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2022 January transfer window thread - Non Charlton, other transfers (D Day p52)

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    edited January 2022
    If Lyle got our very very very unlikely playoff ambitions back on track why on earth wouldn’t anyone want him back. Without a player of his ability both this and next season we won’t be going anywhere.
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    If Lyle got our very very very unlikely playoff ambitions back on track why on earth wouldn’t anyone want him back. Without a player of his ability both this and next season we won’t be going anywhere.
    Some things are more important than success on the pitch. What he did was unforgivable and I hope the club wouldn’t sacrifice their morals for a mercenary who sold us down the river. 

    The season is over, we could have Ronaldo up front and we still wouldn’t make 6th.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    If Lyle got our very very very unlikely playoff ambitions back on track why on earth wouldn’t anyone want him back. Without a player of his ability both this and next season we won’t be going anywhere.
    Some things are more important than success on the pitch. What he did was unforgivable and I hope the club wouldn’t sacrifice their morals for a mercenary who sold us down the river. 

    The season is over, we could have Ronaldo up front and we still wouldn’t make 6th.
    He is 45 and about 18 stone though. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    If Lyle got our very very very unlikely playoff ambitions back on track why on earth wouldn’t anyone want him back. Without a player of his ability both this and next season we won’t be going anywhere.
    Exactly.

    I am in the minority, would take him back in a heartbeat.

    What happened before, happened. He could have played and we still go down. And yes I know it’s not about that, it’s what happened and how it happened and how it was all about him and we would have had a better chance but we still could have gone down.

    Being so precious and holding onto that pain from before to ensure we inflict more pain on ourself by standing still in this awful league makes no sense. It’s insane.

    If he were to ever come back (which he won’t now) he’d likely make the difference between success and failure. Turning down success when the club desperately needs it, beyond me.

    Anyway, Aneke on his way and least we should enjoy watching him when he’s on the pitch for the rest of this season. 
  • If Lyle got our very very very unlikely playoff ambitions back on track why on earth wouldn’t anyone want him back. Without a player of his ability both this and next season we won’t be going anywhere.
    Some things are more important than success on the pitch. What he did was unforgivable and I hope the club wouldn’t sacrifice their morals for a mercenary who sold us down the river. 

    The season is over, we could have Ronaldo up front and we still wouldn’t make 6th.
    He’s a football mercenary. 95% of players are. He did what suited him best. Football clubs are no different to any other business for most employees. It’s us fans that get all precious and gooey eyed over it.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    Not to mention football fans are fickle. Gallen has also said previously he thinks if he ever came back and quickly started scoring goals, fans would take it and get on side again. And I make him right.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,031
    Jack Payne is one of those players who has been linked with us a few times over the years . I would only sign him for 18 months and then review the situation . I agree that he might not fit in  to the Championship , but he could be part of a promotion squad next season . As a left footer he does offer us something different or can we rely on JFC ? 

    He fits one of our patterns for new signings . He is currently injured .

    Swindon Town predicted line up and injury news for Man City FA Cup fixture - Manchester Evening News

  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    edited January 2022
    If Lyle got our very very very unlikely playoff ambitions back on track why on earth wouldn’t anyone want him back. Without a player of his ability both this and next season we won’t be going anywhere.
    Because one of the main reasons we are currently trying to see if we can break into League 1 play offs is because our main talisman refused to play and see out his contract (I shouldn’t have to explain it really) 

    You don’t do that. Yes, there are many reasons we went down that year but if Lyle had played and put some of them chances away we just kept missing, we stay up. 

    Either way, you don’t refuse to see out your contract because you have a better deal elsewhere and don’t want to mess it up. 

    I find it amazing people would actually accept him back 😂
  • Can't believe Coutinho has signed for Villa.  What a signing that is for them!!
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    If Lyle got our very very very unlikely playoff ambitions back on track why on earth wouldn’t anyone want him back. Without a player of his ability both this and next season we won’t be going anywhere.
    Some things are more important than success on the pitch. What he did was unforgivable and I hope the club wouldn’t sacrifice their morals for a mercenary who sold us down the river. 

    The season is over, we could have Ronaldo up front and we still wouldn’t make 6th.
    Bingo 
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  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    Sage said:
    If Lyle got our very very very unlikely playoff ambitions back on track why on earth wouldn’t anyone want him back. Without a player of his ability both this and next season we won’t be going anywhere.
    Exactly.

    I am in the minority, would take him back in a heartbeat.

    What happened before, happened. He could have played and we still go down. And yes I know it’s not about that, it’s what happened and how it happened and how it was all about him and we would have had a better chance but we still could have gone down.

    Being so precious and holding onto that pain from before to ensure we inflict more pain on ourself by standing still in this awful league makes no sense. It’s insane.

    If he were to ever come back (which he won’t now) he’d likely make the difference between success and failure. Turning down success when the club desperately needs it, beyond me.

    Anyway, Aneke on his way and least we should enjoy watching him when he’s on the pitch for the rest of this season. 
    Do you genuinely believe we’d make the play-offs (what is the gap, 14 points?) if we signed Lyle Taylor in January? 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    When Taylor was on the actual pitch playing for us I thought he was very good and best of all gave everything.
    And scored goals.
    As a player great, the other things matter if he is no good on the pitch, hides, and doesn’t score goals.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,457
    I really think some of you fail to see the fickleness of the game you love so much.
    It's shithouse on every level. No player,certainly most cares about the badge or the sacrifice fans make each week despite what they say.

    You need to take it for what it is. 
  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    Sage said:
    If Lyle got our very very very unlikely playoff ambitions back on track why on earth wouldn’t anyone want him back. Without a player of his ability both this and next season we won’t be going anywhere.
    Exactly.

    I am in the minority, would take him back in a heartbeat.

    What happened before, happened. He could have played and we still go down. And yes I know it’s not about that, it’s what happened and how it happened and how it was all about him and we would have had a better chance but we still could have gone down.

    Being so precious and holding onto that pain from before to ensure we inflict more pain on ourself by standing still in this awful league makes no sense. It’s insane.

    If he were to ever come back (which he won’t now) he’d likely make the difference between success and failure. Turning down success when the club desperately needs it, beyond me.

    Anyway, Aneke on his way and least we should enjoy watching him when he’s on the pitch for the rest of this season. 
    The difference is that Taylor isn't the only striker in the world capable of scoring enough goals for us to get us into the championship. We need a striker yeah but specifically we don't need him.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    Richard J said:
    Jack Payne is one of those players who has been linked with us a few times over the years . I would only sign him for 18 months and then review the situation . I agree that he might not fit in  to the Championship , but he could be part of a promotion squad next season . As a left footer he does offer us something different or can we rely on JFC ? 

    He fits one of our patterns for new signings . He is currently injured .

    Swindon Town predicted line up and injury news for Man City FA Cup fixture - Manchester Evening News

    midfield is no way a priority .. defence and attack are
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    Lyle Taylor .. YES Please 
    Chuks Aneke .. NO Thanks
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,698
    Dont know much Jack Payne but if he speeds up Albies exit then happy days. 

    I see his Swindon so is Jon Fortune his agent? As he brokered the DJ transfer also so not sure if he represented a couple more players there. 
  • Sage said:
    If Lyle got our very very very unlikely playoff ambitions back on track why on earth wouldn’t anyone want him back. Without a player of his ability both this and next season we won’t be going anywhere.
    Exactly.

    I am in the minority, would take him back in a heartbeat.

    What happened before, happened. He could have played and we still go down. And yes I know it’s not about that, it’s what happened and how it happened and how it was all about him and we would have had a better chance but we still could have gone down.

    Being so precious and holding onto that pain from before to ensure we inflict more pain on ourself by standing still in this awful league makes no sense. It’s insane.

    If he were to ever come back (which he won’t now) he’d likely make the difference between success and failure. Turning down success when the club desperately needs it, beyond me.

    Anyway, Aneke on his way and least we should enjoy watching him when he’s on the pitch for the rest of this season. 
    The difference is that Taylor isn't the only striker in the world capable of scoring enough goals for us to get us into the championship. We need a striker yeah but specifically we don't need him.
    But he might be the only one we can get where we know 100% what he can do.
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    I’d love Chuks to be our impact sub for the rest of the season but I think the Stockley injury changes things as we all know you can’t rely in Chuks for 90mins every Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday.

    The info on Jayden all seems quite vague so my gut is telling me it’s not a 2 week injury.

    tbh the best of the 3 strikers is Lyle, he’s a significant upgrade on Stockley & Chuks ( if motivated) but while I wouldn’t mind I think too much water has oasssd under that bridge.


  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Lyle Taylor isn't coming back. The bloke is so arrogant he actually think we fans treated him poorly when he left. 
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  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,782
    Lyle Taylor isn't coming back. The bloke is so arrogant he actually think we fans treated him poorly when he left. 
    Was thinking about this myself. 
    His ego and attitude, and that fact he came out and said he openly loves getting stick from fans.

    surely he’d love to come back and prove the fans wrong etx
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    I think Chuks will come back on loan.
    He scored for Brum the other day. Maybe they’ll want to keep him. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Richard J said:
    Jack Payne is one of those players who has been linked with us a few times over the years . I would only sign him for 18 months and then review the situation . I agree that he might not fit in  to the Championship , but he could be part of a promotion squad next season . As a left footer he does offer us something different or can we rely on JFC ? 

    He fits one of our patterns for new signings . He is currently injured .

    Swindon Town predicted line up and injury news for Man City FA Cup fixture - Manchester Evening News

    midfield is no way a priority .. defence and attack are
    We already one injury, suspension, Covid case away from Watson and Morgan.  Jackson's willingness to use neither of them shows what he thinks of them. 
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    I always remember being told by one of LT’s good friends that he was furious with Bow.

    Apparently after he made the decision to leave Bow & him agreed it would be kept in house but Bow then broke his word and went to the press and LT was steaming that a trust had been broken and wouldn’t play for him again.

    Ive often wondered if LT might have changed his mind if Bow had done differently. 

    Still all in the past now.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    edited January 2022
    Sage said:
    If Lyle got our very very very unlikely playoff ambitions back on track why on earth wouldn’t anyone want him back. Without a player of his ability both this and next season we won’t be going anywhere.
    Exactly.

    I am in the minority, would take him back in a heartbeat.

    What happened before, happened. He could have played and we still go down. And yes I know it’s not about that, it’s what happened and how it happened and how it was all about him and we would have had a better chance but we still could have gone down.

    Being so precious and holding onto that pain from before to ensure we inflict more pain on ourself by standing still in this awful league makes no sense. It’s insane.

    If he were to ever come back (which he won’t now) he’d likely make the difference between success and failure. Turning down success when the club desperately needs it, beyond me.

    Anyway, Aneke on his way and least we should enjoy watching him when he’s on the pitch for the rest of this season. 
    Do you genuinely believe we’d make the play-offs (what is the gap, 14 points?) if we signed Lyle Taylor in January? 
    I didn’t say we would make the play offs, even if we sign him. Because we won’t, to both. But turning down the success on the pitch he would bring (that could be next season) when we desperately need it is insanity.

    I want out of this division as quickly as possible and if someone said to me if you sign Taylor you will be promoted but if you don’t you’ll stay in this awful league for however longer, I wouldn’t hesitate in the slightest.

    I think it’s a shame that so many would when in reality he missed only 3 games due to when his contract actually expired if he didn’t want to extend beyond the period due to the circumstances. We picked up 7 points in those 3 and only 2 in the remaining 6. And like I said, I know it’s how it happened and the time and the ownership at the time didn’t help, the whole situation was awful.

    But again, football fans are fickle and if he ever came back and scored a load of goals, the past will quickly remain in the past. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    who is this Taylor bloke people are talking about?
  • Maccn05 said:
    I always remember being told by one of LT’s good friends that he was furious with Bow.

    Apparently after he made the decision to leave Bow & him agreed it would be kept in house but Bow then broke his word and went to the press and LT was steaming that a trust had been broken and wouldn’t play for him again.

    Ive often wondered if LT might have changed his mind if Bow had done differently. 

    Still all in the past now.
    Sorry but that sounds like a load of rubbish to me. Nobody was expecting him to sign a new contract with us. As such so to say a breach of trust, on something that the world and his wife knew, meant he refused to play for us again is laughable.

    I for one would never want him back at Charlton.