For all the moneyball bollox spouted on here what did he do? He spoke to two people who actually worked with the guy as well as having watched him play.
Data has its place and I'm pleased we're using it but the human, unquantifiable, element is vital.
The trick is balancing the two, not seeing often subjective data as somehow pure or better.
Tbf I think Paul Mullin is worth a punt on a free and for the right wage, if we could get him on a 2-3 year contract I would take him. He could either replicate last season's form and storm the league or be an option off of the bench, if we go up or stay in the division I am sure he would have takers.
Certainly not if we still have Ronnie.
I agree with this. I'd definitely take a punt on Mullin but having him and Schwartz as two of the four is a risk I wouldn't want to take. If we're serious about winning this league, or even fighting for promotion, we need someone a bit more proven to compete with Stockley. I personally want someone who can hold the ball up if we're going to play 433. Mullin would be a decent replacement for Schwartz though if he goes.
But Mullin wants to move back up north with Bolton his likey destination
Tbf I think Paul Mullin is worth a punt on a free and for the right wage, if we could get him on a 2-3 year contract I would take him. He could either replicate last season's form and storm the league or be an option off of the bench, if we go up or stay in the division I am sure he would have takers.
Certainly not if we still have Ronnie.
Why would that matter? Last season we had Chuks, Ronnie, Washington, most seasons we have 3-4 strikers, as long as he could be fit into the budget I don't see the harm. It could have finally clicked for him and we could reap the rewards or he's a one season wonder, we take the risk and send him out. For a fee I would say no but on a free and what you would imagine would be low wages I don't see why not
So you would happily go into the season with
Stockley Washington Massive gamble Ronnie
As your 4 strikers?
No, I'd be adding a fifth striker. A young, fast whippersnapper (akin to Karlan Grant).
At the moment we only have 3 strikers, one of which (Schwartz) is untried & untested. I think Ronnie will come good but there is no certainty and we need a proven goalscorer, especially one that is not over 6ft tall
I wouldn't want Lapado, already got Stockers. Eisa would fit this team like a glove imo, would be the perfect link for Stockley and the midfield if we are gonna play a 4231. He's a runner and holds the ball well, if the price was right I would be very happy with him.
There's so many good players in this league, I know it's easier said than done and it's not my money but around 2.5-3 mill and you could buy such a good squad in this league that could be championship ready
Tbf I think Paul Mullin is worth a punt on a free and for the right wage, if we could get him on a 2-3 year contract I would take him. He could either replicate last season's form and storm the league or be an option off of the bench, if we go up or stay in the division I am sure he would have takers.
Certainly not if we still have Ronnie.
I agree with this. I'd definitely take a punt on Mullin but having him and Schwartz as two of the four is a risk I wouldn't want to take. If we're serious about winning this league, or even fighting for promotion, we need someone a bit more proven to compete with Stockley. I personally want someone who can hold the ball up if we're going to play 433. Mullin would be a decent replacement for Schwartz though if he goes.
But Mullin wants to move back up north with Bolton his likey destination
Reading between the lines what NA and SG are saying would suggest the next few deals will be players who are out of contract on Wednesday ….. we may already have a couple lined up for announcement on Thursday
Yeah, of course, because you can’t sign them or announce them until they are out of contract .....I’m amazed we managed to sign and announce MacGillivray today.
Reading between the lines what NA and SG are saying would suggest the next few deals will be players who are out of contract on Wednesday ….. we may already have a couple lined up for announcement on Thursday
Wednesday has no more bearing on a player signing than last Tuesday, Thursday 3rd June or Monday 10th July.
I will until a semi official source confirms our interest in Jack Tucker before getting all giddy about it. Still think he ends up getting a move to the Championship.
@ButtleJR seemed pretty confident this morning, has been right, and admittedly wrong, before.
But more often right.
Thanks mate, wasn't me that said anything earlier about tucker was my dad haha. I only pass on info I'm given and this isn't always going to be spot on. However, when have I been wrong?😉
Reading between the lines what NA and SG are saying would suggest the next few deals will be players who are out of contract on Wednesday ….. we may already have a couple lined up for announcement on Thursday
What lines are you reading between? I firmly believe we have some lined up but I 100% believe they aren't saving them for some arbitrary date. Whether it's Thursday, Saturday, clubs birthday, new shirt sponsor, Christmas, new years or the 4th of July.
They get announced when they or done or as close as possible
Tbf I think Paul Mullin is worth a punt on a free and for the right wage, if we could get him on a 2-3 year contract I would take him. He could either replicate last season's form and storm the league or be an option off of the bench, if we go up or stay in the division I am sure he would have takers.
Certainly not if we still have Ronnie.
Why would that matter? Last season we had Chuks, Ronnie, Washington, most seasons we have 3-4 strikers, as long as he could be fit into the budget I don't see the harm. It could have finally clicked for him and we could reap the rewards or he's a one season wonder, we take the risk and send him out. For a fee I would say no but on a free and what you would imagine would be low wages I don't see why not
So you would happily go into the season with
Stockley Washington Massive gamble Ronnie
As your 4 strikers?
No, I'd be adding a fifth striker. A young, fast whippersnapper (akin to Karlan Grant).
At the moment we only have 3 strikers, one of which (Schwartz) is untried & untested. I think Ronnie will come good but there is no certainty and we need a proven goalscorer, especially one that is not over 6ft tall
Out of a squad of 20 you would have 5 strikers? Doesn't leave much wiggle room, when have we ever had 5 first team strikers?
Under the salary cap rules the squad size was 22 last year & supposed to be 21 for this season & 20 next season. The salary cap has now gone. I'm not sure if the squad sizes have also gone but I thought I read that they had, or at least the EFL were considering changing them.
But yes, in a squad of 21 I would have 5 strikers. They are they guys that win you games. If 1 gets injured (like Taylor did) and then 1 is off form, or suspended having just 2 left doesn't really get you anywhere.
Obviously the term "striker" can be interchangable with the term "winger" - but I would prefer at least 4 main strikers & another player who can do both - a bit like Grant did.
Tbf I think Paul Mullin is worth a punt on a free and for the right wage, if we could get him on a 2-3 year contract I would take him. He could either replicate last season's form and storm the league or be an option off of the bench, if we go up or stay in the division I am sure he would have takers.
Certainly not if we still have Ronnie.
Why would that matter? Last season we had Chuks, Ronnie, Washington, most seasons we have 3-4 strikers, as long as he could be fit into the budget I don't see the harm. It could have finally clicked for him and we could reap the rewards or he's a one season wonder, we take the risk and send him out. For a fee I would say no but on a free and what you would imagine would be low wages I don't see why not
So you would happily go into the season with
Stockley Washington Massive gamble Ronnie
As your 4 strikers?
No, I'd be adding a fifth striker. A young, fast whippersnapper (akin to Karlan Grant).
At the moment we only have 3 strikers, one of which (Schwartz) is untried & untested. I think Ronnie will come good but there is no certainty and we need a proven goalscorer, especially one that is not over 6ft tall
Out of a squad of 20 you would have 5 strikers? Doesn't leave much wiggle room, when have we ever had 5 first team strikers?
Under the salary cap rules the squad size was 22 last year & supposed to be 21 for this season & 20 next season. The salary cap has now gone. I'm not sure if the squad sizes have also gone but I thought I read that they had, or at least the EFL were considering changing them.
But yes, in a squad of 21 I would have 5 strikers. They are they guys that win you games. If 1 gets injured (like Taylor did) and then 1 is off form, or suspended having just 2 left doesn't really get you anywhere.
Obviously the term "striker" can be interchangable with the term "winger" - but I would prefer at least 4 main strikers & another player who can do both - a bit like Grant did.
If one is an U21 he doesn't count in the squad numbers anyway
Tbf I think Paul Mullin is worth a punt on a free and for the right wage, if we could get him on a 2-3 year contract I would take him. He could either replicate last season's form and storm the league or be an option off of the bench, if we go up or stay in the division I am sure he would have takers.
Certainly not if we still have Ronnie.
Why would that matter? Last season we had Chuks, Ronnie, Washington, most seasons we have 3-4 strikers, as long as he could be fit into the budget I don't see the harm. It could have finally clicked for him and we could reap the rewards or he's a one season wonder, we take the risk and send him out. For a fee I would say no but on a free and what you would imagine would be low wages I don't see why not
So you would happily go into the season with
Stockley Washington Massive gamble Ronnie
As your 4 strikers?
No, I'd be adding a fifth striker. A young, fast whippersnapper (akin to Karlan Grant).
At the moment we only have 3 strikers, one of which (Schwartz) is untried & untested. I think Ronnie will come good but there is no certainty and we need a proven goalscorer, especially one that is not over 6ft tall
Out of a squad of 20 you would have 5 strikers? Doesn't leave much wiggle room, when have we ever had 5 first team strikers?
Under the salary cap rules the squad size was 22 last year & supposed to be 21 for this season & 20 next season. The salary cap has now gone. I'm not sure if the squad sizes have also gone but I thought I read that they had, or at least the EFL were considering changing them.
But yes, in a squad of 21 I would have 5 strikers. They are they guys that win you games. If 1 gets injured (like Taylor did) and then 1 is off form, or suspended having just 2 left doesn't really get you anywhere.
Obviously the term "striker" can be interchangable with the term "winger" - but I would prefer at least 4 main strikers & another player who can do both - a bit like Grant did.
Haven't we already got that in DJ?
Its still 20, but I suspect it will change and hopefully be abolished.
Tbf I think Paul Mullin is worth a punt on a free and for the right wage, if we could get him on a 2-3 year contract I would take him. He could either replicate last season's form and storm the league or be an option off of the bench, if we go up or stay in the division I am sure he would have takers.
Certainly not if we still have Ronnie.
Why would that matter? Last season we had Chuks, Ronnie, Washington, most seasons we have 3-4 strikers, as long as he could be fit into the budget I don't see the harm. It could have finally clicked for him and we could reap the rewards or he's a one season wonder, we take the risk and send him out. For a fee I would say no but on a free and what you would imagine would be low wages I don't see why not
So you would happily go into the season with
Stockley Washington Massive gamble Ronnie
As your 4 strikers?
No, I'd be adding a fifth striker. A young, fast whippersnapper (akin to Karlan Grant).
At the moment we only have 3 strikers, one of which (Schwartz) is untried & untested. I think Ronnie will come good but there is no certainty and we need a proven goalscorer, especially one that is not over 6ft tall
Out of a squad of 20 you would have 5 strikers? Doesn't leave much wiggle room, when have we ever had 5 first team strikers?
Under the salary cap rules the squad size was 22 last year & supposed to be 21 for this season & 20 next season. The salary cap has now gone. I'm not sure if the squad sizes have also gone but I thought I read that they had, or at least the EFL were considering changing them.
But yes, in a squad of 21 I would have 5 strikers. They are they guys that win you games. If 1 gets injured (like Taylor did) and then 1 is off form, or suspended having just 2 left doesn't really get you anywhere.
Obviously the term "striker" can be interchangable with the term "winger" - but I would prefer at least 4 main strikers & another player who can do both - a bit like Grant did.
Haven't we already got that in DJ?
Its still 20, but I suspect it will change and hopefully be abolished.
I will until a semi official source confirms our interest in Jack Tucker before getting all giddy about it. Still think he ends up getting a move to the Championship.
@ButtleJR seemed pretty confident this morning, has been right, and admittedly wrong, before.
But more often right.
Thanks mate, wasn't me that said anything earlier about tucker was my dad haha. I only pass on info I'm given and this isn't always going to be spot on. However, when have I been wrong?😉
So are you now saying your old man was wrong on this occasion and that your still always normally right ?!
I will until a semi official source confirms our interest in Jack Tucker before getting all giddy about it. Still think he ends up getting a move to the Championship.
@ButtleJR seemed pretty confident this morning, has been right, and admittedly wrong, before.
But more often right.
Thanks mate, wasn't me that said anything earlier about tucker was my dad haha. I only pass on info I'm given and this isn't always going to be spot on. However, when have I been wrong?😉
So are you now saying your old man was wrong on this occasion and that your still always normally right ?!
No, he didn't say anything was definite. He's a player we're apparently trying for. Don't believe it to be far along though. Sounds as if we've got some tough competition, but he's local.
This is the third transfer window under TS and so far our net transfer spend in his reign is -£1.7M. I am now starting to enter “show me” mode. Many here might be fine with lots of frees from other clubs but we are not going up with that strategy, imho. TS talked a lot of game about promotion but I want to start seeing him back that up with actual money spent. The guitar thing only gets so far with me, sorry.
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As ever Steve Gallen is the man to listen to
For all the moneyball bollox spouted on here what did he do? He spoke to two people who actually worked with the guy as well as having watched him play.
Data has its place and I'm pleased we're using it but the human, unquantifiable, element is vital.
The trick is balancing the two, not seeing often subjective data as somehow pure or better.
I don’t know if this spending is manageable for their new owners but if they get him & Fraser they will be looking very strong.
There's so many good players in this league, I know it's easier said than done and it's not my money but around 2.5-3 mill and you could buy such a good squad in this league that could be championship ready
Although he was pictured training with MK Dons today, so perhaps Jarvo is making it all up.
They get announced when they or done or as close as possible
But yes, in a squad of 21 I would have 5 strikers. They are they guys that win you games. If 1 gets injured (like Taylor did) and then 1 is off form, or suspended having just 2 left doesn't really get you anywhere.
Obviously the term "striker" can be interchangable with the term "winger" - but I would prefer at least 4 main strikers & another player who can do both - a bit like Grant did.
Boyle assisted 6, Famewo assisted 1
Boyle averaged 0.5 key passes a game, Famewo had 0.1
Boyle averaged 48 passes per game, Famewo averaged 38
Boyle averaged 69% pass completion, Famewo 70%
Absolute nonsense from that kid. Wouldn’t surprise me if he just looks at Football Manager.
Its still 20, but I suspect it will change and hopefully be abolished.
Why doesn't a post just disappear if you make a cock up and want to delete it, the amount of full stops I have seen, including mine