A lot of these protesters are they same as those arrested on Monday and released. One of them allegedly lives in run down farmhouse in Wales with no insulation, he would be first in the queue if the goverment gave him a grant to insulate his house, instead of spending money to get from Wales to London to protest why does he not use the money to insulate the house himself. Also why does he travel to London and not protest on the Seven Bridge?
Always does me that they target Joe Public, most of whom agree there's a problem and would be happy with changes in law and legislation to help reduce climate change. If they want to take a bit of direct action, try blocking some of the factories within about a 10 miles radius of Dartford ffs
again, this is more, you can protest, but do it in a way that doesn't get attention or a wider point.
But they're inconveniencing people who aren't able to make a difference. Unless they think doing this will stop people driving. Think these protests are misguided
I would think the aim of the protest is to create public awareness of how quickly climate change is happening.
All the while governments and people do little - or even nothing, climate change is going to accelerate.
Today we may only care about getting to work on time, keeping appointments or even going shopping. But tomorrow, our children's future is going to be impacted greatly by climate change - unless action is taken now.
It's our children's world at stake. Should we care enough to do something about it?
But why do they have to disrupt people going about their day to raise public awareness about insulating homes? There's other ways of doing it, all they have managed to do is p1ss off a lot of people who probably agreed with the original message.
They are in danger of losing all public support, if they haven't already.
It's not everyday, is it? It's one morning.
Maybe a lot of people will be pissed off - but are you really suggesting these people will now disregard rapidly accelerating climate change because they were delayed one morning in their life today?
Any protest of this nature is to make people aware. Newspapers, radio, television, social media are all carrying this news. Pressure will be put on government and big business.
Even Charlton Life is carrying a thread of 120 comments and 2.1K views. For today at least, people are being made aware.
It would be interesting to see how these protestors would be treated in China..............
That’s what I was thinking, not just that, but their population is what 20 x bigger than the Uks, if you were really passionate about the overall problem go to China and kick up a stink, target the bigger countries first, our population is tiny compared to the global population, people with an ideology and too much time on their hands IMO making it worse for their own country.
These people will 100% be on the right side of history when all is said and done
The inconvenience these people are causing will be nothing compared to the "inconvenience" of doing nothing about climate change
But are their protests the most effective? Whilst only a small number in rhe scheme of things, apart from on here, everyone I have spoken to about this is so pised off with them and don't support what they are doing. Especially the person whose long awaited medical procedure was postponed again because the doctor was stuck on the M25.
Personally, I don't think they are going about it the most effective way.
Always does me that they target Joe Public, most of whom agree there's a problem and would be happy with changes in law and legislation to help reduce climate change. If they want to take a bit of direct action, try blocking some of the factories within about a 10 miles radius of Dartford ffs
again, this is more, you can protest, but do it in a way that doesn't get attention or a wider point.
But they're inconveniencing people who aren't able to make a difference. Unless they think doing this will stop people driving. Think these protests are misguided
I would think the aim of the protest is to create public awareness of how quickly climate change is happening.
All the while governments and people do little - or even nothing, climate change is going to accelerate.
Today we may only care about getting to work on time, keeping appointments or even going shopping. But tomorrow, our children's future is going to be impacted greatly by climate change - unless action is taken now.
It's our children's world at stake. Should we care enough to do something about it?
But why do they have to disrupt people going about their day to raise public awareness about insulating homes? There's other ways of doing it, all they have managed to do is p1ss off a lot of people who probably agreed with the original message.
They are in danger of losing all public support, if they haven't already.
It's not everyday, is it? It's one morning.
Maybe a lot of people will be pissed off - but are you really suggesting these people will now disregard rapidly accelerating climate change because they were delayed one morning in their life today?
Any protest of this nature is to make people aware. Newspapers, radio, television, social media are all carrying this news. Pressure will be put on government and big business.
Even Charlton Life is carrying a thread of 120 comments and 2.1K views. For today at least, people are being made aware.
That's the point of this type of protest.
Who said anything about it being everyday? (two morning so far by the way, not one)
It's foolish to think that protesting about insulating homes by blocking major motorways, I guess the busiest in the country, is going to do anything but royally pee people off.
Yes there's a thread on here, mostly people disagreeing with the protest!
I'm not saying people will now disregard climate change, but ExR are losing the support of the general public with stunts like this.
Was gonna insulate my loft this autumn, but I've put it off another year as a direct result of these protests. Anymore, and I'll put it off another year
It would be interesting to see how these protestors would be treated in China..............
Cos we are all big fans of tyrannical autocracies...
Nor am I but unless China, India et al change ( which they won't ) these protests are pointless. China has already said that they will not change anything until at least 2060. Getting people in the UK to insulate their lofts probably won't change much.
It would be interesting to see how these protestors would be treated in China..............
Cos we are all big fans of tyrannical autocracies...
Nor am I but unless China, India et al change ( which they won't ) these protests are pointless. China has already said that they will not change anything until at least 2060. Getting people in the UK to insulate their lofts probably won't change much.
The inside of their houses will be warmer in winter 😉
A lot of these protesters are they same as those arrested on Monday and released. One of them allegedly lives in run down farmhouse in Wales with no insulation, he would be first in the queue if the goverment gave him a grant to insulate his house, instead of spending money to get from Wales to London to protest why does he not use the money to insulate the house himself. Also why does he travel to London and not protest on the Seven Bridge?
It’s actually The Severn Bridge not Seven Dansk A mistake made by many mate….myself included and for a number of years too. Many people also say The River Seven instead of Severn.
A lot of these protesters are they same as those arrested on Monday and released. One of them allegedly lives in run down farmhouse in Wales with no insulation, he would be first in the queue if the goverment gave him a grant to insulate his house, instead of spending money to get from Wales to London to protest why does he not use the money to insulate the house himself. Also why does he travel to London and not protest on the Seven Bridge?
It’s actually The Severn Bridge not Seven Dansk A mistake made by many mate….myself included and for a number of years too. Many people also say The River Seven instead of Severn.
I made the very same mistake for a number of year too. About 7 in all
A lot of these protesters are they same as those arrested on Monday and released. One of them allegedly lives in run down farmhouse in Wales with no insulation, he would be first in the queue if the goverment gave him a grant to insulate his house, instead of spending money to get from Wales to London to protest why does he not use the money to insulate the house himself. Also why does he travel to London and not protest on the Seven Bridge?
It’s actually The Severn Bridge not Seven Dansk A mistake made by many mate….myself included and for a number of years too. Many people also say The River Seven instead of Severn.
Even professional reports make errors, I like this, taken from Kent Online article on the Dartford protests also foget to put th "r" in.
Kent Police has confirmed officers wee at two protests at J1A and 1B of
the motorway where some people are said to have glued their hands to the
road. They have since been arrested a spokesman for the group has confirmed.
A lot of these protesters are they same as those arrested on Monday and released. One of them allegedly lives in run down farmhouse in Wales with no insulation, he would be first in the queue if the goverment gave him a grant to insulate his house, instead of spending money to get from Wales to London to protest why does he not use the money to insulate the house himself. Also why does he travel to London and not protest on the Seven Bridge?
It’s actually The Severn Bridge not Seven Dansk A mistake made by many mate….myself included and for a number of years too. Many people also say The River Seven instead of Severn.
Even professional reports make errors, I like this, taken from Kent Online article on the Dartford protests also foget to put th "r" in.
Kent Police has confirmed officers wee at two protests at J1A and 1B of
the motorway where some people are said to have glued their hands to the
road. They have since been arrested a spokesman for the group has confirmed.
You will find that errors like that, and indeed factual errors, are very common with Kent Online - it’s a shockingly bad site
Reminder: it is possible to condemn protestors without condemning their cause
To be fair that's what nearly everyone has been doing.
Their "cause" and their "demands" are two different things. Their "demand" is net zero by 2025. Luckily they have fuck all chance of their "demands" being met.
Meanwhile, the rest of society can accelerate positive actions that support the focus on climate change without wrecking livelihoods and economies in the process.
Complaining about climate change I believe. So block the roads. Result extra pollution! Stupidity in the extreme
missing the point, a tiny miniscule bit of extra pollution is worth it for spreading the message
Can argue about miniscule but.... But spreading what message. I actually think it undermines the message. It at least half asks the question people doing this are cranks and don't care about the lives of ordinary people and maybe don't even care about pollution. There are other ways to go about this and get the message over more effectively. As a result of this protest how many people suddenly start thinking about climate change. As I said before it is dumb and stupid.
Reminder: it is possible to condemn protestors without condemning their cause
To be fair that's what nearly everyone has been doing.
Their "cause" and their "demands" are two different things. Their "demand" is net zero by 2025. Luckily they have fuck all chance of their "demands" being met.
Meanwhile, the rest of society can accelerate positive actions that support the focus on climate change without wrecking livelihoods and economies in the process.
How on earth can anyone saying they hope their 'demands' of net zero by 2025 aren't met? I assume as someone gets a bit older and more 'experienced' they also get more complacent and don't like change - no positive change ever happens without some ambition behind it.
The world will be a completely different place in decades because of a lack of ambition, it's probably not best to ridicule the ambition to change one of the most important issues this world has.
Reminder: it is possible to condemn protestors without condemning their cause
To be fair that's what nearly everyone has been doing.
Their "cause" and their "demands" are two different things. Their "demand" is net zero by 2025. Luckily they have fuck all chance of their "demands" being met.
Meanwhile, the rest of society can accelerate positive actions that support the focus on climate change without wrecking livelihoods and economies in the process.
How on earth can anyone saying they hope their 'demands' of net zero by 2025 aren't met? I assume as someone gets a bit older and more 'experienced' they also get more complacent and don't like change - no positive change ever happens without some ambition behind it.
The world will be a completely different place in decades because of a lack of ambition, it's probably not best to ridicule the ambition to change one of the most important issues this world has.
I agree with the ambition and will do all can to help, ie fit a low emission fuel efficient boiler, drive sparingly a low emission economical car, never litter, eat vegetarian, and recycle as much as I can. But I strongly resent being patronised by crappy adverts like the one that says "Im only seven, you figure it out", and being bothered by hippy "Guardian" wankers blocking roads whilst thinking they are SO making a difference.
Just because they only have a lentil and tofu dinner planned, cooked in the glow from their own sense of self importance, why inconvenience people trying to earn a living or trying to get to their hospital appointment (Im surprised that a few burley Yorkie eating truckers haven't had a word"). Why don't they go to China or Russia and have a crack at the real polluters and see how that goes down?. Ooh It drives me so mad, I can feel one of my headaches coming on.
Haven't read the full thread but I agree with all the posters saying how wrong it us to inconvenience Joe Public.
I live in Swanley & often have to go to East Grinstead for hospital appointments for my eyes. I usually go round the M25 & come off at J6 where all the protesters were on Monday.
Bloody good job I didnt have to go on Monday as I'd have likely to have just run then over if they were in the road blocking me.
If they were truly committed to their cause they would top themselves
It's the action of people who care, who feel they have to blame someone, however futile, but the reality is they are deluded.
Overpopulation is the elephant in the room that cannot be acknowledged. Curing overpopulation to reduce consumption of the World's resources cannot even be contemplated by society, let alone spoken about, for obvious reasons.
Obviously flippant, but the protestors would accomplish more for the planet than roof insulation if they all just jumped off the motorway bridges into the oncoming traffic to help reduce the population.
Roof insulation is not even a sticking plaster initiative, it's laughable.
Suffragettes had a cause which could be accomplished very easily given the will of government. Roof insulation is not a "cause", it will not cure climate change, it's one of thousands of initiatives which are open to Government, it's not a panacea for climate change Government is choosing to ignore.
Just silly futile gesturing. Why don't they join the Green Party, change policy and get elected to Government on a platform of roof insulation for all.
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Well you can console you friend by telling them that the insulation in their house is going to be upgraded !!
If they were truly committed to their cause they would top themselves
Maybe a lot of people will be pissed off - but are you really suggesting these people will now disregard rapidly accelerating climate change because they were delayed one morning in their life today?
Any protest of this nature is to make people aware.
Newspapers, radio, television, social media are all carrying this news. Pressure will be put on government and big business.
Even Charlton Life is carrying a thread of 120 comments and 2.1K views.
For today at least, people are being made aware.
That's the point of this type of protest.
Personally, I don't think they are going about it the most effective way.
It's foolish to think that protesting about insulating homes by blocking major motorways, I guess the busiest in the country, is going to do anything but royally pee people off.
Yes there's a thread on here, mostly people disagreeing with the protest!
I'm not saying people will now disregard climate change, but ExR are losing the support of the general public with stunts like this.
A mistake made by many mate….myself included and for a number of years too.
Many people also say The River Seven instead of Severn.
Meanwhile, the rest of society can accelerate positive actions that support the focus on climate change without wrecking livelihoods and economies in the process.
As a result of this protest how many people suddenly start thinking about climate change. As I said before it is dumb and stupid.
The world will be a completely different place in decades because of a lack of ambition, it's probably not best to ridicule the ambition to change one of the most important issues this world has.
The Police just diverting traffic away from them is pathetic. If it goes on much longer there will be plenty of 'protesters' getting clumps.
Just because they only have a lentil and tofu dinner planned, cooked in the glow from their own sense of self importance, why inconvenience people trying to earn a living or trying to get to their hospital appointment (Im surprised that a few burley Yorkie eating truckers haven't had a word"). Why don't they go to China or Russia and have a crack at the real polluters and see how that goes down?. Ooh It drives me so mad, I can feel one of my headaches coming on.
I live in Swanley & often have to go to East Grinstead for hospital appointments for my eyes. I usually go round the M25 & come off at J6 where all the protesters were on Monday.
Bloody good job I didnt have to go on Monday as I'd have likely to have just run then over if they were in the road blocking me.
Really boils my piss.
Overpopulation is the elephant in the room that cannot be acknowledged. Curing overpopulation to reduce consumption of the World's resources cannot even be contemplated by society, let alone spoken about, for obvious reasons.
Obviously flippant, but the protestors would accomplish more for the planet than roof insulation if they all just jumped off the motorway bridges into the oncoming traffic to help reduce the population.
Roof insulation is not even a sticking plaster initiative, it's laughable.
Suffragettes had a cause which could be accomplished very easily given the will of government. Roof insulation is not a "cause", it will not cure climate change, it's one of thousands of initiatives which are open to Government, it's not a panacea for climate change Government is choosing to ignore.
Just silly futile gesturing. Why don't they join the Green Party, change policy and get elected to Government on a platform of roof insulation for all.