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2022 January transfer window thread - Non Charlton, other transfers (D Day p52)

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  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    cabbles said:
    If I had to make a prediction, I reckon Arter’s loan will get terminated, and we’ll loan a forward of some sort.

    I think/hope TS realises that promotion is unlikely, and maybe holds off on spending another couple of hundred grand on a mid season signing like we did last year, that unfortunately didn’t work out.

    Some of you may be more optimistic than I am about putting a run together, but we’ve had a few poor performances like Plymouth & Shrewsbury.  We’d have to go like the clappers and pretty much turn in performances like we did against Ipswich & Plymouth at home every week, and I can’t see that happening unless we added substantial quality.

    I think finish as high as we can without adding any more permanents who may or may not work out, get to the summer, and then let Jacko have a fresh go of it with his squad 
    TS said he expects to sign one young player permanently, maybe two. Also one loan.

    I believe that this his expectation, and although so many things could go wrong, I do think we seem better organised this year.
    I think the one permanent and the loan is already in motion, with the second permanent more of a maybe.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    We are in fairly good shape for next season as for a change, some of our better performers are under contract and we finally get to say goodbye to some plain oldies. 


  • cabbles said:
    If I had to make a prediction, I reckon Arter’s loan will get terminated, and we’ll loan a forward of some sort.

    I think/hope TS realises that promotion is unlikely, and maybe holds off on spending another couple of hundred grand on a mid season signing like we did last year, that unfortunately didn’t work out.

    Some of you may be more optimistic than I am about putting a run together, but we’ve had a few poor performances like Plymouth & Shrewsbury.  We’d have to go like the clappers and pretty much turn in performances like we did against Ipswich & Plymouth at home every week, and I can’t see that happening unless we added substantial quality.

    I think finish as high as we can without adding any more permanents who may or may not work out, get to the summer, and then let Jacko have a fresh go of it with his squad 
    Be shocked if Arter is here past the 5th January. Nailed on to go on Day 1 of the window.
  • Would love to sign Akin on a perm, Will this still happen?
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,244
    Would love to sign Akin on a perm, Will this still happen?
    Norwich will be back in the Championship so I would say it’s unlikely that they would want to dispose of him
  • Could we not buy back Wiredu ourselves and then sell to Forest? 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Not a rumour, no source, but I would love to sign that Connor Dixon from Derby County.
    Young and very good.
    I wonder if there would be any chance.
  • What is the fascination with bringing back former players.  Wired has done reasonably well for colchester but it is not like he is tearing up league 2.  My guess is the Forest link is agent leaking a fake link to the press as a negotiation tactic
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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    Would love to sign Akin on a perm, Will this still happen?
    Norwich will be back in the Championship so I would say it’s unlikely that they would want to dispose of him
    May not be up to them. The loan deal had an agreement to buy, so if we have the money/meet the criteria I don't think they can just revoke it.

    Depends on what the terms of that permanent signing actually were. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    edited December 2021
    What is the fascination with bringing back former players.  Wired has done reasonably well for colchester but it is not like he is tearing up league 2.  My guess is the Forest link is agent leaking a fake link to the press as a negotiation tactic
    If reports are to be believed, he is tearing up League 2 and a Championship move is very much on the cards in the next year. He's a defensive midfielder if you're judging him by his goals/assists.
  • Haven't we got first call on him? He can only go somewhere if we decide not to bring him back?
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Haven't we got first call on him? He can only go somewhere if we decide not to bring him back?
    I think we did have a buy back in his contract and he would suit our formation.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    edited December 2021
    Presumably he'd still have to want to agree terms with us.
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    Like Jordan Zemura, the club have shot themselves in the foot by letting Wiredu go. Who makes these decisions? 

    I’ve seen him play a couple of times for Colchester and he seems to be finding it too easy at that level. I’d be surprised if he came back.
  • I think we should be looking at Harry Pell, would be good cover for all the midfield positions, he ripped us apart at valley. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    Like Jordan Zemura, the club have shot themselves in the foot by letting Wiredu go. Who makes these decisions? 

    I’ve seen him play a couple of times for Colchester and he seems to be finding it too easy at that level. I’d be surprised if he came back.
    In this instance presumably Bowyer. But in general far far more of these decisions are right than wrong. The few who do make it stand out because of their rarity. 
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    I think we should be looking at Harry Pell, would be good cover for all the midfield positions, he ripped us apart at valley. 
    Was that when he wasn’t flapping around on the floor?!!!, I think we contributed in that whole team ripping us apart that night.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited December 2021
    Wiredu was/is a weird one.

    He got plenty of pre-season minutes and looked handy but then never really got near the first team. I would love to have him back and think he would be the perfect puzzle piece to play alongside Dobson and co in the middle of the park.

    Unfortunately, if there's Championship interest, it won't simply be a case of buying him back with the clause and selling him on. Wiredu will want to make the switch directly you would have thought.
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  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Like Jordan Zemura, the club have shot themselves in the foot by letting Wiredu go. Who makes these decisions? 

    I’ve seen him play a couple of times for Colchester and he seems to be finding it too easy at that level. I’d be surprised if he came back.
    I do not believe that there were many, if any, that wanted him to leave but finance’s at the time made it necessary, hence the buy back clause.
    If we do not sign him back I expect a very large slice of the fee.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    Bring Weirdu back and send Morgan on loan to Colchester to soften the blow of them losing him. Keep that relationship going as they could be handy for us in future. Brendan is miles better than Albie and that’s not me being harsh, I just feel he’s a better player and will go further in the game. 
  • Tony Watt dropped by Motherwell after reports he signed pre contract agreement with Dundee Utd
    Is he out of contract in the summer or in Jan?  Can you sign a pre-contract with teams in the same country?  Thought it was teams abroad only?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Redrobo said:
    Haven't we got first call on him? He can only go somewhere if we decide not to bring him back?
    I think we did have a buy back in his contract and he would suit our formation.
    I believe you're right. Something written into the sale about us having 1st option if Colchester wanted to sell.


  • Oggy Red said:
    Redrobo said:
    Haven't we got first call on him? He can only go somewhere if we decide not to bring him back?
    I think we did have a buy back in his contract and he would suit our formation.
    I believe you're right. Something written into the sale about us having 1st option if Colchester wanted to sell.


    Pretty meaningless really. If there’s competition for his signature we’d still have match any offers Colchester and the player received in order to get him. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Sage said:
    Bring Weirdu back and send Morgan on loan to Colchester to soften the blow of them losing him. Keep that relationship going as they could be handy for us in future. Brendan is miles better than Albie and that’s not me being harsh, I just feel he’s a better player and will go further in the game. 
    First you want to weaken them by taking their best player, then you want to weaken them even more by giving them Morgan!  ;)
  • Oggy Red said:
    Redrobo said:
    Haven't we got first call on him? He can only go somewhere if we decide not to bring him back?
    I think we did have a buy back in his contract and he would suit our formation.
    I believe you're right. Something written into the sale about us having 1st option if Colchester wanted to sell.


    Pretty meaningless really. If there’s competition for his signature we’d still have match any offers Colchester and the player received in order to get him. 
    It depends on what the contract says. If it says that if the player is sold, we have the first rights to buy back the player and will pay a fixed fee of £150k, then it would be irrelevant if Forest offered £500k

    We could of course buy him for £150k and then sell him to Forest for £500k if we wanted

    I assume Colchester got him from us for peanuts, so would still make a profit
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Why would Wiredu agree to join us purely to be sold on for profit? I think most buy backs have a set fee but if there’s Championship interest he’s not coming back 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Why would Wiredu agree to join us purely to be sold on for profit? I think most buy backs have a set fee but if there’s Championship interest he’s not coming back 
    It could make him expensive.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,897
    he fell out with bowyer - shame coz the few times i saw him play i thought he looked a real prospect - doubt we'd compete with forest