You have to say that with Arter, Watson, Kirk, Schwartz, Souare and to an extent Matthews our recruitment has been expensive and fairly poor.
Certainly well under performing the budget for a few transfer windows. So the question would be why? Insufficient scouts? Poor judgement? I know not all transfers come off but these are likely amongst our bigger ones from an income commitment perspective I would think.
A lot of people saying that we're going nowhere this year - and now is the ideal time to rebuild for next season.
They may be right, of course. But I don't believe Jacko and his coaching team are ready to surrender this season just yet - although no doubt they realise it's a tough ask. Jacko says:
“I don’t stare at the league table and think about gaps, or things like that. I think about the next game. What we need to do to try and win it. If we win enough it will take us where we want to go – if not we’ll fall short.
“We’re coming from a long way behind, aren’t we? It was always going to be a difficult task.”
We have a very decent team for this level, providing we can field our best XI every game. But if one or more key players are missing, that's when we struggle.
This transfer window, that surely is the issue that will be addressed?
But isn’t the gap (14 points) bigger than it was before JJ took over?
That's not really my point though.
I just wanted to say that some people have been very quick to already surrender this season at the half way point ...... but perhaps they are not listening to what the manager is actually saying?
Jacko himself has acknowledged that it's a tough task - but it's evident that, despite the points gap, as it stands the playoffs are still the management team target.
We've got a decent first choice XI. I reckon any transfer business will address strengthening that.
We don't need a rebuild now or in the summer. But we do need to strengthen what we already have.
Without spending too much money, there's bound to be some wheeling and dealing. And some squad players will surely move on to make room for a couple of younger or upgrade players?
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
Pearce has been a great servant for almost 5 years. He will be fondly remembered by a lot of supporters
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
Pearce has been a great servant for almost 5 years. He will be fondly remembered by a lot of supporters
And to be fair, Pearce has been very good this season, and I had 100% written him off after his appalling displays last season. So hands up from me on that one.
Agree Pearce has been a great player for us and is still doing a job. But I also agree on signing older players is a bad thing we should be building a squad that will grow with the club. I would also add that we should stop hanging onto players from our academy that plainly are not good enough the sentiment does them or the club any favours
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
Pearce has been a great servant for almost 5 years. He will be fondly remembered by a lot of supporters
Signed at 28.
If he was signed today, is he a player to get us out of League One? No.
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
We shouldn't sign anyone under 25 either. Kirk, Levitt, Matt Smiths do nothing to help us....... In fact we once signed a 27 year old and they were shit.
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
Pearce has been a great servant for almost 5 years. He will be fondly remembered by a lot of supporters
Signed at 28.
If he was signed today, is he a player to get us out of League One? No.
No, he wasn’t signed today.
That’s why it’s not fair to include him on a list with Arter, Souare or Watson because unlike them, Pearce has made 150+ appearances and captained Charlton to a Play-off final victory.
He’s probably one of the best value for money signings we’ve ever made.
Marquis has lost his first team place at Pompey but would be better than Davison. If he scored goals we would soon forgive him for being a Millwall fan (like Doughty). He will probably return to Doncaster.
The main issue with Marquis is that he just isn't any good.
Still an improvement on what we've got.
Maybe so but we should be able to attract a better calibre of player.
We're a mid table League 1 side, can we really attract a better player as back up to Stockley? I can't see us getting anyone better who is proven, best chance would be a punt which could go either way.
Tbf any signing can go either way.
The potential at Charlton is there to be seen and players like Stockton at Morecambe may jump at the chance to be part of it even now, as a mid table league 1 team.
If Pompey wanted to loan him to us until the end of the season so they can bring someone else then maybe but long term....na. Even loan would be a last resort from me.
Fair enough. To be fair, I'm not massive on Marquis but I also think we need to be realistic about where we are. And to be honest, Stockley and Washington are a decent partnership, we're just looking for one or two that can come in and compete because we are half the side without either of them. Marquis is no superstar but no absolute donkey either.
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
Pearce has been a great servant for almost 5 years. He will be fondly remembered by a lot of supporters
Signed at 28.
If he was signed today, is he a player to get us out of League One? No.
No, he wasn’t signed today.
That’s why it’s not fair to include him on a list with Arter, Souare or Watson because unlike them, Pearce has made 150+ appearances and captained Charlton to a Play-off final victory.
He’s probably one of the best value for money signings we’ve ever made.
I get that you like Jason Pearce for his 5 out of 6 League One Seasons but that comment is nonsense and means you have a very short memory.
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
I agree with this to a certain extent. Young and hungry players is the way to go. However, if the right 30 year old became available, I would go for it.
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
Pearce has been a great servant for almost 5 years. He will be fondly remembered by a lot of supporters
Signed at 28.
If he was signed today, is he a player to get us out of League One? No.
No, he wasn’t signed today.
That’s why it’s not fair to include him on a list with Arter, Souare or Watson because unlike them, Pearce has made 150+ appearances and captained Charlton to a Play-off final victory.
He’s probably one of the best value for money signings we’ve ever made.
Leaving Pearce out of this at the moment, it can work and has for us in the past, Harry Cripps, Terry Naylor. I know that everyone wants players for the future but I believe we have them and will soon be knocking on the first team door. I don't think that Jacko and his team have wrote this season off and if we were to win the next two league games we are back to requiring two points a game, which everyone thought was possible before Plymouth and Wycombe.
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
Pearce has been a great servant for almost 5 years. He will be fondly remembered by a lot of supporters
Signed at 28.
If he was signed today, is he a player to get us out of League One? No.
But he got us out of League One in 2019, didn't he?
And he got Wigan out of League One a year or two before that.
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
I agree with this to a certain extent. Young and hungry players is the way to go. However, if the right 30 year old became available, I would go for it.
Dead right. In every team experience is priceless. Every team needs a couple of old heads.
Jason Pearce is 34 ..... and hungry.
He's an organiser, warrior, captain and leader. His appetite to play is obvious. His influence is huge in the dressing room.
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
Pearce has been a great servant for almost 5 years. He will be fondly remembered by a lot of supporters
Signed at 28.
If he was signed today, is he a player to get us out of League One? No.
But he got us out of League One in 2019, didn't he?
And he got Wigan out of League One a year or two before that.
He also help us get out of The Championship the following season. Too many silly fouls for my liking.
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
Pearce has been a great servant for almost 5 years. He will be fondly remembered by a lot of supporters
Signed at 28.
If he was signed today, is he a player to get us out of League One? No.
But he got us out of League One in 2019, didn't he?
And he got Wigan out of League One a year or two before that.
He also help us get out of The Championship the following season. Too many silly fouls for my liking.
Relegation that year wasn't totally Jason Pearce's fault though, was it?
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
I agree with this to a certain extent. Young and hungry players is the way to go. However, if the right 30 year old became available, I would go for it.
Dead right. In every team experience is priceless. Every team needs a couple of old heads.
Jason Pearce is 34 ..... and hungry.
He's an organiser, warrior, captain and leader. His appetite to play is obvious. His influence is huge in the dressing room.
That's why his managers pick him.
In a side 13th in League One.
He is not a promotion chasing CB anymore and hasn't been since we got relegated from the Championship.
There are 18 year olds out there that would improve us. There are 35 year olds out there that would improve us. There are players of every age in between from the "super league" clubs to the dog and duck second 11. The trick is finding the RIGHT ones for us.
All this talk of going on journeys is bollocks while we are midtable in league 1. Powell signed a mixture of gambles, proven league 1 performers, old hands, steddy Eddie's. Some worked , some didn't, some push on to the championship, some didn't.
There is no magic formula but you need balance and we don't have the right balance.
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
I agree with this to a certain extent. Young and hungry players is the way to go. However, if the right 30 year old became available, I would go for it.
Dead right. In every team experience is priceless. Every team needs a couple of old heads.
Jason Pearce is 34 ..... and hungry.
He's an organiser, warrior, captain and leader. His appetite to play is obvious. His influence is huge in the dressing room.
That's why his managers pick him.
In a side 13th in League One.
He is not a promotion chasing CB anymore and hasn't been since we got relegated from the Championship.
I think 2011-12, you would've been able to pick holes in about half of the transfers we made... Hayes, Taylor, Sullivan, Hughes, Euell, Kermorgant, Clarke, Cort, Haynes... all on the older side and/or injury prone.
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
Pearce has been a great servant for almost 5 years. He will be fondly remembered by a lot of supporters
Signed at 28.
If he was signed today, is he a player to get us out of League One? No.
But he got us out of League One in 2019, didn't he?
And he got Wigan out of League One a year or two before that.
He also help us get out of The Championship the following season. Too many silly fouls for my liking.
Relegation that year wasn't totally Jason Pearce's fault though, was it?
There might just have been other factors?
Same as promotion the season before.....or is it just one way ?
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Certainly well under performing the budget for a few transfer windows. So the question would be why? Insufficient scouts? Poor judgement? I know not all transfers come off but these are likely amongst our bigger ones from an income commitment perspective I would think.
I just wanted to say that some people have been very quick to already surrender this season at the half way point ...... but perhaps they are not listening to what the manager is actually saying?
Jacko himself has acknowledged that it's a tough task - but it's evident that, despite the points gap, as it stands the playoffs are still the management team target.
We've got a decent first choice XI. I reckon any transfer business will address strengthening that.
We don't need a rebuild now or in the summer.
But we do need to strengthen what we already have.
Without spending too much money, there's bound to be some wheeling and dealing. And some squad players will surely move on to make room for a couple of younger or upgrade players?
It's wasted money spent on a player that will give us a season and move on again. We need to actually start building a team of good, young hungry players.
Fixers like Pearce, Arter, Souare and Watson do nothing to help us 2-3 years down the line.
If he was signed today, is he a player to get us out of League One? No.
The last time it worked out is Pratley. Even he was a limited player surrounded by much better younger players.
Since then we've tried:
Hemed, Ledley, McGeady, Gunter, Watson, Schwartz, Shinnie, Souare, Henderson and Arter.
None of which look capable of getting into a promotion winning team.
And he got Wigan out of League One a year or two before that.
Jason Pearce is 34 ..... and hungry.
He's an organiser, warrior, captain and leader. His appetite to play is obvious. His influence is huge in the dressing room.
That's why his managers pick him.
Piggott might be an option, or Louie Barry who's just been recalled by Villa
There might just have been other factors?
He is not a promotion chasing CB anymore and hasn't been since we got relegated from the Championship.
All this talk of going on journeys is bollocks while we are midtable in league 1. Powell signed a mixture of gambles, proven league 1 performers, old hands, steddy Eddie's. Some worked , some didn't, some push on to the championship, some didn't.
There is no magic formula but you need balance and we don't have the right balance.