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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited November 2021

    1) what was the upgrade
    2) what was the Kayfabe reason
    3) what was the real reason
    4) do I need to charge my phone


  • CharltonMadrid
    CharltonMadrid Posts: 5,091
    Mr Perfect?
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,097
    If you use your brain, you can see the upgrade in the twitter handle.
    3 was because Blanchard failed a drugs test, no idea for 2. And stand firm on number 4.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,097
    Ranking the 5 best managers in AEW
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    If you use your brain, you can see the upgrade in the twitter handle.
    3 was because Blanchard failed a drugs test, no idea for 2. And stand firm on number 4.
    All correct Bobby had to deal with some "family business" so Tully was out.  That's about as good as the reason we got.  The last ever scheduled Tully and Arn TV/PPV match and it never happened 😢😢
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited November 2021
    "According to Dave, Lars Sullivan and Luchasaurus have been in more 5 star matches than Kurt Angle." 

    John Laurinaitis has two 5 star matches, according to Dave.

    Savage, Angle, Malenko, Hennig, Lesnar have a combined total of zero.
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299


    Hmmm, I still reckon this might be a work. Not sure.  Terrible security if it's genuine 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Gravesend_Addick said:


    Hmmm, I still reckon this might be a work. Not sure.  Terrible security if it's genuine 
    That's 100% a work. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,271
    Gravesend_Addick said:


    Hmmm, I still reckon this might be a work. Not sure.  Terrible security if it's genuine 
    They cut away from it incredibly quickly, didn't acknowledge it on commentary etc and the guy that attacked was a flabby middle aged sad act.

    Definitely not a work
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,097
    Looks legit to me and Seth had a decent guillotine sunked in before the refs jumped in. If it was a work it would have been shown on Raw. Crazy how far he was able to get. 
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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,271
    Also I'm fairly sure Seth Rollins screaming "c'mon boy, come on you bitch, you got a price on me, motherfucker?" Isn't going to fly on a PG show if it was a work. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    Looks legit to me and Seth had a decent guillotine sunked in before the refs jumped in. If it was a work it would have been shown on Raw. Crazy how far he was able to get. 
    If you watch it from another angle Seth has a guillotine locked in and the fan manages to stand up out of it until the ref joins in.  Either it's a work or that fat out of shape "fan" is a decent amateur wrestler.

    Also they took him out back through the fans after just with two security guys.  Why not just kick him out the back door or have him arrested? 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,271
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    Looks legit to me and Seth had a decent guillotine sunked in before the refs jumped in. If it was a work it would have been shown on Raw. Crazy how far he was able to get. 
    If you watch it from another angle Seth has a guillotine locked in and the fan manages to stand up out of it until the ref joins in.  Either it's a work or that fat out of shape "fan" is a decent amateur wrestler.

    Also they took him out back through the fans after just with two security guys.  Why not just kick him out the back door or have him arrested? 
    He was arrested and charged, and they released his real name
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,271
    So apparently the dude that attacked Rollins did it because he believes that Seth Rollins has conned him out of hundreds of dollars over the past 2 years, from the WhatsApp messages he has posted online in the past 24 hours, it's abundantly clear that this guy is not the full ticket and has been catfished and conned by a scam artist. 

    I'm just glad that this guy, who clearly needs help, wasn't carrying a weapon on him or anything like that, as it could have been much, much worse.


    100000000000% not a work
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    sam3110 said:
    So apparently the dude that attacked Rollins did it because he believes that Seth Rollins has conned him out of hundreds of dollars over the past 2 years, from the WhatsApp messages he has posted online in the past 24 hours, it's abundantly clear that this guy is not the full ticket and has been catfished and conned by a scam artist. 

    I'm just glad that this guy, who clearly needs help, wasn't carrying a weapon on him or anything like that, as it could have been much, much worse.


    100000000000% not a work
    Well that's changed my mind 100000000001% a shoot 😁
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    edited November 2021
    The Punk/MJF promo from last night is 1 of the best 2 sided promo's I've ever seen.....In fact, it is the best promo I've ever seen!!!   An absolute masterclass from both men

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPAAKVDDEUU&t=256s
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    The Punk/MJF promo from last night is 1 of the best 2 sided promo's I've ever seen.....In fact, it is the best promo I've ever seen!!!   An absolute masterclass from both men

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPAAKVDDEUU&t=256s
    2 sided promos aren't that common historically are they?  Certainly good ones.

    I love the Rock ones with Austin (especially the gambler), Y2Js debut and the Rock and Jerrico with Ryhno, Booker T and Stephanie.  All though saying they were 2 way is pushing it 

    I can't actually think of a great two way promo, all the best ones are monologues.  
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    "The only way you'll ever lead this company is if you stick around long enough for Tony Khan to have a daughter that you marry"

    Was a personal highlight
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    "The only way you'll ever lead this company is if you stick around long enough for Tony Khan to have a daughter that you marry"

    Was a personal highlight
    There has been a lot of references to "up north" recently. 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    Call me a mark, but I love the WWE digs/shoot comments.

    5-10 years of watching WWE’s sterile, soft programming has left me loving anything that has the slightest edge to it and AEW is delivering. 
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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    edited November 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    The Punk/MJF promo from last night is 1 of the best 2 sided promo's I've ever seen.....In fact, it is the best promo I've ever seen!!!   An absolute masterclass from both men

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPAAKVDDEUU&t=256s
    2 sided promos aren't that common historically are they?  Certainly good ones.

    I love the Rock ones with Austin (especially the gambler), Y2Js debut and the Rock and Jerrico with Ryhno, Booker T and Stephanie.  All though saying they were 2 way is pushing it 

    I can't actually think of a great two way promo, all the best ones are monologues.  
    McMahon and Heyman during the Invasion angle, though admittedly it was largely a one sided tirade from Heyman.

    Austin and McMahon surely must have had a few bangers.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,271
    Most of the Vince/SCSA ones were Austin talking shit about Vince, or Vince trying to put Austin down and then Austin doing something mental like filling VKM's convertible with concrete or hosing him down in beer
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    cafctom said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    The Punk/MJF promo from last night is 1 of the best 2 sided promo's I've ever seen.....In fact, it is the best promo I've ever seen!!!   An absolute masterclass from both men

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPAAKVDDEUU&t=256s
    2 sided promos aren't that common historically are they?  Certainly good ones.

    I love the Rock ones with Austin (especially the gambler), Y2Js debut and the Rock and Jerrico with Ryhno, Booker T and Stephanie.  All though saying they were 2 way is pushing it 

    I can't actually think of a great two way promo, all the best ones are monologues.  
    McMahon and Heyman during the Invasion angle, though admittedly it was largely a one sided tirade from Heyman.

    Austin and McMahon surely must have had a few bangers.
    Did Vince even speak when Heyman cut that promo?   Not that he had to with those facials.  The HBK Brett "sunny days" one?

    There were some good one between Punk and HHH or is that Phil and Paul... 

    Maybe whatculture or someone will do a top ten but I am struggling to think of many that were back and forth, not just one person doing 90% of the talking. 


  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,097
    That was good. As good as MJF is, Punk is a notch better on the mic. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    That was good. As good as MJF is, Punk is a notch better on the mic. 
    Needle dick is no fruity pebbles though 😂😂😂
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    edited November 2021
    AEW have done some really good two sided ones over the last year.

    Kingston/Moxley and Kingston/Punk were really good. 

    MJF/Punk is an absolute dream of a pairing for an angle. Still can’t get my head around the fact MJF is only 24 years old - he’s shockingly good on the mic. 
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,097
    cafctom said:
    AEW have done some really good two sided ones over the last year.

    Kingston/Moxley and Kingston/Punk were really good. 

    MJF/Punk is an absolute dream of a pairing for an angle. Still can’t get my head around the fact MJF is only 24 years old - he’s shockingly good on the mic. 
    I think they could have got another month out of Kingston/Punk.

    Likewise Black v Rhodes felt rushed.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    They need to find a way to build Black back up a bit. Don’t really understand the whole connection with Andrade they are leaning on. 

    Andrade is good in the ring but incredibly bland as a character. Black on the other hand could be a top level guy if handled correctly. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    28 years ago today was Bobby's last RAW taping... Boy makes me feel old. 

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