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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic v Accrington Stanley | Tues 19 October 2021
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Oh and which clown lined up our defensive walls at the free kicks once again?
3 men in the first wall!
I said he's gonna score because he had a clear sight of goal.
The next one they lined up with Morgan standing apart from the wall giving them another free shot at goal.
You would honestly think we were doing our best to concede.
I knew more about defending when I was 8 years old.5 -
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Or the Mrs's side in the morning.AFKABartram said:What a night. Charlton stunk the house out again. Millwall last min winner, Lyle Taylor the hero.Just need to hear now that Matt Southall won the EuroMillions and find Alan Pardew on my side of the bed when I go up.0 -
Outplayed by a bloke called Stanley, well played sir a convincing win.0
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Well that was a fucking car crash of an evening .
Took all 4 kids , including petrol head prick who doesn’t like football and Mrs to game .
Good journey down there and get in the vista lounge with 3 hungry kids and me only to be offered cold foot long hot dog and cold chips for £8.90 , utter shit , I got 3 of them , pinched a few cold chips at which point petrol boy makes a scene and the mrs gets the hump with me cos I shouldn’t be nicking his chips , fuck off he should share the fucking car jockey… so we didn’t talk for the next hour .
Game wanky as ever .
There was a small protest outside the main reception area at the end , drummer boy and some other die hard nutbags .
left just after ten pm and Mick Everett and a few old bill there .
Do the honourable thing Thomas and put Nigel and us out of our misery and sack the clown .
I’m shattered having read all this thread cos I’m too scared to go to bed and suffer the wrath of the mrs .
Fuck them all I’m gonna drag em all to the next couple of midweekers so they can suffer this shit again the ungrateful cnuts .52 -
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Another midfield hotchpotch selection had predictable results, with a first half dominated by Accy, who must have wondered how on earth they only went in at 1-1.
We started the second half well but, having ridden the 10 minute storm, our opponents predictably reassumed control and Charlton’s atrocious defending quickly saw us 3-1 down.
Adkins’ response was (as my son put it) like a 12 year old on PlayStation, throwing on all his forwards, although one of them, Washington, did extremely well to retrieve the ball near the corner flag, cross it to where (typically) no Charlton player had ventured in the box but a feeble clearance sent the ball to Stockley, who got us back in the game at 3-2. There were a couple of decent efforts on goal after that but, in truth, we absolutely did not deserve a point in what was an exceptionally poor and clueless performance.
The team has shown no promise whatsoever over the first league 13 games and has stunk the place out during the vast majority of them. A change of manager is now certainly needed, as a further delay is only likely to see us more firmly rooted in the relegation zone - perhaps irretrievably.
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I’m a comfort eater so I’ve had four takeaways after the match as well.LouisMend said:10 -
Gilbey won man of the match in the lounge and I just caught the end of Bob Bolder saying he didn’t want to come and get his award cos we lost blah blah blah
Bumped in to Peter “scoop’ Burrows who is as furious as us all with it all
I’m on the bog fantasising about being that rhino18 -
I flip flopped all day today about going, I did and how I regretted it.
Our CM’s are seriously lacking movement, game intelligence and energy but honestly those two full backs are a disgrace and the worst I’ve ever seen - they are a massive part of the problem! Each responsible for a goal.
But he whole evening was made worse by the absolute melt sat in the family stand next to me going absolutely nuts at the linesman the WHOLE game in front of his very young, confused kid.
I’m going to have to move seats if I have to put up with that… even the game was more enjoyable0 -
And Gunter was the worse culprit. Absolutely clueless the lot of them.cafcsinger said:Why are our players so brain dead? How many stupid fouls did Gilbey give away when the bloke is going nowhere. No footballing intelligence at all3 -
I went back to source for more context on this.Raith_C_Chattonell said:If there is to be a cull should the Pelchen algorithm be included?
Recruitment analysts Ruben Sammut and former academy graduate Aaron Barnes, work with the Australian-based Dan Pelchen to analyse the data from an algorithm Pelchen has built for the club over the last 12 months to highlight players based on the club’s intended playing style.
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/6139d07e655f0/in-depth-summer-transfer-window-2021
That's really scary. The management team have definitively and effectively institutionalised failure in the fabric of the club.4 -
Horrible on the pitch, but you need that and it’s something we definitely lack, but seems like a nice lad and it was obviously a big night for him.ForeverAddickted said:12 -
There was so much optimism in that piece. It's hard to believe that it was only written six weeks ago.swords_alive said:
I went back to source for more context on this.Raith_C_Chattonell said:If there is to be a cull should the Pelchen algorithm be included?
Recruitment analysts Ruben Sammut and former academy graduate Aaron Barnes, work with the Australian-based Dan Pelchen to analyse the data from an algorithm Pelchen has built for the club over the last 12 months to highlight players based on the club’s intended playing style.
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/6139d07e655f0/in-depth-summer-transfer-window-2021
That's really scary. The management team have definitively and effectively institutionalised failure in the fabric of the club.0 -
Feels like Adkins is in such a irreparable position that nobody is really questioning the excessive amount of players that are coming in and out of the team this season, he has absolutely no idea what his best 22 players are let alone best 11.
I know it’s a game of opinions but how in his eyes do Gunter & Souare warrant a start after being poor vs Lincoln over Matthews & Purrington?
How does Morgan get frozen out the team for so long and is suddenly deemed good enough to start vs Accrington?
He drops Stockley so the team don’t lump it up to him then brings him back in when Davison didn’t deserve to be dropped and I doubt our players could tell us the way we were playing!
I just feel so tired of this football club lately. Accrington didn’t need to get out of 2nd gear to beat us no wonder why they didn’t need to make a sub, an easy stroll in the park.14 -
Very good write up from
Accrington manager admits they were lucky and outplayed second half to get the win .. said it could have been 5-5 …. He said not always the manager fault and fans need to understand that13 -
Not always the managers fault that we play badly and lose?
Maybe as a one-off Mr Coleman, but game after game?
It is the managers fault.
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Coleman is right, yes Adkins out etc. But these players need to grow a pair of bollocks too4
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Forget a clean sheet win , Still haven’t seen us win in the league yet!0
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This is my biggest problem with Adkins, the absolutely random team selections.SheedyCAFC said:Feels like Adkins is in such a irreparable position that nobody is really questioning the excessive amount of players that are coming in and out of the team this season, he has absolutely no idea what his best 22 players are let alone best 11.
I know it’s a game of opinions but how in his eyes do Gunter & Souare warrant a start after being poor vs Lincoln over Matthews & Purrington?
How does Morgan get frozen out the team for so long and is suddenly deemed good enough to start vs Accrington?
He drops Stockley so the team don’t lump it up to him then brings him back in when Davison didn’t deserve to be dropped and I doubt our players could tell us the way we were playing!
I just feel so tired of this football club lately. Accrington didn’t need to get out of 2nd gear to beat us no wonder why they didn’t need to make a sub, an easy stroll in the park.
Kirk is in, then out, comes back and is now out again.
Arter was in, then out, back in and now out.
Stockley was in, then out and now back.
Morgan was in, then out and now back.
Jayeshimi was in, then out and now back.
This has all taken place in the last six games or so!12 -
Started singing the Hokey Cokey whilst reading that.21
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Not sure that’s true:HandG said:
I doubt it - his assets are going to worth a lot less in the National League….1StevieG said:Duchatelet must be laughing his gaffer taped shoes off.a) his assets are property. I doubt the value of the property is massively impacted by the division the team who rents the property is playing in over the other factors which determine property value.b) my understanding is one of the big factors which drags down the property value is the challenge anyone would face in getting planning permission to develop the site into something else, that might be an easier sell to the council if we were in non-League!It feels like Roland has done Sandgaard, I wonder if that’s starting to sink in for TS yet?1 -
Did Nige give a interview? Just skimmed the last 7 pages and can't see one0
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Gribbo said:Did Nige give a interview? Just skimmed the last 7 pages and can't see one
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sirjohnhumphrey said:I sat behind the home dugout as I wanted to see how Adkins behaves and ‘manages’.
It was interesting. He micromanages the game constantly barking orders. On most occasions his message didn’t get through. It is hard for players to hear, granted, but I’m sure in a number of occasions they just ignored him. It appeared we were surprised by and unprepared for everything Stanley did, almost as though we’d done no prep work.
Stockley involved in an argument with Euell for most of the first half. Gunter and Jackson similar. Adkins seems so far removed from our club and fans. He wants a payout as far as I can see.
But, but, it's Adkins they don't respect, JJ and Euell aren't allowed input.
Attacking player shouting at Euell
Defender having a barmy with Jackson
Snarky jokey comments aside, I'd say this is probably the most obvious evidence that something ain't right in the set up.
There's divided opinions on the players abilities, the core of the squad we had last season we've retained, there's an argument that they are a top 6 group based on where and how we finished last season - as a result there's the belief that they're underperforming massively and (rightly) so in that situation the manager is to blame.
But.... Can that logic not be applied to Adkins? If the players don't suddenly go from play off potential to relegation quality then why would the manager - it was Adkins in charge for the run in with those players last season after all...
In truth, they're both probably top half quality, Aneke papered over last season's cracks. And got us closer than we maybe should have been.
Something changed in the close season that's lead to the players and staff looking clueless and useless. So, is it the identity and philosophy we're supposed to be implementing?
If it is, this so called identify that we're trying to create ain't working right now, and it's not something we need either, if we're forcing coaches to coach outside of their comfort zone and ability and forcing a formation and play style that doesn't suit our players.... Then it's gonna be a shit show. And it is.
And that needs addressing just as much as Adkins position.
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Ask Albie MorganBigRedEvil said:First half was dreadful, Accrington just walked through us. 2nd half we played well for nearly 20 minutes which actually was nearly enough for an undeserved point.
Their 3rd goal how can you let a player run across the box and get a shot away like that?
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Spot on. The only consistent thing about Adkins is he changes the starting 11 every week.SheedyCAFC said:Feels like Adkins is in such a irreparable position that nobody is really questioning the excessive amount of players that are coming in and out of the team this season, he has absolutely no idea what his best 22 players are let alone best 11.
I know it’s a game of opinions but how in his eyes do Gunter & Souare warrant a start after being poor vs Lincoln over Matthews & Purrington?
How does Morgan get frozen out the team for so long and is suddenly deemed good enough to start vs Accrington?
He drops Stockley so the team don’t lump it up to him then brings him back in when Davison didn’t deserve to be dropped and I doubt our players could tell us the way we were playing!
I just feel so tired of this football club lately. Accrington didn’t need to get out of 2nd gear to beat us no wonder why they didn’t need to make a sub, an easy stroll in the park.I think that’s a huge part of this mess. No development of partnerships, no understanding, no style of play.No chance.1
