CL reflects the mood of the Country with a truce on whether we are staunch Monarchists or like myself desperate to see a slimmed down monarchy in sync with 2022 issues.
I have been an atheist since I was 8 years old and have never wanted to be a subject but I appreciate the lack of an alternative without a civil way taking place again as many folk are Monarchists until they die and no doubt as they believe in a big G after as well !
King Charles III unlike his Mother who was 50 years younger when becoming Queen has had a lifetime to prepare for the job of king.
Where the Queen would only give her views in the Royal circle, Charles has been out spoken on many issues.
Charles and William will work together as the king knows his productive period will be in the next decade, nature willing, and he will want the baton to be handed over to William in a smooth as possible a way and that the new Prince of Wales continues the Journey to reflect a 21st century monarchy that has to change to stay relevant but will want to still be at the head and heart of the ever changing demographics of the United Kingdom.
I have been watching the Crown on Netflix and the news over the last few days in tandem and it's seems quite seamless when the late Queen Elizabeth had to make difficult decisions and not be bullied by Royal advisors, Prime ministers or the media. Learning on the job in her 20's was difficult but the Queen dedicated her life for 70 years to the job.
Amazing Longevity that we will never see again.
I'm an atheist and used to be a smuggy anarchist, but it was just an incorrect sense of believing I knew best.
The monarchy is very important for our country and long may it continue.
We do NEED the monarchy, whether we like it or not.
CL reflects the mood of the Country with a truce on whether we are staunch Monarchists or like myself desperate to see a slimmed down monarchy in sync with 2022 issues.
I have been an atheist since I was 8 years old and have never wanted to be a subject but I appreciate the lack of an alternative without a civil way taking place again as many folk are Monarchists until they die and no doubt as they believe in a big G after as well !
King Charles III unlike his Mother who was 50 years younger when becoming Queen has had a lifetime to prepare for the job of king.
Where the Queen would only give her views in the Royal circle, Charles has been out spoken on many issues.
Charles and William will work together as the king knows his productive period will be in the next decade, nature willing, and he will want the baton to be handed over to William in a smooth as possible a way and that the new Prince of Wales continues the Journey to reflect a 21st century monarchy that has to change to stay relevant but will want to still be at the head and heart of the ever changing demographics of the United Kingdom.
I have been watching the Crown on Netflix and the news over the last few days in tandem and it's seems quite seamless when the late Queen Elizabeth had to make difficult decisions and not be bullied by Royal advisors, Prime ministers or the media. Learning on the job in her 20's was difficult but the Queen dedicated her life for 70 years to the job.
Amazing Longevity that we will never see again.
I'm an atheist and used to be a smuggy anarchist, but it was just an incorrect sense of believing I knew best.
The monarchy is very important for our country and long may it continue.
We do NEED the monarchy, whether we like it or not.
Nobody “NEEDs” a monarchy, we certainly don’t.
But let’s leave that debate for the HoC.
Going by most of your post regarding the monarchy, you're obviously anti, which is fair enough, but why scan through this thread looking to pull people up, to then tell them that any argument is for the HoC thread?
CL reflects the mood of the Country with a truce on whether we are staunch Monarchists or like myself desperate to see a slimmed down monarchy in sync with 2022 issues.
I have been an atheist since I was 8 years old and have never wanted to be a subject but I appreciate the lack of an alternative without a civil way taking place again as many folk are Monarchists until they die and no doubt as they believe in a big G after as well !
King Charles III unlike his Mother who was 50 years younger when becoming Queen has had a lifetime to prepare for the job of king.
Where the Queen would only give her views in the Royal circle, Charles has been out spoken on many issues.
Charles and William will work together as the king knows his productive period will be in the next decade, nature willing, and he will want the baton to be handed over to William in a smooth as possible a way and that the new Prince of Wales continues the Journey to reflect a 21st century monarchy that has to change to stay relevant but will want to still be at the head and heart of the ever changing demographics of the United Kingdom.
I have been watching the Crown on Netflix and the news over the last few days in tandem and it's seems quite seamless when the late Queen Elizabeth had to make difficult decisions and not be bullied by Royal advisors, Prime ministers or the media. Learning on the job in her 20's was difficult but the Queen dedicated her life for 70 years to the job.
Amazing Longevity that we will never see again.
I'm an atheist and used to be a smuggy anarchist, but it was just an incorrect sense of believing I knew best.
The monarchy is very important for our country and long may it continue.
We do NEED the monarchy, whether we like it or not.
Nobody “NEEDs” a monarchy, we certainly don’t.
But let’s leave that debate for the HoC.
Our United Kingdom and England is a powerful nation.
For it to stay the way it is, we need to keep the tradition of the monarchy.
In comparison to other nations, the UK will gradually fall down the table of importance and respect, if we no longer have a Royal family.
I have a genuine question. Would I be correct with this analysis? How do you really feel?
People are not so much sad at the death of Elizabeth R herself as she lived a long happy life, but rather about what she represented. The monarch is the human representation of the nation. I think a lot of the sadness is because she was something that was always there through changing times. I think I read this somewhere online yesterday: "People are not mourning the Queen but they are mourning Britain because it has been dying for some time and with her gone it feels like it is dead".
I have a genuine question. Would I be correct with this analysis? How do you really feel?
People are not so much sad at the death of Elizabeth R herself as she lived a long happy life, but rather about what she represented. The monarch is the human representation of the nation. I think a lot of the sadness is because she was something that was always there through changing times. I think I read this somewhere online yesterday: "People are not mourning the Queen but they are mourning Britain because it has been dying for some time and with her gone it feels like it is dead".
I’d agree with every part of that completely, right up until the last sentence.
Nobody in the history of this country ever has or ever will embody Great Britain like Queen Elizabeth II.
But yes, the sadness is absolutely the fact that arguably the biggest piece of national identity we have has been lost with the Queen. And there isn’t even a close runner up in that regard.
I have a genuine question. Would I be correct with this analysis? How do you really feel?
People are not so much sad at the death of Elizabeth R herself as she lived a long happy life, but rather about what she represented. The monarch is the human representation of the nation. I think a lot of the sadness is because she was something that was always there through changing times. I think I read this somewhere online yesterday: "People are not mourning the Queen but they are mourning Britain because it has been dying for some time and with her gone it feels like it is dead".
There was rolling TV coverage on the news here in Spain last night and I have to say it made me very proud to be British. No other Head of State has ever been as well known, loved and respected.
At a christening with the in laws up in Huesca, it's been a hot topic of conversation. She stood for, represented and meant a hell of a lot more than just "some privileged woman" unreal the amount of feeling that's being expressed the world over.
I have a genuine question. Would I be correct with this analysis? How do you really feel?
People are not so much sad at the death of Elizabeth R herself as she lived a long happy life, but rather about what she represented. The monarch is the human representation of the nation. I think a lot of the sadness is because she was something that was always there through changing times. I think I read this somewhere online yesterday: "People are not mourning the Queen but they are mourning Britain because it has been dying for some time and with her gone it feels like it is dead".
I have a genuine question. Would I be correct with this analysis? How do you really feel?
People are not so much sad at the death of Elizabeth R herself as she lived a long happy life, but rather about what she represented. The monarch is the human representation of the nation. I think a lot of the sadness is because she was something that was always there through changing times. I think I read this somewhere online yesterday: "People are not mourning the Queen but they are mourning Britain because it has been dying for some time and with her gone it feels like it is dead".
Totally not. People are mourning because that's what you do when someone dies who is a part of your life.
CL reflects the mood of the Country with a truce on whether we are staunch Monarchists or like myself desperate to see a slimmed down monarchy in sync with 2022 issues.
I have been an atheist since I was 8 years old and have never wanted to be a subject but I appreciate the lack of an alternative without a civil way taking place again as many folk are Monarchists until they die and no doubt as they believe in a big G after as well !
King Charles III unlike his Mother who was 50 years younger when becoming Queen has had a lifetime to prepare for the job of king.
Where the Queen would only give her views in the Royal circle, Charles has been out spoken on many issues.
Charles and William will work together as the king knows his productive period will be in the next decade, nature willing, and he will want the baton to be handed over to William in a smooth as possible a way and that the new Prince of Wales continues the Journey to reflect a 21st century monarchy that has to change to stay relevant but will want to still be at the head and heart of the ever changing demographics of the United Kingdom.
I have been watching the Crown on Netflix and the news over the last few days in tandem and it's seems quite seamless when the late Queen Elizabeth had to make difficult decisions and not be bullied by Royal advisors, Prime ministers or the media. Learning on the job in her 20's was difficult but the Queen dedicated her life for 70 years to the job.
Amazing Longevity that we will never see again.
I'm an atheist and used to be a smuggy anarchist, but it was just an incorrect sense of believing I knew best.
The monarchy is very important for our country and long may it continue.
We do NEED the monarchy, whether we like it or not.
Nobody “NEEDs” a monarchy, we certainly don’t.
But let’s leave that debate for the HoC.
Our United Kingdom and England is a powerful nation.
For it to stay the way it is, we need to keep the tradition of the monarchy.
In comparison to other nations, the UK will gradually fall down the table of importance and respect, if we no longer have a Royal family.
It just wouldn't be the same.
If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it
With all due respect in the last 30 years alone the Monarchy has had to be fixed so many times and during the marriage Split and the death of Diana it nearly totally imploded.
It has taken the death of a 96 year old Queen to bring back the king's prodigal son and his wife.
The Royal family are the original soap opera and it's unclear what the scriptwriting fates have in store for the Windsors.
Very much prime time on a 24/7 rolling news loop here and worldwide.
CL reflects the mood of the Country with a truce on whether we are staunch Monarchists or like myself desperate to see a slimmed down monarchy in sync with 2022 issues.
I have been an atheist since I was 8 years old and have never wanted to be a subject but I appreciate the lack of an alternative without a civil way taking place again as many folk are Monarchists until they die and no doubt as they believe in a big G after as well !
King Charles III unlike his Mother who was 50 years younger when becoming Queen has had a lifetime to prepare for the job of king.
Where the Queen would only give her views in the Royal circle, Charles has been out spoken on many issues.
Charles and William will work together as the king knows his productive period will be in the next decade, nature willing, and he will want the baton to be handed over to William in a smooth as possible a way and that the new Prince of Wales continues the Journey to reflect a 21st century monarchy that has to change to stay relevant but will want to still be at the head and heart of the ever changing demographics of the United Kingdom.
I have been watching the Crown on Netflix and the news over the last few days in tandem and it's seems quite seamless when the late Queen Elizabeth had to make difficult decisions and not be bullied by Royal advisors, Prime ministers or the media. Learning on the job in her 20's was difficult but the Queen dedicated her life for 70 years to the job.
Amazing Longevity that we will never see again.
I'm an atheist and used to be a smuggy anarchist, but it was just an incorrect sense of believing I knew best.
The monarchy is very important for our country and long may it continue.
We do NEED the monarchy, whether we like it or not.
Nobody “NEEDs” a monarchy, we certainly don’t.
But let’s leave that debate for the HoC.
Going by most of your post regarding the monarchy, you're obviously anti, which is fair enough, but why scan through this thread looking to pull people up, to then tell them that any argument is for the HoC thread?
I’m not a royalist, but I see the joy it brings to many so I respect it. Despite not being a royalist I do admire the queen and the way she carried herself and I hope she has a fitting send of.
However..
To say we need a royal family just because it’s always been there isn’t an argument because there are lots of things that have always been that we got rid of.
To say we need it for tourism, also doesn’t necessarily work because we can’t quantify or compare it, unless I’ve missed a detailed analysis.
To say we need it to remain an economic powerhouse I’d disagree with also, you do that through trade commerce and exports etc, the financial markets for example we are one of the big players and it’s a massive part of our economy, that’s got nothing to with the royal family.
I’m not a royalist, but I see the joy it brings to many so I respect it. Despite not being a royalist I do admire the queen and the way she carried herself and I hope she has a fitting send of.
However..
To say we need a royal family just because it’s always been there isn’t an argument because there are lots of things that have always been that we got rid of.
To say we need it for tourism, also doesn’t necessarily work because we can’t quantify or compare it, unless I’ve missed a detailed analysis.
To say we need it to remain an economic powerhouse I’d disagree with also, you do that through trade commerce and exports etc, the financial markets for example we are one of the big players and it’s a massive part of our economy, that’s got nothing to with the royal family.
It works. It’s illogical but it works. The queen was head of state for 70 years. Charles will be for a decade at least hopefully. Continuity, experience, effective (ask any prime minister). We could have an elected head of state replaced every 5 years and have division embedded in the political system.
I’m not a royalist, but I see the joy it brings to many so I respect it. Despite not being a royalist I do admire the queen and the way she carried herself and I hope she has a fitting send of.
However..
To say we need a royal family just because it’s always been there isn’t an argument because there are lots of things that have always been that we got rid of.
To say we need it for tourism, also doesn’t necessarily work because we can’t quantify or compare it, unless I’ve missed a detailed analysis.
To say we need it to remain an economic powerhouse I’d disagree with also, you do that through trade commerce and exports etc, the financial markets for example we are one of the big players and it’s a massive part of our economy, that’s got nothing to with the royal family.
It works. It’s illogical but it works. The queen was head of state for 70 years. Charles will be for a decade at least hopefully. Continuity, experience, effective (ask any prime minister). We could have an elected head of state replaced every 5 years and have division embedded in the political system.
Very fair and honest. Disagree about the political division however we have loads of it!
Many members of The Royal Family have been out to meet the public starting with The King yesterday. Today his sister, brothers and their families looked at the floral tributes at Balmoral and The Prince & Princess of Wales with The Duke & Duchess of Sussex met the public in Windsor.
This delighted the crowds and brought the Monarchy closer to the people. It is wonderful to see and I hope they get some comfort from the love being shown towards The Queen.
Quite right we don't need a Royal family, nor holidays, football, sport, pubs, alcohol, cinema, theatre, restaurants, music, trainers. I could carry on for quite sometime. We need shelter, water and food, that's about it as a necessity.
I’m not a royalist, but I see the joy it brings to many so I respect it. Despite not being a royalist I do admire the queen and the way she carried herself and I hope she has a fitting send of.
However..
To say we need a royal family just because it’s always been there isn’t an argument because there are lots of things that have always been that we got rid of.
To say we need it for tourism, also doesn’t necessarily work because we can’t quantify or compare it, unless I’ve missed a detailed analysis.
To say we need it to remain an economic powerhouse I’d disagree with also, you do that through trade commerce and exports etc, the financial markets for example we are one of the big players and it’s a massive part of our economy, that’s got nothing to with the royal family.
I'm not a royalist either. I think people should start from the bottom to work their way up, and we should all have equal rights.
The Royal family brings a lot of joy and happiness to people though and it is a global attraction.
It is not just about tourism
The Royal family plays a key part for us to continue being a fully respected nation by our allies.
They help and protect the commonwealth nations like a shield
Quite right we don't need a Royal family, nor holidays, football, sport, pubs, alcohol, cinema, theatre, restaurants, music, trainers. I could carry on for quite sometime. We need shelter, water and food, that's about it as a necessity.
As with the other thread you’re saying things that no one said again in a tantrum, your head has absolutely gone this evening. No one’s arguing with anyone, the debate it fine.
CL reflects the mood of the Country with a truce on whether we are staunch Monarchists or like myself desperate to see a slimmed down monarchy in sync with 2022 issues.
I have been an atheist since I was 8 years old and have never wanted to be a subject but I appreciate the lack of an alternative without a civil way taking place again as many folk are Monarchists until they die and no doubt as they believe in a big G after as well !
King Charles III unlike his Mother who was 50 years younger when becoming Queen has had a lifetime to prepare for the job of king.
Where the Queen would only give her views in the Royal circle, Charles has been out spoken on many issues.
Charles and William will work together as the king knows his productive period will be in the next decade, nature willing, and he will want the baton to be handed over to William in a smooth as possible a way and that the new Prince of Wales continues the Journey to reflect a 21st century monarchy that has to change to stay relevant but will want to still be at the head and heart of the ever changing demographics of the United Kingdom.
I have been watching the Crown on Netflix and the news over the last few days in tandem and it's seems quite seamless when the late Queen Elizabeth had to make difficult decisions and not be bullied by Royal advisors, Prime ministers or the media. Learning on the job in her 20's was difficult but the Queen dedicated her life for 70 years to the job.
Amazing Longevity that we will never see again.
I'm an atheist and used to be a smuggy anarchist, but it was just an incorrect sense of believing I knew best.
The monarchy is very important for our country and long may it continue.
We do NEED the monarchy, whether we like it or not.
Nobody “NEEDs” a monarchy, we certainly don’t.
But let’s leave that debate for the HoC.
Going by most of your post regarding the monarchy, you're obviously anti, which is fair enough, but why scan through this thread looking to pull people up, to then tell them that any argument is for the HoC thread?
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But let’s leave that debate for the HoC.
I am not a royalist, but I will definitely be in London amongst all the goings on during that day, witnessing history and showing my respects.
Our United Kingdom and England is a powerful nation.
For it to stay the way it is, we need to keep the tradition of the monarchy.
In comparison to other nations, the UK will gradually fall down the table of importance and respect, if we no longer have a Royal family.
It just wouldn't be the same.
If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it
People are not so much sad at the death of Elizabeth R herself as she lived a long happy life, but rather about what she represented. The monarch is the human representation of the nation. I think a lot of the sadness is because she was something that was always there through changing times. I think I read this somewhere online yesterday: "People are not mourning the Queen but they are mourning Britain because it has been dying for some time and with her gone it feels like it is dead".
Nobody in the history of this country ever has or ever will embody Great Britain like Queen Elizabeth II.
At a christening with the in laws up in Huesca, it's been a hot topic of conversation. She stood for, represented and meant a hell of a lot more than just "some privileged woman" unreal the amount of feeling that's being expressed the world over.
Charles could end it with a
"Unfortunately, this time, God didn't quite save our queen, she was just a human being
And we mean it, man"
With all due respect in the last 30 years alone the Monarchy has had to be fixed so many times and during the marriage Split and the death of Diana it nearly totally imploded.
It has taken the death of a 96 year old Queen to bring back the king's prodigal son and his wife.
The Royal family are the original soap opera and it's unclear what the scriptwriting fates have in store for the Windsors.
Very much prime time on a 24/7 rolling news loop here and worldwide.
We can't allow it to plummet - especially now that we are out of the European Union.
This delighted the crowds and brought the Monarchy closer to the people. It is wonderful to see and I hope they get some comfort from the love being shown towards The Queen.
I could carry on for quite sometime.
We need shelter, water and food, that's about it as a necessity.
I'm not a royalist either. I think people should start from the bottom to work their way up, and we should all have equal rights.
The Royal family brings a lot of joy and happiness to people though and it is a global attraction.
It is not just about tourism
The Royal family plays a key part for us to continue being a fully respected nation by our allies.
They help and protect the commonwealth nations like a shield