Anyone else think it was brilliant that Rees Mogg managed to miss getting the Privy Council/chief annoucer type job that Penny Mordaunt carried out at the Ascension by 2 days.
He'd have been so smug looking at looking important during the whole thing.
CL reflects the mood of the Country with a truce on whether we are staunch Monarchists or like myself desperate to see a slimmed down monarchy in sync with 2022 issues.
I have been an atheist since I was 8 years old and have never wanted to be a subject but I appreciate the lack of an alternative without a civil way taking place again as many folk are Monarchists until they die and no doubt as they believe in a big G after as well !
King Charles III unlike his Mother who was 50 years younger when becoming Queen has had a lifetime to prepare for the job of king.
Where the Queen would only give her views in the Royal circle, Charles has been out spoken on many issues.
Charles and William will work together as the king knows his productive period will be in the next decade, nature willing, and he will want the baton to be handed over to William in a smooth as possible a way and that the new Prince of Wales continues the Journey to reflect a 21st century monarchy that has to change to stay relevant but will want to still be at the head and heart of the ever changing demographics of the United Kingdom.
I have been watching the Crown on Netflix and the news over the last few days in tandem and it's seems quite seamless when the late Queen Elizabeth had to make difficult decisions and not be bullied by Royal advisors, Prime ministers or the media. Learning on the job in her 20's was difficult but the Queen dedicated her life for 70 years to the job.
Amazing Longevity that we will never see again.
I'm an atheist and used to be a smuggy anarchist, but it was just an incorrect sense of believing I knew best.
The monarchy is very important for our country and long may it continue.
We do NEED the monarchy, whether we like it or not.
Nobody “NEEDs” a monarchy, we certainly don’t.
But let’s leave that debate for the HoC.
Going by most of your post regarding the monarchy, you're obviously anti, which is fair enough, but why scan through this thread looking to pull people up, to then tell them that any argument is for the HoC thread?
I am a royalist.
Me too
Me too (monarchist is a better description than royalist)
I imagine I wasn't the only person who knew nothing about the position Lord President of the Council . Indeed I doubt Penny Mordaunt thought much about it on Tuesday when she was given the title, seeing that being Leader of the Commons is her primary role!
Rees-Mogg actually only had the job until February, when Mark Spencer was given the position, so he's the one who just missed out on a place in history
The organisation in getting these things done, plus the funeral next with with all the associated dignitaries having to be collated and informed and invited and to be housed must be phenomenal.
Quite right we don't need a Royal family, nor holidays, football, sport, pubs, alcohol, cinema, theatre, restaurants, music, trainers. I could carry on for quite sometime. We need shelter, water and food, that's about it as a necessity.
As with the other thread you’re saying things that no one said again in a tantrum, your head has absolutely gone this evening. No one’s arguing with anyone, the debate it fine.
May the choirs of angels come to meet Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II may they lead her to Paradise.
An exemplary sovereign leader and steward. I overheard two people on the bus yesterday "....The last great thing about this country has gone. She was solid, stable, dignified at all times and made me very proud. I'm heartbroken and sense a massive loss. Never thought I'd feel like this".
It was great that she cited her strength came from her Christian faith. King Charles echoed this for himself today in his speech.
Perhaps there is still hope in the future of this country after all...
Anyone else think it was brilliant that Rees Mogg managed to miss getting the Privy Council/chief annoucer type job that Penny Mordaunt carried out at the Ascension by 2 days.
He'd have been so smug looking at looking important during the whole thing.
I think he would have been excellent. The peculiar desire by the mob to demand the most bland in everything in this age is the mark of this generation. If Mordaunt had been a piece of architecture King Charles would have called her a carbuncle!
CL reflects the mood of the Country with a truce on whether we are staunch Monarchists or like myself desperate to see a slimmed down monarchy in sync with 2022 issues.
I have been an atheist since I was 8 years old and have never wanted to be a subject but I appreciate the lack of an alternative without a civil way taking place again as many folk are Monarchists until they die and no doubt as they believe in a big G after as well !
King Charles III unlike his Mother who was 50 years younger when becoming Queen has had a lifetime to prepare for the job of king.
Where the Queen would only give her views in the Royal circle, Charles has been out spoken on many issues.
Charles and William will work together as the king knows his productive period will be in the next decade, nature willing, and he will want the baton to be handed over to William in a smooth as possible a way and that the new Prince of Wales continues the Journey to reflect a 21st century monarchy that has to change to stay relevant but will want to still be at the head and heart of the ever changing demographics of the United Kingdom.
I have been watching the Crown on Netflix and the news over the last few days in tandem and it's seems quite seamless when the late Queen Elizabeth had to make difficult decisions and not be bullied by Royal advisors, Prime ministers or the media. Learning on the job in her 20's was difficult but the Queen dedicated her life for 70 years to the job.
Amazing Longevity that we will never see again.
I'm an atheist and used to be a smuggy anarchist, but it was just an incorrect sense of believing I knew best.
The monarchy is very important for our country and long may it continue.
We do NEED the monarchy, whether we like it or not.
Nobody “NEEDs” a monarchy, we certainly don’t.
But let’s leave that debate for the HoC.
Going by most of your post regarding the monarchy, you're obviously anti, which is fair enough, but why scan through this thread looking to pull people up, to then tell them that any argument is for the HoC thread?
Been watching these pictures on the tele since 10am on the Queens finalourney to Edinburgh. Nearly all the properties theyve driven past someones been there to see the hearse through.
I have just been to sign the official book of condolences in the UK embassy in Madrid. They said the response has been incredible, with tributes from a huge amount of people here, Spanish, British expats and from the international community. It was a very moving and proud moment.
Can there ever have been a Head of State whose death - while serving in the role - has been marked across a wider spread of nations than Her Majesty? Sometimes it's good to see how others see us. This is pretty eye-opening.
In France, the Eiffel Tower's lights were turned off in her honour.
In New York, The Empire State Building paid tribute in regal purple and silver...
...the Yankees celebrated Her Majesty's life...
...and the US Open paid tribute...
In Brazil, Christ the Redeemer was lit up in red, white and blue...
In Canada, the CN Tower dimmed its lights...
Australia was typically, brashly Australian, of course...
I have a genuine question. Would I be correct with this analysis? How do you really feel?
People are not so much sad at the death of Elizabeth R herself as she lived a long happy life, but rather about what she represented. The monarch is the human representation of the nation. I think a lot of the sadness is because she was something that was always there through changing times. I think I read this somewhere online yesterday: "People are not mourning the Queen but they are mourning Britain because it has been dying for some time and with her gone it feels like it is dead".
Totally not. People are mourning because that's what you do when someone dies who is a part of your life.
I understand the argument. It doesn't have to be someone you personally know; it can be a famous person who has influenced you or affected you emotionally. What I don't understand is how she has done that to you. In what way did you feel a connection to her? What things did she actually do? Did she use her power and influence to: - defend / improve any group's rights
- promote any causes
- help any philanthropial work
- address any of the world's most pressing issues e.g. war, climate change etc
????
Please note: I am not being disrespectful or trying to hurt anyone's feelings. There are one or two famous people who I've never personally known who I will feel sad about upon their death.
I would just like some real explanation rather than the statutory reply of 'she did good service' or 'she represented the country.'
Defend/improve any group's rights You mean, like establishing the modern Commonwealth, spending 70 years as its head and attending almost every CHOGM meeting?
promote any causes You mean, other than the 800+ charities of which she was head, and for which she helped raise more than £1.4bn?
help any philanthropial work You mean, beyond the many hundreds of charitable organisations of which she was head, from the Aberdeen Association of Social Service to the YWCA?
address any of the world's most pressing issues e.g. war, climate change etc You mean, aside from overseeing the removal of Commonwealth status to five countries for their human rights records; opposing apartheid (causing South Africa to withdraw from the Commonwealth); and rewilding 850,000 acres of land?
I have a genuine question. Would I be correct with this analysis? How do you really feel?
People are not so much sad at the death of Elizabeth R herself as she lived a long happy life, but rather about what she represented. The monarch is the human representation of the nation. I think a lot of the sadness is because she was something that was always there through changing times. I think I read this somewhere online yesterday: "People are not mourning the Queen but they are mourning Britain because it has been dying for some time and with her gone it feels like it is dead".
Totally not. People are mourning because that's what you do when someone dies who is a part of your life.
I understand the argument. It doesn't have to be someone you personally know; it can be a famous person who has influenced you or affected you emotionally. What I don't understand is how she has done that to you. In what way did you feel a connection to her? What things did she actually do? Did she use her power and influence to: - defend / improve any group's rights
- promote any causes
- help any philanthropial work
- address any of the world's most pressing issues e.g. war, climate change etc
????
Please note: I am not being disrespectful or trying to hurt anyone's feelings. There are one or two famous people who I've never personally known who I will feel sad about upon their death.
I would just like some real explanation rather than the statutory reply of 'she did good service' or 'she represented the country.'
You are being disrespectful. Well I think you are. If you want to continue this debate, copy and paste it onto the Monarchy thread on there with those that can be bothered.
No further replying on this thread please peeps, thank you.
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He'd have been so smug looking at looking important during the whole thing.
Can't imagine it.
Reminded me she was the queen for 70 years.
We are now living in a bizarre time frame of dramatic change.
Rees-Mogg actually only had the job until February, when Mark Spencer was given the position, so he's the one who just missed out on a place in history
RIP My Queen 😪💔
Thanks for your reply Fanny. Answers my question 😄
An exemplary sovereign leader and steward. I overheard two people on the bus yesterday "....The last great thing about this country has gone. She was solid, stable, dignified at all times and made me very proud. I'm heartbroken and sense a massive loss. Never thought I'd feel like this".
It was great that she cited her strength came from her Christian faith. King Charles echoed this for himself today in his speech.
Perhaps there is still hope in the future of this country after all...
God Save The King.
Nearly all the properties theyve driven past someones been there to see the hearse through.
It was an absolute honour to be selected to serve on The Queen’s Flight at RAF Benson for 3 of those years.
R.I.P Your Majesty
(if you’re talking about when they did the 3 cheers for the King bit)
In France, the Eiffel Tower's lights were turned off in her honour.
In New York, The Empire State Building paid tribute in regal purple and silver...
...the Yankees celebrated Her Majesty's life...
...and the US Open paid tribute...
In Brazil, Christ the Redeemer was lit up in red, white and blue...
In Canada, the CN Tower dimmed its lights...
Australia was typically, brashly Australian, of course...
Tel Aviv joined in...
Cape Town City Hall...
An astonishing image from Kuwait...
Berlin...
Madrid...
You mean, like establishing the modern Commonwealth, spending 70 years as its head and attending almost every CHOGM meeting?
You mean, other than the 800+ charities of which she was head, and for which she helped raise more than £1.4bn?
You mean, beyond the many hundreds of charitable organisations of which she was head, from the Aberdeen Association of Social Service to the YWCA?
You mean, aside from overseeing the removal of Commonwealth status to five countries for their human rights records; opposing apartheid (causing South Africa to withdraw from the Commonwealth); and rewilding 850,000 acres of land?
the ones with ER on…