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Standoff in the Boardroom - New Insights and quotes.
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Carlo?usetobunkin said:Say their name with pride!!, How close did this club come to being destroyed by greed!
We are indeed lucky to have such people as Tracey, Carlo and Olly on our side!0 -
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I think the only real difference between the wrongdoings of MS compared go TN is that we know where the former is & can dig up dirt on him. Obviously MS is a big crook & is the major fraudster on it all, but TN had his eyes on some money too. I'm pretty sure that if TN was from the UK we would have plenty more on him by now - and it wouldn't be pretty. As @PragueAddick says, ADBD was a front & is not what is was purported to be.1
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Agree of course, and it has been especially easy with Southall because he is a narcissist. Everything he does has to be in plain sight as a result. The trouble with TN is not just that he is abroad, but that he is from the Middle East. About as transparent as an off pint of Youngs. It's been relatively easy to assemble a compelling dossier on Florica for example. And this goes for JvS too, because although he has a UK residency (and certain Addicks know where he lives :-) ) it is increasingly clear that his most lucrative business activities which ought to attract scrutiny, are conducted in the ME too.golfaddick said:I think the only real difference between the wrongdoings of MS compared go TN is that we know where the former is & can dig up dirt on him. Obviously MS is a big crook & is the major fraudster on it all, but TN had his eyes on some money too. I'm pretty sure that if TN was from the UK we would have plenty more on him by now - and it wouldn't be pretty. As @PragueAddick says, ADBD was a front & is not what is was purported to be.
I was pondering why exactly Nimer apparently fed back a flow of information to Tracey in particular. It must have been difficult for her to know how to treat it; but what was his motivation, given that he already - we believe - had his payout? My best guess is that he, or more probably JvS, has twigged that Southall's narcissism might be very helpful in deflecting continued attention from the role he, Hirst and Nimer played. That's exactly why I'm posting these remarks. By all means give Southall pelters and seek to hold him to account. Just don't let the others slip away into the murk.6 -
Richard, what does that refer to?PragueAddick said:
Agree of course, and it has been especially easy with Southall because he is a narcissist. Everything he does has to be in plain sight as a result. The trouble with TN is not just that he is abroad, but that he is from the Middle East. About as transparent as an off pint of Youngs. It's been relatively easy to assemble a compelling dossier on Florica for example. And this goes for JvS too, because although he has a UK residency (and certain Addicks know where he lives :-) ) it is increasingly clear that his most lucrative business activities which ought to attract scrutiny, are conducted in the ME too.golfaddick said:I think the only real difference between the wrongdoings of MS compared go TN is that we know where the former is & can dig up dirt on him. Obviously MS is a big crook & is the major fraudster on it all, but TN had his eyes on some money too. I'm pretty sure that if TN was from the UK we would have plenty more on him by now - and it wouldn't be pretty. As @PragueAddick says, ADBD was a front & is not what is was purported to be.
I was pondering why exactly Nimer apparently fed back a flow of information to Tracey in particular. It must have been difficult for her to know how to treat it; but what was his motivation, given that he already - we believe - had his payout? My best guess is that he, or more probably JvS, has twigged that Southall's narcissism might be very helpful in deflecting continued attention from the role he, Hirst and Nimer played. That's exactly why I'm posting these remarks. By all means give Southall pelters and seek to hold him to account. Just don't let the others slip away into the murk.0 -
It seems to be widely believed that TS made some payment to Nimer, and possibly others, tomgain control of the business. Among other things there was talk of him suddenly having acquired a flash new top end car.I have absolutely zero independent confirmation of that, to be clear. Nor would I expect it. I am just glad Thomas gained control. However it would be perfectly logical that he made a payment to Nimer, the main shareholder of ESI, for the asset which Thomas was interested in.Rob7Lee said:
Richard, what does that refer to?PragueAddick said:
Agree of course, and it has been especially easy with Southall because he is a narcissist. Everything he does has to be in plain sight as a result. The trouble with TN is not just that he is abroad, but that he is from the Middle East. About as transparent as an off pint of Youngs. It's been relatively easy to assemble a compelling dossier on Florica for example. And this goes for JvS too, because although he has a UK residency (and certain Addicks know where he lives :-) ) it is increasingly clear that his most lucrative business activities which ought to attract scrutiny, are conducted in the ME too.golfaddick said:I think the only real difference between the wrongdoings of MS compared go TN is that we know where the former is & can dig up dirt on him. Obviously MS is a big crook & is the major fraudster on it all, but TN had his eyes on some money too. I'm pretty sure that if TN was from the UK we would have plenty more on him by now - and it wouldn't be pretty. As @PragueAddick says, ADBD was a front & is not what is was purported to be.
I was pondering why exactly Nimer apparently fed back a flow of information to Tracey in particular. It must have been difficult for her to know how to treat it; but what was his motivation, given that he already - we believe - had his payout? My best guess is that he, or more probably JvS, has twigged that Southall's narcissism might be very helpful in deflecting continued attention from the role he, Hirst and Nimer played. That's exactly why I'm posting these remarks. By all means give Southall pelters and seek to hold him to account. Just don't let the others slip away into the murk.0 -
Ah Ok, thought you were referring to something before the TS takeover, yes I imagine something was paid.PragueAddick said:
It seems to be widely believed that TS made some payment to Nimer, and possibly others, tomgain control of the business. Among other things there was talk of him suddenly having acquired a flash new top end car.I have absolutely zero independent confirmation of that, to be clear. Nor would I expect it. I am just glad Thomas gained control. However it would be perfectly logical that he made a payment to Nimer, the main shareholder of ESI, for the asset which Thomas was interested in.Rob7Lee said:
Richard, what does that refer to?PragueAddick said:
Agree of course, and it has been especially easy with Southall because he is a narcissist. Everything he does has to be in plain sight as a result. The trouble with TN is not just that he is abroad, but that he is from the Middle East. About as transparent as an off pint of Youngs. It's been relatively easy to assemble a compelling dossier on Florica for example. And this goes for JvS too, because although he has a UK residency (and certain Addicks know where he lives :-) ) it is increasingly clear that his most lucrative business activities which ought to attract scrutiny, are conducted in the ME too.golfaddick said:I think the only real difference between the wrongdoings of MS compared go TN is that we know where the former is & can dig up dirt on him. Obviously MS is a big crook & is the major fraudster on it all, but TN had his eyes on some money too. I'm pretty sure that if TN was from the UK we would have plenty more on him by now - and it wouldn't be pretty. As @PragueAddick says, ADBD was a front & is not what is was purported to be.
I was pondering why exactly Nimer apparently fed back a flow of information to Tracey in particular. It must have been difficult for her to know how to treat it; but what was his motivation, given that he already - we believe - had his payout? My best guess is that he, or more probably JvS, has twigged that Southall's narcissism might be very helpful in deflecting continued attention from the role he, Hirst and Nimer played. That's exactly why I'm posting these remarks. By all means give Southall pelters and seek to hold him to account. Just don't let the others slip away into the murk.0 -
Prague, I'm amazed there has not been much more dirt on Southall. The only real bit I know of was the shop lifting incident from his Woolworths days. Tell me there's more....please.0
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Yes that was all I meant. But,an open question remains, which of those fee invoices actually got paid out? It seems clear that JvS was, for whatever reason, due to pass some fee money in his name, back to Nimer.Rob7Lee said:
Ah Ok, thought you were referring to something before the TS takeover, yes I imagine something was paid.PragueAddick said:
It seems to be widely believed that TS made some payment to Nimer, and possibly others, tomgain control of the business. Among other things there was talk of him suddenly having acquired a flash new top end car.I have absolutely zero independent confirmation of that, to be clear. Nor would I expect it. I am just glad Thomas gained control. However it would be perfectly logical that he made a payment to Nimer, the main shareholder of ESI, for the asset which Thomas was interested in.Rob7Lee said:
Richard, what does that refer to?PragueAddick said:
Agree of course, and it has been especially easy with Southall because he is a narcissist. Everything he does has to be in plain sight as a result. The trouble with TN is not just that he is abroad, but that he is from the Middle East. About as transparent as an off pint of Youngs. It's been relatively easy to assemble a compelling dossier on Florica for example. And this goes for JvS too, because although he has a UK residency (and certain Addicks know where he lives :-) ) it is increasingly clear that his most lucrative business activities which ought to attract scrutiny, are conducted in the ME too.golfaddick said:I think the only real difference between the wrongdoings of MS compared go TN is that we know where the former is & can dig up dirt on him. Obviously MS is a big crook & is the major fraudster on it all, but TN had his eyes on some money too. I'm pretty sure that if TN was from the UK we would have plenty more on him by now - and it wouldn't be pretty. As @PragueAddick says, ADBD was a front & is not what is was purported to be.
I was pondering why exactly Nimer apparently fed back a flow of information to Tracey in particular. It must have been difficult for her to know how to treat it; but what was his motivation, given that he already - we believe - had his payout? My best guess is that he, or more probably JvS, has twigged that Southall's narcissism might be very helpful in deflecting continued attention from the role he, Hirst and Nimer played. That's exactly why I'm posting these remarks. By all means give Southall pelters and seek to hold him to account. Just don't let the others slip away into the murk.0 -
oohaahmortimer said:
It’s the sheer front and audacity of it all , swanning in giving it the big one , helping himself to way over the top funds in a completely classless way (chairman parking spot bellend) whilst bluffing that all is good etc .AFKABartram said:
That’s where I am. And to top Meire so quickly is some goingcafctom said:I don't think there is anyone associated with Charlton past or present that I despise more than MS.A genuine pisstake out of us all, shameless bastard
Whilst sleeping easy at night, without any conscience.
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Don't think that is clear at all. One email is all the evidence there is that I have seen and even that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.PragueAddick said:
Yes that was all I meant. But,an open question remains, which of those fee invoices actually got paid out? It seems clear that JvS was, for whatever reason, due to pass some fee money in his name, back to Nimer.Rob7Lee said:
Ah Ok, thought you were referring to something before the TS takeover, yes I imagine something was paid.PragueAddick said:
It seems to be widely believed that TS made some payment to Nimer, and possibly others, tomgain control of the business. Among other things there was talk of him suddenly having acquired a flash new top end car.I have absolutely zero independent confirmation of that, to be clear. Nor would I expect it. I am just glad Thomas gained control. However it would be perfectly logical that he made a payment to Nimer, the main shareholder of ESI, for the asset which Thomas was interested in.Rob7Lee said:
Richard, what does that refer to?PragueAddick said:
Agree of course, and it has been especially easy with Southall because he is a narcissist. Everything he does has to be in plain sight as a result. The trouble with TN is not just that he is abroad, but that he is from the Middle East. About as transparent as an off pint of Youngs. It's been relatively easy to assemble a compelling dossier on Florica for example. And this goes for JvS too, because although he has a UK residency (and certain Addicks know where he lives :-) ) it is increasingly clear that his most lucrative business activities which ought to attract scrutiny, are conducted in the ME too.golfaddick said:I think the only real difference between the wrongdoings of MS compared go TN is that we know where the former is & can dig up dirt on him. Obviously MS is a big crook & is the major fraudster on it all, but TN had his eyes on some money too. I'm pretty sure that if TN was from the UK we would have plenty more on him by now - and it wouldn't be pretty. As @PragueAddick says, ADBD was a front & is not what is was purported to be.
I was pondering why exactly Nimer apparently fed back a flow of information to Tracey in particular. It must have been difficult for her to know how to treat it; but what was his motivation, given that he already - we believe - had his payout? My best guess is that he, or more probably JvS, has twigged that Southall's narcissism might be very helpful in deflecting continued attention from the role he, Hirst and Nimer played. That's exactly why I'm posting these remarks. By all means give Southall pelters and seek to hold him to account. Just don't let the others slip away into the murk.
I don't think Nimer was a saint, far from it. He had a lot to answer for and I'm glad he's gone but as I have PROVED Southall doctored the "evidence" he leaked to suit his own agenda.
Just as you refused to believe that Mahail could possibly speak good English until the video interview he did, you need to be more sceptical about the information you have, question both its source and its reliability. Otherwise you are doing Southall's work for him10 -
He even nicked the furniture from the Thames side furnished flat the club rented for him.carly burn said:Prague, I'm amazed there has not been much more dirt on Southall. The only real bit I know of was the shop lifting incident from his Woolworths days. Tell me there's more....please.3 -
He actually nicked the furniture from the flat? How low can this man stoop?0
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If that's the case then let's hope the landlords have sent out the dogscharltonnick said:
He even nicked the furniture from the Thames side furnished flat the club rented for him.carly burn said:Prague, I'm amazed there has not been much more dirt on Southall. The only real bit I know of was the shop lifting incident from his Woolworths days. Tell me there's more....please.0 -
Trouble is the flat, like everything else, was charged to CAFC so the club was liable.eastterrace6168 said:
If that's the case then let's hope the landlords have sent out the dogscharltonnick said:
He even nicked the furniture from the Thames side furnished flat the club rented for him.carly burn said:Prague, I'm amazed there has not been much more dirt on Southall. The only real bit I know of was the shop lifting incident from his Woolworths days. Tell me there's more....please.
But remember he "deserved" that furniture : - (0 -
I repeat what I said in my previous post ... how has he got away with all he did at our club ... truly pisses me off.4
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Didn't Sandgaard even have to pay him off to get rid of him?stonemuse said:I repeat what I said in my previous post ... how has he got away with all he did at our club ... truly pisses me off.
I guess it was the audacity of it all that has allowed him to come in, Make some money and get away relatively unscathed.0 -
"pay off" is misleading. TS bought CAFC (not ESI) from TN (65%) and MS (35%) so it was a sale/purchase not a "pay off". How much was it? Someone suggested £6m (£4m/£2m) but their source was Southall so we can probably ignore that.carly burn said:
Didn't Sandgaard even have to pay him off to get rid of him?stonemuse said:I repeat what I said in my previous post ... how has he got away with all he did at our club ... truly pisses me off.
I guess it was the audacity of it all that has allowed him to come in, Make some money and get away relatively unscathed.
I don't know but the accounts next year might give us a clue.
Now Farnell might have been "paid off". Or at least he wanted to be. Again we don't know if TS settled with Farnell, who most likely DID put money into the club over the summer and if so for how much. Farnell has gone silent but TS hasn't stopped putting the boot in about him or Southall.
Remember TS signed off the article in the OP being published.1 -
In that case @Henry Irving the club needs to send out the dogsHenry Irving said:
Trouble is the flat, like everything else, was charged to CAFC so the club was liable.eastterrace6168 said:
If that's the case then let's hope the landlords have sent out the dogscharltonnick said:
He even nicked the furniture from the Thames side furnished flat the club rented for him.carly burn said:Prague, I'm amazed there has not been much more dirt on Southall. The only real bit I know of was the shop lifting incident from his Woolworths days. Tell me there's more....please.
But remember he "deserved" that furniture : - (0 -
It pisses me off too but I have moved on. The club has been saved and while things are far from perfect it's just on the field stuff we can reasonably moan about.stonemuse said:I repeat what I said in my previous post ... how has he got away with all he did at our club ... truly pisses me off.
And where would many Charlton fans be without something to moan about : - )3 -
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On what basis? A CAFC director (MS) signed a contract for a service for CAFC.eastterrace6168 said:
In that case @Henry Irving the club needs to send out the dogsHenry Irving said:
Trouble is the flat, like everything else, was charged to CAFC so the club was liable.eastterrace6168 said:
If that's the case then let's hope the landlords have sent out the dogscharltonnick said:
He even nicked the furniture from the Thames side furnished flat the club rented for him.carly burn said:Prague, I'm amazed there has not been much more dirt on Southall. The only real bit I know of was the shop lifting incident from his Woolworths days. Tell me there's more....please.
But remember he "deserved" that furniture : - (
I'm not a lawyer but while the club might have a case for improper use of funds etc etc I would be a lot of work for perhaps little reward.
Then again we have just appointed a lawyer to the board.0 -
I have moved on Henry with Thomas and all he brings to the club, thing is Mouthall is just like that dripping tap that just won't go away until you cut it off at the mains.Henry Irving said:
It pisses me off too but I have moved on. The club has been saved and while things are far from perfect it's just on the field stuff we can reasonably moan about.stonemuse said:I repeat what I said in my previous post ... how has he got away with all he did at our club ... truly pisses me off.
And where would many Charlton fans be without something to moan about : - )
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No real basis Henry, just wrong, and as you say, we have just employed a lawyer, so give him a project maybe, but, as you say, move on, we have toHenry Irving said:
On what basis? A CAFC director (MS) signed a contract for a service for CAFC.eastterrace6168 said:
In that case @Henry Irving the club needs to send out the dogsHenry Irving said:
Trouble is the flat, like everything else, was charged to CAFC so the club was liable.eastterrace6168 said:
If that's the case then let's hope the landlords have sent out the dogscharltonnick said:
He even nicked the furniture from the Thames side furnished flat the club rented for him.carly burn said:Prague, I'm amazed there has not been much more dirt on Southall. The only real bit I know of was the shop lifting incident from his Woolworths days. Tell me there's more....please.
But remember he "deserved" that furniture : - (
I'm not a lawyer but while the club might have a case for improper use of funds etc etc I would be a lot of work for perhaps little reward.
Then again we have just appointed a lawyer to the board.1 -
Oh I’ve definitely moved on ... but still want to see him banged-up and sharing a cell with Charles Bronson using him as his plaything.Henry Irving said:
It pisses me off too but I have moved on. The club has been saved and while things are far from perfect it's just on the field stuff we can reasonably moan about.stonemuse said:I repeat what I said in my previous post ... how has he got away with all he did at our club ... truly pisses me off.
And where would many Charlton fans be without something to moan about : - )4 -
What about the money that went to his old Woman?
It does beggar belief, but when you consider we had a doddery old chunt like Duchatelet giving him the keys to the cookie jar it's not surprising.
Did Southall realise Duchatelet was that greedy and stupid or did he just get lucky?0 -
Plaything? I want Bronson to be in a very bad mood...stonemuse said:
Oh I’ve definitely moved on ... but still want to see him banged-up and sharing a cell with Charles Bronson using him as his plaything.Henry Irving said:
It pisses me off too but I have moved on. The club has been saved and while things are far from perfect it's just on the field stuff we can reasonably moan about.stonemuse said:I repeat what I said in my previous post ... how has he got away with all he did at our club ... truly pisses me off.
And where would many Charlton fans be without something to moan about : - )
So it's
MS
CF
KM
AP
ID
My top 5. But as you say move on.
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charltonnick said:
He even nicked the furniture from the Thames side furnished flat the club rented for him.carly burn said:Prague, I'm amazed there has not been much more dirt on Southall. The only real bit I know of was the shop lifting incident from his Woolworths days. Tell me there's more....please.F*** me, that is disgraceful.An absolutely shocking human being.
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stonemuse said:I repeat what I said in my previous post ... how has he got away with all he did at our club ... truly pisses me off.
Violence is never the answer, there is always exceptions to the rule however.
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No he was told that a fella from the UAE was connected to the rich folk over there and was minted. He then instructed Matt Hand To Cock to do the due diligence:)carly burn said:What about the money that went to his old Woman?
It does beggar belief, but when you consider we had a doddery old chunt like Duchatelet giving him the keys to the cookie jar it's not surprising.
Did Southall realise Duchatelet was that greedy and stupid or did he just get lucky?0 -
Hear he didn't hang around for a shave.Valley11 said:The haircut story makes you sick to your stomach. And the six figure extension to the directors box. How the hell was he allowed to do what he did?
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