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George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142
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I’m not sure that works as a song.Pelling1993 said:
He's so hunched over when he plays he must be about 5'7 during the gameMendonca In Asdas said:Didn’t know he was 6 foot 1!8 -
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Partly because the people we have used as defensive midfielders aren't really defensive midfielders and have ended up playing there by default.Leuth said:Will absolutely get Championship interest over the summer. We need to convince him we're going places.
He certainly puts a few other defensive midfielders we've recently had into context
He is a specialist1 -
Play George as the midfield anchor and he is the best at that job in the league. The times he has struggled with us and at Sunderland have been when he has been asked to play in the Gilbey role, box to box and providing creativity is not his forte.
Screening the defence is his strength and he is bloody good at it. My POTY atm with Gilbey a close second.2 -
Yes, I guess Big Dazza's role was Destroyer Of Worlds rather than anything so subtle as 'defensive midfielder'2
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I'd agree he's POTY so far - sticks to players like sh*t to a blanket and has good awareness and vision - a real asset1
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Gilbey not remotely close for me. Dobson by an absolute street.Covered_End_Lad said:Play George as the midfield anchor and he is the best at that job in the league. The times he has struggled with us and at Sunderland have been when he has been asked to play in the Gilbey role, box to box and providing creativity is not his forte.
Screening the defence is his strength and he is bloody good at it. My POTY atm with Gilbey a close second.1 -
I think AG is criminally underrated by our fans tbh. He is brilliant.Leuth said:
Gilbey not remotely close for me. Dobson by an absolute street.Covered_End_Lad said:Play George as the midfield anchor and he is the best at that job in the league. The times he has struggled with us and at Sunderland have been when he has been asked to play in the Gilbey role, box to box and providing creativity is not his forte.
Screening the defence is his strength and he is bloody good at it. My POTY atm with Gilbey a close second.13 -
Pratley didn't play there when he was younger though did he?Leuth said:Yes, I guess Big Dazza's role was Destroyer Of Worlds rather than anything so subtle as 'defensive midfielder'
I don't know if its something to do with academies, or something else, but generalist midfielders seem to be like rocking horse shit, it limits the way teams can play and you still end up with players doing "a job".0 -
He's very rated.Covered_End_Lad said:
I think AG is criminally underrated by our fans tbh. He is brilliant.Leuth said:
Gilbey not remotely close for me. Dobson by an absolute street.Covered_End_Lad said:Play George as the midfield anchor and he is the best at that job in the league. The times he has struggled with us and at Sunderland have been when he has been asked to play in the Gilbey role, box to box and providing creativity is not his forte.
Screening the defence is his strength and he is bloody good at it. My POTY atm with Gilbey a close second.
Imo he's a very good ball-carrier who will run fast at defences all day, a shabby passer, a weak tackler and someone who should never, ever shoot from range, in that order.
I think his skillset is more that of a winger than a CM tbh, except his crossing would probably be even worse than the incumbents'.
Still, his energy and drive is probably a net positive in our side. I strongly feel he isn't good enough to start for a promotion team, but he'd be a great option off the bench, especially to run at tired defences.
Dobson on the other hand is a complete midfielder.7 -
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I don't even know where to start in reply to this post. Jesus Christ.Leuth said:
He's very rated.Covered_End_Lad said:
I think AG is criminally underrated by our fans tbh. He is brilliant.Leuth said:
Gilbey not remotely close for me. Dobson by an absolute street.Covered_End_Lad said:Play George as the midfield anchor and he is the best at that job in the league. The times he has struggled with us and at Sunderland have been when he has been asked to play in the Gilbey role, box to box and providing creativity is not his forte.
Screening the defence is his strength and he is bloody good at it. My POTY atm with Gilbey a close second.
Imo he's a very good ball-carrier who will run fast at defences all day, a shabby passer, a weak tackler and someone who should never, ever shoot from range, in that order.
I think his skillset is more that of a winger than a CM tbh, except his crossing would probably be even worse than the incumbents'.
Still, his energy and drive is probably a net positive in our side. I strongly feel he isn't good enough to start for a promotion team, but he'd be a great option off the bench, especially to run at tired defences.
Dobson on the other hand is a complete midfielder.5 -
Agreed - He's deceptively quick and carries the ball better than anyone.Covered_End_Lad said:
I think AG is criminally underrated by our fans tbh. He is brilliant.Leuth said:
Gilbey not remotely close for me. Dobson by an absolute street.Covered_End_Lad said:Play George as the midfield anchor and he is the best at that job in the league. The times he has struggled with us and at Sunderland have been when he has been asked to play in the Gilbey role, box to box and providing creativity is not his forte.
Screening the defence is his strength and he is bloody good at it. My POTY atm with Gilbey a close second.1 -
Yes, which is exactly what I said in my post that apparently can't be replied tojacob_CAFC said:
Agreed - He's deceptively quick and carries the ball better than anyone.Covered_End_Lad said:
I think AG is criminally underrated by our fans tbh. He is brilliant.Leuth said:
Gilbey not remotely close for me. Dobson by an absolute street.Covered_End_Lad said:Play George as the midfield anchor and he is the best at that job in the league. The times he has struggled with us and at Sunderland have been when he has been asked to play in the Gilbey role, box to box and providing creativity is not his forte.
Screening the defence is his strength and he is bloody good at it. My POTY atm with Gilbey a close second.0 -
TBH they are both irreplaceable, without Gilbey we are too one paced and a bit ploddy in midfield.Leuth said:
Gilbey not remotely close for me. Dobson by an absolute street.Covered_End_Lad said:Play George as the midfield anchor and he is the best at that job in the league. The times he has struggled with us and at Sunderland have been when he has been asked to play in the Gilbey role, box to box and providing creativity is not his forte.
Screening the defence is his strength and he is bloody good at it. My POTY atm with Gilbey a close second.
IMO Dobson, Gilbey and JFC would be an outstanding league 1 midfield. Gilbey should play as the most advanced, he is at his best when he can run past the strikers.1 -
Caveat: Gilbey did completely dominate and destroy Ipswich that one time. Showed a few more strings to the bow than usual that game. But generally he's a running and dribbling machine whose passing and tackling is probably inferior to the average League One standard
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I really like AG, but the fact is that he doesn't (well hasn't to date) score or create enough goals. He clearly has the ability, and Saturday's run for the second goal is what he should be doing more of.0
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That was a fresh Gilbey against a tired defence (pushing for an equaliser), which is why he was particularly incisive. As I say, an option we should explore more.randy andy said:I really like AG, but the fact is that he doesn't (well hasn't to date) score or create enough goals. He clearly has the ability, and Saturday's run for the second goal is what he should be doing more of.0 -
Pratley's role for us was 'please try and create some semblance of control in amongst a midfield that has absolutely no idea what it's doing and no interest in finding out either'. I really think Dobson would have struggled in the Bowyer diamond last season because there was never any concept of what the midfield was trying to achieve. We had Gilbey having absolutely no idea where to be, Maddison, Williams or Shinnie trying to create with nothing in front of or behind them, Albie getting lost and JFC trying to find passes for players who weren't moving. In amongst all that Pratley's job was to somehow try and marshal three midfielders who had no idea what to do, which is why he was always haring around everywhere clobbering people before they used the gaps we had. There's a reason we generally got better results when we played Pratley and Watson together, even if it was a war crime. We saw under Adkins how lost Dobson can look without the right instructions, I think he would have been a disaster last season, which says a lot about what we put up with.Leuth said:Yes, I guess Big Dazza's role was Destroyer Of Worlds rather than anything so subtle as 'defensive midfielder'
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Covered_End_Lad said:
I think AG is criminally underrated by our fans tbh. He is brilliant.Leuth said:
Gilbey not remotely close for me. Dobson by an absolute street.Covered_End_Lad said:Play George as the midfield anchor and he is the best at that job in the league. The times he has struggled with us and at Sunderland have been when he has been asked to play in the Gilbey role, box to box and providing creativity is not his forte.
Screening the defence is his strength and he is bloody good at it. My POTY atm with Gilbey a close second.
I agree with you CEL.
Anyone who was at the Ipswich home game for Alex Gilbey's master class missed a treat. After Dobson, Gilbey would always be the next name on the sheet.
I love JJ ( in a football sense !) but I do believe he panicked a tad in dropping Gilbey and when he came on instead of the struggling Lee, the midfield energy and running of Dobson defensively, and the born again athlete that is Morgan chasing every thing down we improved so much and we ended up with a strong 11 on the field with Washington and Gilbey.
The youngster Burstow is a natural goal scorer and is learning his trade in men's football.0 -
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i agree - i like Gilbey and think Lee should be rested instead but apparentkly the thinking behind Gilbey being rested for a bit is that he drifts out of games for long spells - not something i've noticed particualrly although he does seem to be able to go up a gear evey now and thenCovered_End_Lad said:
I think AG is criminally underrated by our fans tbh. He is brilliant.Leuth said:
Gilbey not remotely close for me. Dobson by an absolute street.Covered_End_Lad said:Play George as the midfield anchor and he is the best at that job in the league. The times he has struggled with us and at Sunderland have been when he has been asked to play in the Gilbey role, box to box and providing creativity is not his forte.
Screening the defence is his strength and he is bloody good at it. My POTY atm with Gilbey a close second.1 -
Gilbey has qualities are other midfielders lack, mainly his ability to carry the ball. Against Ipswich he was superb, his best game i've seen for us probably.
However, he doesn't really score (4 in 43 games for us), doesn't assist and is pretty poor without the ball. Our worst culprit at giving away stupid fouls when the opposition isn't going anywhere. Overall I like him, but 'criminally underrated' is absurd to be honest.4 -
3 of those goals came in the only run in the side as the more advanced of the 3.cafcsinger said:Gilbey has qualities are other midfielders lack, mainly his ability to carry the ball. Against Ipswich he was superb, his best game i've seen for us probably.
However, he doesn't really score (4 in 43 games for us), doesn't assist and is pretty poor without the ball. Our worst culprit at giving away stupid fouls when the opposition isn't going anywhere. Overall I like him, but 'criminally underrated' is absurd to be honest.1 -
Agree. Gilbey is a good player but his final ball is poor. Even for Morgan's goal on Saturday, there are players free in the box and Gilbs has hit it straight at the defender. Fortunately it has deflected off him and into Morgan's path.Leuth said:
He's very rated.Covered_End_Lad said:
I think AG is criminally underrated by our fans tbh. He is brilliant.Leuth said:
Gilbey not remotely close for me. Dobson by an absolute street.Covered_End_Lad said:Play George as the midfield anchor and he is the best at that job in the league. The times he has struggled with us and at Sunderland have been when he has been asked to play in the Gilbey role, box to box and providing creativity is not his forte.
Screening the defence is his strength and he is bloody good at it. My POTY atm with Gilbey a close second.
Imo he's a very good ball-carrier who will run fast at defences all day, a shabby passer, a weak tackler and someone who should never, ever shoot from range, in that order.
I think his skillset is more that of a winger than a CM tbh, except his crossing would probably be even worse than the incumbents'.
Still, his energy and drive is probably a net positive in our side. I strongly feel he isn't good enough to start for a promotion team, but he'd be a great option off the bench, especially to run at tired defences.
Dobson on the other hand is a complete midfielder.3 -
Gilbey is the only central midfielder we have who can get away from a player - i think he has to be in our first choice midfield.5
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Dobson
Stockley
Gilbey
Washington
in that order for me (for POTY).The rest have played well for a few matches, and then gone off the boil (or have struggled with injuries like Inniss).0 -
Player of the season by far.0
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When's this lad signing a contract extension? He's brilliant and needs tying down8
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Might stop him getting around the pitch so much.moutuakilla said:When's this lad signing a contract extension? He's brilliant and needs tying down0 -
Said this last week. Need to get him on a longer deal ASAP.moutuakilla said:When's this lad signing a contract extension? He's brilliant and needs tying down1












