hair/wife/kids/style and wham bam thank you ma'am we're in a Hell in a Cell match
I genuinely watch their shows sometimes and get the impression that they want everything to seem boring and bland. There’s no way in my mind a company who has been at the top of the industry as long as they have be so continually shit without realising it.
But as we’ve heard so many times now, the structure there is a complete mess and sadly it’s Vince who is the one standing in the way of it being what it could be.
Love a ‘shoot’ style promo every once in a while, and these two are tailor made for that sort of program
You can't book wrestling like it should be booked because no one can "go away". You can do the Rusev/Stroman type booking but what do you do once they get beat by the white meat baby face? Which should be the thing that makes you money.
Page should have been injured, by Omega and the bucks in that stupid multiman tag match they did. The problem is everyone knew exactly why he was going away and almost exactly when he would be back.
I also disagree that Vince knows how to make super stars, he doesn’t and never has. What he does know is how to sell what does work. He never has had a clue how or why things do work because he has no outside terms of reference.
The WWE/F have never, consistently, had the best in ring product (when there has been any semi serious competition).
If you think that 50/50 booking is weird, wait until you hear about WWE sports betting. That’s right, there are actual sportsbook operators out there who will take a bet on a predetermined reality show. Why? No one knows. Is it legit? It sure is. Here’s the kicker, though — you won’t find a single sport betting place in the US offering this.
Oh, no. It’s the European sportsbook operators that often offer this type of betting. How do I know this? I used to work in the industry and this subject came up around the water cooler. The lad who told us this was dead set on the idea that WWE betting is a legit idea and that “it will only become more popular in the future”.
No joke. If you ask me, you have to be a special kind of dingus to bet on a predetermined TV show. Especially when they’re doing the 50/50 booking. I’d like to find these people and literally force them to read any basic gambling guide. Even something as generic as this https://www.nodepositdaily.com/features/guide-to-gambling/ could point out the flaws in their ways. Betting on WWE....silly geese, the lot.