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George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142
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Remind me the last that happened please.It always brings a smileDyerConsequences said:Not saying they won't be top half but there's 42 games to go. Let's not forget there have been teams top in December that have gone on to get relegated.
Bit early to start calling out people's end of season predictions.6 -
Kips said:
Remind me the last that happened please.It always brings a smileDyerConsequences said:Not saying they won't be top half but there's 42 games to go. Let's not forget there have been teams top in December that have gone on to get relegated.
Bit early to start calling out people's end of season predictions.
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Interesting to see that 4 of the top 6 went on to end up finishing in the bottom half, including the top 3.0
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That's a whooshDyerConsequences said:
3 days ago we were on our way to 138 points, now we're only going to get a lowly 103.5. Things change quickly.Redhenry said:
I agree with you there at 2.5 points per game would give them 115 pointsthenewbie said:
With respect.... it hardly makes any difference. Either they have a massive budget but for other reasons couldn't convince their targets (whether that's Parkinson or something else) OR they never had the money in the first place.Redhenry said:
You laugh pal but it's a fact, been told by more than one agent!MintoHumbugs said:
And too many Wrexham lovers on here.Redhenry said:
Corr there are some real Wrexham haters on here, they have hardly used any of their budget yet...DyerConsequences said:
Is it 'Safe' to say that? The team that were top of the table after 4 games last season were Cambridge. They went on to finish 19th.Redhenry said:Safe to say they won't be bottom half
Port Vale were 2nd after 8 games, they got relegated.
Budget ? Parkinson was quoted as saying they had enough budget for one more signing on transfer deadline day after spending an underwhelming amount on players. . Comments like Wrexham have a budget to match Birmingham ( which have been on this site ) are laughable.
Either way they really didn't do much to build a really good, promotion worthy L1 team and while they probably will be okay I would personally be very surprised if they can hold their current form for the whole season.
Hey I would love it if we smash them, just saying write them off at your peril... 0 -
Yes, but I remember half way through the January window you were still thinking the play offs were on last season.AndyG said:Im very confident that we will finish above Wrexham this season, however that doesnt negate my view that GD was badly treated by the club and that he still gets into our current starting team if he was still here. Its all water under the bridge now so onwards and upwards etc but people who are claiming we have upgraded are seriously wrong imo0 -
See we were the draw specialists back then.DyerConsequences said:Kips said:
Remind me the last that happened please.It always brings a smileDyerConsequences said:Not saying they won't be top half but there's 42 games to go. Let's not forget there have been teams top in December that have gone on to get relegated.
Bit early to start calling out people's end of season predictions.0 -
Why Scott proven wrong when there’s recruitment as we told many times is down to Jones to pick his targets .. so far our additions have been excellent and vast improvement that’s gone beforeSouthLincsAddick said:I think Andy Scott is once again is proven wrong (Appleton, Ahadme etc..). If Dobbo is supposed to be average why was he picked up by one of the leagues most ambitious and well funded teams. He looked great in a slightly more attacking midfielder position at the weekend, picked up an assist too.1 -
So who do you leave out .. the only position he can play his holding role and no way he would replace Coventry ….. our problems towards end of last season was the fact that we were trying to play Anderson and Dobson as attacking mid which failed miserablyAndyG said:Im very confident that we will finish above Wrexham this season, however that doesnt negate my view that GD was badly treated by the club and that he still gets into our current starting team if he was still here. Its all water under the bridge now so onwards and upwards etc but people who are claiming we have upgraded are seriously wrong imo0 -
ever the optimist me mate I cant deny it lolbolloxbolder said:
Yes, but I remember half way through the January window you were still thinking the play offs were on last season.AndyG said:Im very confident that we will finish above Wrexham this season, however that doesnt negate my view that GD was badly treated by the club and that he still gets into our current starting team if he was still here. Its all water under the bridge now so onwards and upwards etc but people who are claiming we have upgraded are seriously wrong imo1 -
And the other way round teams in the bottom eight around November made the play offs C Palace and Oxford to name twoKips said:
Remind me the last that happened please.It always brings a smileDyerConsequences said:Not saying they won't be top half but there's 42 games to go. Let's not forget there have been teams top in December that have gone on to get relegated.
Bit early to start calling out people's end of season predictions.0 -
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What, when the SMT have said themselves that Scott identifies a player and then Jones has to agree (apart from Jones’s ex player mates I presume). Scott did hire Appleton after all, unless you’re going to try and tell me Appleton wasn’t that bad really.RonnieMoore said:
Why Scott proven wrong when there’s recruitment as we told many times is down to Jones to pick his targets .. so far our additions have been excellent and vast improvement that’s gone beforeSouthLincsAddick said:I think Andy Scott is once again is proven wrong (Appleton, Ahadme etc..). If Dobbo is supposed to be average why was he picked up by one of the leagues most ambitious and well funded teams. He looked great in a slightly more attacking midfielder position at the weekend, picked up an assist too.1 -
No, you don't understand. Four games in we are one point behind Wrexham, so we need to be projecting that we won't finish anywhere near the play-offs as we aren't good enough and that Wrexham are definitely getting promoted.AberystwythAddick said:
We’re 4 games into the season it is ridiculous to project a points total at this time.Redhenry said:
I agree with you there at 2.5 points per game would give them 115 pointsthenewbie said:
With respect.... it hardly makes any difference. Either they have a massive budget but for other reasons couldn't convince their targets (whether that's Parkinson or something else) OR they never had the money in the first place.Redhenry said:
You laugh pal but it's a fact, been told by more than one agent!MintoHumbugs said:
And too many Wrexham lovers on here.Redhenry said:
Corr there are some real Wrexham haters on here, they have hardly used any of their budget yet...DyerConsequences said:
Is it 'Safe' to say that? The team that were top of the table after 4 games last season were Cambridge. They went on to finish 19th.Redhenry said:Safe to say they won't be bottom half
Port Vale were 2nd after 8 games, they got relegated.
Budget ? Parkinson was quoted as saying they had enough budget for one more signing on transfer deadline day after spending an underwhelming amount on players. . Comments like Wrexham have a budget to match Birmingham ( which have been on this site ) are laughable.
Either way they really didn't do much to build a really good, promotion worthy L1 team and while they probably will be okay I would personally be very surprised if they can hold their current form for the whole season.
Hey I would love it if we smash them, just saying write them off at your peril...
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Something or someone doesn't have to be bad for their alternative to be good.
People can like Italian food AND French food. Even if you prefer one that doesn't mean you have to hate the other.
So, by the same token, we can think Dobson is a good player and that he did and still could contribute to our team while at the same team feel that our current midfield is strong.
Yet too often on here and in life in general some feel they have to disparage a player or whatever to justify their faith in their preferred choice, rather than accepting that each has his or her virtues.27 -
Yeh, but Dobson is still better than CoventryHenry Irving said:Something or someone doesn't have to be bad for their alternative to be good.
People can like Italian food AND French food. Even if you prefer one that doesn't mean you have to hate the other.
So, by the same token, we can think Dobson is a good player and that he did and still could contribute to our team while at the same team feel that our current midfield is strong.
Yet too often on here and in life in general some feel they have to disparage a player or whatever to justify their faith in their preferred choice, rather than accepting that each has his or her virtues. 3 -
Like Danny Green?Henry Irving said:Something or someone doesn't have to be bad for their alternative to be good.
People can like Italian food AND French food. Even if you prefer one that doesn't mean you have to hate the other.
So, by the same token, we can think Dobson is a good player and that he did and still could contribute to our team while at the same team feel that our current midfield is strong.
Yet too often on here and in life in general some feel they have to disparage a player or whatever to justify their faith in their preferred choice, rather than accepting that each has his or her virtues. 5 -
We only saw just how good Dobbo could be towards the end, after Jones came in. Prior to that he was simply a great defensive "spoiler".
He will flourish at Wrexham. Our loss is their gain.5 -
In Docherty, Berry and Campbell though we’ve got three players who all have plenty of experience at a higher level. Dobson wouldn’t be a guaranteed starter if he was still here, and we haven’t seen Campbell play yet.queensland_addick said:We only saw just how good Dobbo could be towards the end, after Jones came in. Prior to that he was simply a great defensive "spoiler".
He will flourish at Wrexham. Our loss is their gain.
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As is anybody…🤷♂️Karim_myBagheri said:
just like we are far from safe.DyerConsequences said:
Is it 'Safe' to say that? The team that were top of the table after 4 games last season were Cambridge. They went on to finish 19th.Redhenry said:Safe to say they won't be bottom half
Port Vale were 2nd after 8 games, they got relegated.0 -
Nice assist for the winner from a cross today. Well done Dobbo2
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And we still haven’t seen Campbell play yet or much from Docherty either.Scoham said:
In Docherty, Berry and Campbell though we’ve got three players who all have plenty of experience at a higher level. Dobson wouldn’t be a guaranteed starter if he was still here, and we haven’t seen Campbell play yet.queensland_addick said:We only saw just how good Dobbo could be towards the end, after Jones came in. Prior to that he was simply a great defensive "spoiler".
He will flourish at Wrexham. Our loss is their gain.2 -
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Don’t worry our squads better than theirs3
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Would still be our best midfielder, comfortably.
Terribly missed, and I'm not afraid to say it.15 -
He is a perfect player for a Nathan Jones system0
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As the devine poet Joni wrote
"Don't it always seem to go,
That you don't know what you've got till its gone "1 -
I agree, but I’m not writing them off yet.LargeAddick said:
And we still haven’t seen Campbell play yet or much from Docherty either.Scoham said:
In Docherty, Berry and Campbell though we’ve got three players who all have plenty of experience at a higher level. Dobson wouldn’t be a guaranteed starter if he was still here, and we haven’t seen Campbell play yet.queensland_addick said:We only saw just how good Dobbo could be towards the end, after Jones came in. Prior to that he was simply a great defensive "spoiler".
He will flourish at Wrexham. Our loss is their gain.
Dobson didn’t properly show what he could do until Jackson took over from Adkins and put him back in the team.That was in late October, before that point some had decided Dobson was a dud.3 -
He is missed, but he's not better than Coventry.Braziliance said:Would still be our best midfielder, comfortably.
Terribly missed, and I'm not afraid to say it.
Not sure about him vs Berry
He's definitely better than the others we've tried in the number 8 positions2 -
If that table is right why did we Palace and not Stoke in the play offs?DyerConsequences said:Kips said:
Remind me the last that happened please.It always brings a smileDyerConsequences said:Not saying they won't be top half but there's 42 games to go. Let's not forget there have been teams top in December that have gone on to get relegated.
Bit early to start calling out people's end of season predictions.1 -
But she was a stickler when it came to apostrophes. 😉Henry Irving said:As the devine poet Joni wrote
"Don't it always seem to go,
That you don't know what you've got till its gone "
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kinveachyaddick said:
If that table is right why did we Palace and not Stoke in the play offs?DyerConsequences said:Kips said:
Remind me the last that happened please.It always brings a smileDyerConsequences said:Not saying they won't be top half but there's 42 games to go. Let's not forget there have been teams top in December that have gone on to get relegated.
Bit early to start calling out people's end of season predictions.Golfie was in charge of the football league back then and “The League used highest goals scored to rank clubs equal on points rather than goal difference”1 -
If Coventry could just stop keep going backwards, reckon it would improve his affect on a game by about 3 foldLeuth said:
He is missed, but he's not better than Coventry.Braziliance said:Would still be our best midfielder, comfortably.
Terribly missed, and I'm not afraid to say it.
Not sure about him vs Berry
He's definitely better than the others we've tried in the number 8 positions2
