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2022 January transfer window thread - Non Charlton, other transfers (D Day p52)
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I haven't said buying players from lower teams is bad, I'm saying buying players from gillingham is bad. They look absolutely awful. Not losing is a very good habit, a habit Charlton have developed recently. A habit gillingham haven't developed. Let's sign Scunthorpe's star players why we are it?Callumcafc said:
Agree - Dale Stephens from Oldham & Matt Taylor from Exeter were dreadful players when they signed in 2011. So was Mark Kinsella from Colchester. It never works out taking players from teams that are worse than us.Todds_right_hook said:I wouldn't want any gillingham player, ticket and the midfielder that we were linked with in the summer. They play for a terrible team, why would we want them
we signed dean kiely from relegated bury but he was their star player. Whenever I see gillingham, they look like a team that realise they are in trouble. The manager doesn't want to be there which is causing players to regress and not progress. I wouldn't want one of their players at this stage! Maybe in the summer when they have a pre season with a new team and a chance to train and build confidence. Such as stevens and Taylor and even kieley. Kinsella wasn't signed from a team getting spanked every week. So, apart from your examples not joining in Jan and not playing for a team in relegation free fall, I can see the rationale in your comparison!!!!!
buy a player in Jan and they are expected to play. Why buy a player who plays for an awful team, a player short on confidence and in a losing mentality?0 -
How often do you watch Gillingham? Enough to know that their players have a losing mentality that nothing can fix, never mind that all it took for our players to chuck theirs was a change of manager? For a January example, we took Ben Purrington from Wimbledon in January and they finished just outside the relegation spots. I seem to remember him doing ok given he scored one of the goals that got us promoted out of the league at Wembley and he's currently our third top scorer. We also signed DJ from a terrible Swindon side in January and he's part of our fun winning habit team. George Dobson went from being a player who couldn't make our bench in a team in the relegation places (losing mentality) to our most effective player (winning mentality) and it took him exactly one game to get there. 'All players at teams in bad form can only be bad players' is a top level bad takeTodds_right_hook said:
I haven't said buying players from lower teams is bad, I'm saying buying players from gillingham is bad. They look absolutely awful. Not losing is a very good habit, a habit Charlton have developed recently. A habit gillingham haven't developed. Let's sign Scunthorpe's star players why we are it?Callumcafc said:
Agree - Dale Stephens from Oldham & Matt Taylor from Exeter were dreadful players when they signed in 2011. So was Mark Kinsella from Colchester. It never works out taking players from teams that are worse than us.Todds_right_hook said:I wouldn't want any gillingham player, ticket and the midfielder that we were linked with in the summer. They play for a terrible team, why would we want them
we signed dean kiely from relegated bury but he was their star player. Whenever I see gillingham, they look like a team that realise they are in trouble. The manager doesn't want to be there which is causing players to regress and not progress. I wouldn't want one of their players at this stage! Maybe in the summer when they have a pre season with a new team and a chance to train and build confidence. Such as stevens and Taylor and even kieley. Kinsella wasn't signed from a team getting spanked every week. So, apart from your examples not joining in Jan and not playing for a team in relegation free fall, I can see the rationale in your comparison!!!!!
buy a player in Jan and they are expected to play. Why buy a player who plays for an awful team, a player short on confidence and in a losing mentality?
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Including our game, 6 times. I have a friend who lives in a caravan. It's not right there at the moment and players are getting worse.Garrymanilow said:
How often do you watch Gillingham? Enough to know that their players have a losing mentality that nothing can fix, never mind that all it took for our players to chuck theirs was a change of manager? For a January example, we took Ben Purrington from Wimbledon in January and they finished just outside the relegation spots. I seem to remember him doing ok given he scored one of the goals that got us promoted out of the league at Wembley and he's currently our third top scorer. We also signed DJ from a terrible Swindon side in January and he's part of our fun winning habit team. George Dobson went from being a player who couldn't make our bench in a team in the relegation places (losing mentality) to our most effective player (winning mentality) and it took him exactly one game to get there. 'All players at teams in bad form can only be bad players' is a top level bad takeTodds_right_hook said:
I haven't said buying players from lower teams is bad, I'm saying buying players from gillingham is bad. They look absolutely awful. Not losing is a very good habit, a habit Charlton have developed recently. A habit gillingham haven't developed. Let's sign Scunthorpe's star players why we are it?Callumcafc said:
Agree - Dale Stephens from Oldham & Matt Taylor from Exeter were dreadful players when they signed in 2011. So was Mark Kinsella from Colchester. It never works out taking players from teams that are worse than us.Todds_right_hook said:I wouldn't want any gillingham player, ticket and the midfielder that we were linked with in the summer. They play for a terrible team, why would we want them
we signed dean kiely from relegated bury but he was their star player. Whenever I see gillingham, they look like a team that realise they are in trouble. The manager doesn't want to be there which is causing players to regress and not progress. I wouldn't want one of their players at this stage! Maybe in the summer when they have a pre season with a new team and a chance to train and build confidence. Such as stevens and Taylor and even kieley. Kinsella wasn't signed from a team getting spanked every week. So, apart from your examples not joining in Jan and not playing for a team in relegation free fall, I can see the rationale in your comparison!!!!!
buy a player in Jan and they are expected to play. Why buy a player who plays for an awful team, a player short on confidence and in a losing mentality?Purrington was on loan at Wimbledon and they were not in free fall. It's taken DJ 9 months to establish himself.
Dobson wasn't signed in January. He was also instrumental in Wimbledon finishing their highest potion in 4-5 seasons.
the point I'm making is that we would not be signing the same ticker and dempsey we were linked with 5 months ago. 5 months is a long time in football and I wouldn't want them now. January is not a time for signing players and expecting an immediate impact. Some signings do hit the ground running but some don't. I think younger loans are the way forward in January0 -
I think we consider players on their own merits and don't give much consideration to who they play for. Especially with the new data-driven black box picking out players for their individual statistics.0
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Were Wimbledon not? They'd won 6 games and lost 16 in 26 when Purrington left, including a run of 8 losses. Sounds like a losing habit to me. He then joined us and lost 2 games in 21, won 15 including a play-off final. DJ also proves the point; he struggled to establish himself under Bowyer, did very well for Adkins at the tail end, then faded away when things went tits up and is looking excellent under Jackson again. Because when you take a good player and put him in a decent team that's working with a good manager they're still a good player. I never said Dobson was signed in January, I pointed out that all it took was Jackson taking him over to go from a total wreck to a top player at this level. Good players are good players. Change their environment for the better or the worse and their performances may change accordingly, but they're still good players. If you don't want a player because he's had a difficult 5 months in a poor team, but would have liked him before then thank god you're not in charge of transfers.Todds_right_hook said:
Including our game, 6 times. I have a friend who lives in a caravan. It's not right there at the moment and players are getting worse.Garrymanilow said:
How often do you watch Gillingham? Enough to know that their players have a losing mentality that nothing can fix, never mind that all it took for our players to chuck theirs was a change of manager? For a January example, we took Ben Purrington from Wimbledon in January and they finished just outside the relegation spots. I seem to remember him doing ok given he scored one of the goals that got us promoted out of the league at Wembley and he's currently our third top scorer. We also signed DJ from a terrible Swindon side in January and he's part of our fun winning habit team. George Dobson went from being a player who couldn't make our bench in a team in the relegation places (losing mentality) to our most effective player (winning mentality) and it took him exactly one game to get there. 'All players at teams in bad form can only be bad players' is a top level bad takeTodds_right_hook said:
I haven't said buying players from lower teams is bad, I'm saying buying players from gillingham is bad. They look absolutely awful. Not losing is a very good habit, a habit Charlton have developed recently. A habit gillingham haven't developed. Let's sign Scunthorpe's star players why we are it?Callumcafc said:
Agree - Dale Stephens from Oldham & Matt Taylor from Exeter were dreadful players when they signed in 2011. So was Mark Kinsella from Colchester. It never works out taking players from teams that are worse than us.Todds_right_hook said:I wouldn't want any gillingham player, ticket and the midfielder that we were linked with in the summer. They play for a terrible team, why would we want them
we signed dean kiely from relegated bury but he was their star player. Whenever I see gillingham, they look like a team that realise they are in trouble. The manager doesn't want to be there which is causing players to regress and not progress. I wouldn't want one of their players at this stage! Maybe in the summer when they have a pre season with a new team and a chance to train and build confidence. Such as stevens and Taylor and even kieley. Kinsella wasn't signed from a team getting spanked every week. So, apart from your examples not joining in Jan and not playing for a team in relegation free fall, I can see the rationale in your comparison!!!!!
buy a player in Jan and they are expected to play. Why buy a player who plays for an awful team, a player short on confidence and in a losing mentality?Purrington was on loan at Wimbledon and they were not in free fall. It's taken DJ 9 months to establish himself.
Dobson wasn't signed in January. He was also instrumental in Wimbledon finishing their highest potion in 4-5 seasons.
the point I'm making is that we would not be signing the same ticker and dempsey we were linked with 5 months ago. 5 months is a long time in football and I wouldn't want them now. January is not a time for signing players and expecting an immediate impact. Some signings do hit the ground running but some don't. I think younger loans are the way forward in January
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Why, is it a dodgy ticker now?Todds_right_hook said:
Including our game, 6 times. I have a friend who lives in a caravan. It's not right there at the moment and players are getting worse.Garrymanilow said:
How often do you watch Gillingham? Enough to know that their players have a losing mentality that nothing can fix, never mind that all it took for our players to chuck theirs was a change of manager? For a January example, we took Ben Purrington from Wimbledon in January and they finished just outside the relegation spots. I seem to remember him doing ok given he scored one of the goals that got us promoted out of the league at Wembley and he's currently our third top scorer. We also signed DJ from a terrible Swindon side in January and he's part of our fun winning habit team. George Dobson went from being a player who couldn't make our bench in a team in the relegation places (losing mentality) to our most effective player (winning mentality) and it took him exactly one game to get there. 'All players at teams in bad form can only be bad players' is a top level bad takeTodds_right_hook said:
I haven't said buying players from lower teams is bad, I'm saying buying players from gillingham is bad. They look absolutely awful. Not losing is a very good habit, a habit Charlton have developed recently. A habit gillingham haven't developed. Let's sign Scunthorpe's star players why we are it?Callumcafc said:
Agree - Dale Stephens from Oldham & Matt Taylor from Exeter were dreadful players when they signed in 2011. So was Mark Kinsella from Colchester. It never works out taking players from teams that are worse than us.Todds_right_hook said:I wouldn't want any gillingham player, ticket and the midfielder that we were linked with in the summer. They play for a terrible team, why would we want them
we signed dean kiely from relegated bury but he was their star player. Whenever I see gillingham, they look like a team that realise they are in trouble. The manager doesn't want to be there which is causing players to regress and not progress. I wouldn't want one of their players at this stage! Maybe in the summer when they have a pre season with a new team and a chance to train and build confidence. Such as stevens and Taylor and even kieley. Kinsella wasn't signed from a team getting spanked every week. So, apart from your examples not joining in Jan and not playing for a team in relegation free fall, I can see the rationale in your comparison!!!!!
buy a player in Jan and they are expected to play. Why buy a player who plays for an awful team, a player short on confidence and in a losing mentality?Purrington was on loan at Wimbledon and they were not in free fall. It's taken DJ 9 months to establish himself.
Dobson wasn't signed in January. He was also instrumental in Wimbledon finishing their highest potion in 4-5 seasons.
the point I'm making is that we would not be signing the same ticker and dempsey we were linked with 5 months ago. 5 months is a long time in football and I wouldn't want them now. January is not a time for signing players and expecting an immediate impact. Some signings do hit the ground running but some don't. I think younger loans are the way forward in January0 -
The Athletic is carrying an article this morning saying that some Prem clubs will not be letting fringe players out on loan because of Covid
Will this affect our recruitment?0 -
Not Compulsory Basic Training?Wheresmeticket? said:
It's mostly psychological. He needs cognitive behavioural therapy.addick1956 said:
How bad is CBT's injury ?sammy391 said:
With CBT injured, and Kirk not kicking on - hate having to rely on Leko who is extremely hit and miss!cafcfan1990 said:
A winger is the last position we need, especially in our current formationsammy391 said:Striker x2
work horse/water carrier midfielder to replace arter
Winger
then use bakrin & elerewere as CB cover with innis0 -
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Or cock and ball torture?1
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Indeed. Followed to its logical conclusion, the best team in the world would never buy anyone.Callumcafc said:
Agree - Dale Stephens from Oldham & Matt Taylor from Exeter were dreadful players when they signed in 2011. So was Mark Kinsella from Colchester. It never works out taking players from teams that are worse than us.Todds_right_hook said:I wouldn't want any gillingham player, ticket and the midfielder that we were linked with in the summer. They play for a terrible team, why would we want them1 -
Tucker is one of the better defenders in our division according to the stats. He's blocked the most shots in the league with 24CafcSCP said:
Maybe he’s been shite this season and is part of the crap they’ve been churning outSoundAsa£ said:
If he lives in Gillingham he’ll jump at the chance.Garrymanilow said:I'd be surprised if Tucker came to us in January. He'll have a lot of Championship clubs after him on a free transfer in the summer and his agent will likely be telling him to wait for the big offers. Our best bet is probably to get promoted and hope he doesn't feel like moving house
He's also ranked 6for defensive duels
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I really like him. Excellent wing-back. Really food going forward from anywhere on the right.Garrymanilow said:I quite like Kane Wilson at Forest Green, he's from the same West Brom youth batch as Leko and Sam Field. Matty Stevens is having a good season over there as well. Maybe less likely in January but if they don't go up they'd be possible. I also liked the look of James Hill but apparently he's being looked at by Burnley and, er, Barcelona so might be slightly beyond our reach
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Though on reflection if we sign another RWB called Wilson some people on here might have Vietnam-style PTSD setbacksSwisdom said:
I really like him. Excellent wing-back. Really food going forward from anywhere on the right.Garrymanilow said:I quite like Kane Wilson at Forest Green, he's from the same West Brom youth batch as Leko and Sam Field. Matty Stevens is having a good season over there as well. Maybe less likely in January but if they don't go up they'd be possible. I also liked the look of James Hill but apparently he's being looked at by Burnley and, er, Barcelona so might be slightly beyond our reach
He's one I would like us to look at very much
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signing Famewo and Lee plus new contracts for Washington & Purrington would be a good start7
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We should sign Faiq Bolkiah, just been released from his contract, I think he went to the same school as Roddy Jnr.2
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What about the left back at Exeter you were keen on in the summer?Swisdom said:
I really like him. Excellent wing-back. Really food going forward from anywhere on the right.Garrymanilow said:I quite like Kane Wilson at Forest Green, he's from the same West Brom youth batch as Leko and Sam Field. Matty Stevens is having a good season over there as well. Maybe less likely in January but if they don't go up they'd be possible. I also liked the look of James Hill but apparently he's being looked at by Burnley and, er, Barcelona so might be slightly beyond our reach
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I hear we’re after a Burundian midfielder.2
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I don't anticipate major surgery this window. Looking at our 2 defeats under JJ so far, it's clear that we lack;
Cover for Famewo. A left footed centre back who is comfortable with getting us up the field on that left side of the back 3.
A striker to replace and push Stocks or Washy for a start in the lineup.8 -
Jack Sparkes broke his collar bone at the beginning of the season and has recently got fit again. He has been loaned out to Torquay to get some match fitness as he was still getting niggly injuries after that.Cafc43v3r said:
What about the left back at Exeter you were keen on in the summer?Swisdom said:
I really like him. Excellent wing-back. Really food going forward from anywhere on the right.Garrymanilow said:I quite like Kane Wilson at Forest Green, he's from the same West Brom youth batch as Leko and Sam Field. Matty Stevens is having a good season over there as well. Maybe less likely in January but if they don't go up they'd be possible. I also liked the look of James Hill but apparently he's being looked at by Burnley and, er, Barcelona so might be slightly beyond our reach
He's one I would like us to look at very much
Not paid as much attention to him since we have good options on the left and Purrington has had a renaissance under Jacko. Kane Wilson is a right sided wing back and that's an area we certainly need to strengthen in with Matthews proving injury prone and Gunter in his twilight years1 -
I wonder what complications arise in terms of transfer activity and COVID occurrences and protocols...
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Charlton not mentioned in these but gives some idea of the kind of options that could be available in the window…0
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Regarding Jack Payne, that's a pretty bizarre contract agreed by Swindon if it allows one of their best players to leave on a free midway through the season.1
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Might mean a few extra quid in the pot11 -
Joe Gomez leaving for a sizeable fee would be lovely - does anyone know what sort of sell on % we have?0
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Cast your fading memories back ?
The reasons given why Joe Gomez went for only 3.5 million (escape clause) which was a mugging by Liverpool considering that he was the hottest property in town was because the add-ons for games played, international caps and largest of all, a transfer, would push the fee up and up and lovely money would come to Cafc.
Plus Joe, Gomez Senior, Joe's agent only signed the longer new contract at cafc because it was beneficial to not only Joe but to Charlton further down the line.
Because of injuries, Joe career isn't quite where most of us thought it would be coming up to 2022. Amazing to think that if he got a move to say ? *Barcelona, it would be a downward move football wise BUT; adiós Liverpool, hola Barcelona, no más abrazaderas de ruedas en mi coche.
* If Real Madrid, more side ways move football wise but the Spanish still applies !2 -
Didn’t we know before Christmas last year that we already had agreements in place for Miller and Rocket Ronnie, who signed on day 1 of the window. Wonder if any other names will be leaked in next week or so.0
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I have always supported Steve Gallen mainly because of the nature of where we can afford to go shopping and the list of 1st to 5th choice players that we have to work down for a third tier club.
Hits and misses and it will always be that way. Some posters can't grasp that the great unknown is how will players settle in, are they match fit, any niggles despite passing medicals, married, single, partner.
Where will they live ? are they 200 miles away from family and friends ?
They are not robots, despite the nonsense shouted at players who we are supposed to support.
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