Post-match Thread: Morecambe v Charlton Athletic | Tuesday 23 November 2021

Off_it

Redvalleyeast said:

How the hell didnt the ref give a foul on Clare instead of giving them the corner they scored from? Incompetent dickhead

Exactly that. Some very strange decisions today.

We looked tired, but overall were still by far the better team. Had some great opportunities but seemed to overcomplicate it in trying to play through them all the time when they had bodies back. 

Oh well. Can't win them all.

mendonca

Kirk is just a slow and obvious link up player.

Garrymanilow

charlton_hero said:

We can't be playing Gunter at centre half anymore, I thought we learnt that lesson last season.

It was a weird sort of game, Morecambe offered next to nothing and we dominated for large parts, but we looked sloppy and tired throughout. It's two points dropped. Onto the next. 

Not like we could really put anyone else there is it?

ForeverAddickted

Garrymanilow said:

charlton_hero said:

We can't be playing Gunter at centre half anymore, I thought we learnt that lesson last season.

It was a weird sort of game, Morecambe offered next to nothing and we dominated for large parts, but we looked sloppy and tired throughout. It's two points dropped. Onto the next. 

Not like we could really put anyone else there is it?

Deji Elerewe

But then if he's shown to be iffy in training when dealing with a physical striker, then Stockton would have ended his career.

Bedsaddick

One word - Knackered. We were the better team but lacked that cutting edge . Davison was poor . On to Saturday 

vff

Team looked tired. With our main centre backs in, Morecambe unlikely to score either goal. Referee missed clear fouls on Gunter and Clare.  Without those refereering decisions Morecambe don't score and game is won.

Soft penalty. Gunter could have done better but one of regular centre backs is not pushed back like that. Referee then gave a succession of soft free kicks and was inconsistent, giving cards to Charlton but ignoring similar.

Stockley in and Jason Pearce or Sam Lavelle in that game is won. Davisson maybe could have come off earlier for Mason Burstow. Passing was a bit sloppy. Charlton were better near the end with some better possession. Its a draw, with all the players missing its disappointing not to win but its still onwards and upwards. This team is still way better under Johnnie Jackson. 

ForeverAddickted

FishCostaFortune said:

golfaddick said:

Poor game. I thought we did well not to lose it once they got it back to 2-2 but we had the best of the last 10 mins but the lack of quality up front means we couldnt force a winner.

Sorry to say we aren't a top 6 side. Still think we will finish somewhere around 10th to 12th. Look at the table & lots of teams above us have games in hand  & we are realistically 12 points off top 6. 

But seeing where we were a month ago I'll take mid table. If Sandgaard wants promotion he needs to spend money in January. We are at least 1 striker light - probably 2.

This is one of your worst takes and that’s saying something. 

Did Morecambe even have an effort on goal after it went 2-2?

EveshamAddick

Disappointing to throw away a 2 goal lead. Should be winning these games if we want to go up, not least because we were better than them, but also because we were 2-0 up. Dobson, Clare, Purrington, Gilbey, Washington all played a blinder. Gunter poor at crucial moments and Davison not really good enough. Hard to see why we have Kirk. Didn’t really add anything significant when he came on. Lee needs to take more care with his final pass. Hopefully we can get the 3 points on Saturday and it will feel like a decent week.

Southbank

ForeverAddickted said:

Garrymanilow said:

charlton_hero said:

We can't be playing Gunter at centre half anymore, I thought we learnt that lesson last season.

It was a weird sort of game, Morecambe offered next to nothing and we dominated for large parts, but we looked sloppy and tired throughout. It's two points dropped. Onto the next. 

Not like we could really put anyone else there is it?

Deji Elerewe

Deji is not yet strong enough to deal with a bruiser like Stockton. Bringing him in now would risk him getting a knockback.

bingaddick

Leuth said:

Macca is a great shotstopper and even pulled off a cracking assist tonight.

We're unlikely to get promoted with a keeper who never comes for crosses, though, and I've honestly seen enough to know he never will.

Except we did with Kiely, never one to come off his line if he could avoid it....

paulfox

Dazzler21 said:

Shit game. Shit performance, thrown away 2 points. 

A little dramatic Dazzler, admittedly not great but I don’t think as bad as you suggest.

FishCostaFortune

ForeverAddickted said:

FishCostaFortune said:

golfaddick said:

Poor game. I thought we did well not to lose it once they got it back to 2-2 but we had the best of the last 10 mins but the lack of quality up front means we couldnt force a winner.

Sorry to say we aren't a top 6 side. Still think we will finish somewhere around 10th to 12th. Look at the table & lots of teams above us have games in hand  & we are realistically 12 points off top 6. 

But seeing where we were a month ago I'll take mid table. If Sandgaard wants promotion he needs to spend money in January. We are at least 1 striker light - probably 2.

This is one of your worst takes and that’s saying something. 

Did Morecambe even have an effort on goal after it went 2-2?

Did Morecambe even have the ball in our half after it went to 2-2?

SouthWest_Addicks

Always disappointed to throw away a 2-0 lead. Short term injuries are a huge problem. Hoping Jacko will look to freshen it up against Shrewsbury. If we win on Saturday, the 2 points dropped will be forgotten about.

Athletico Charlton

Unbelievable for a ref at this level to blowing up when he did.

We looked tired. Gunter, Clare and Famewo as a back 3 against the cloggers from Morecambe were brave but add in Pearce, Innis or Lavelle in place of Gunter and we win that game.

Davison tries so hard I would love him to do well but we need better Stockley back up, have done all season.

Kirk disappointed with the time and space he had on the ball at the end, I was screaming for him to get down the line and he just Bambi's around then cuts back to his right.

5 wins and 2 draws from 7 is a phenemenal effort and even when we don't win like tonight you can see the effort and game plan which was lacking at the end of Adkins reign.

aliwibble

Scott Minto: You should be absolutely delighted with what's happened so far

Jacko: Yeah I am Scott

Need to tell that to your face Johnnie

MuttleyCAFC

There was an obvious foul on us and the ref took an age to give it. I said to my son that his instinct was he didn't want to but he eventually realised it would have looked ridiculous not to so he gave it. I told him he worried me. A decent ref who didn't have a draw on his betting slip and we would have won that.

JaShea99

Ormiston_Addick said:

Bottom line is that with Pearce/Lavelle/Inniss at the back instead of Gunter and Stockley for Davison we'd have won that 3-0.

You're only as good as your weakest link and that big clogger number 9 attached himself to Gunter in the full knowledge he'd get something - and he was spot on.

Contrast their number 9 with Davison who offered us absolutely nothing up front, he couldn't win a header and failed to hold the ball up at all for us.

Morecambe were delighted with a point, once they took the lead they put ten men behind the ball and never bothered coming out again.

In the January window we desperately need another striker to support Stockley and Washington, Davison is not going to be able to give us what we need unless he raises his game by about 50%.

Dobson was outstanding again, how the hell were Watson and others starting in front of him?

When did they take the lead?? Must have missed that.

ForeverAddickted

aliwibble said:

Scott Minto: You should be absoluely delighted with what's happened so far

Jacko: Yeah I am Scott

Need to tell that to your face Johnnie

Just been told that Hasselbaink is now the No.1 target after we couldnt win that one

_nam11

Gunter got bullied.

Morecambe offered nothing. Literally.

I struggle to see how Kirk fits into any position, with this formation Jacko has got us playing well in.

We looked sloppy and tired towards the end, following big shift Saturday.

Meh. But, I guess if you can’t win the game, don’t lose it.

soapboxsam

Compared to earlier in the season that was light years ahead. We kept trying to find the opening to score and I can't remember the last time we had so much of the ball.

Washington, Dobson and Gilbey were out standing.

We were clearly a striker short and a CB short.

Agree with Brownie, the lack of Stockley, Inniss, Pearce or Lavelle cost us big time at the corner which was a poor goal to give away.

It feels likes a lost but an away point and 14 points from 18 is excellent. The squad is stretched but may only be me but I thought we controlled the 2nd half without the clinical finish.

ct_addick

Jackson got it wrong first half playing Gunter up against Stockton. Rectified that 2nd half.....defensive injuries piling up for us  

ricky_otto

Disappointing result and 2 poor goals conceded We looked very tired. Would have taken 4 points from the 2 games anyway, so not all bad. 14 points out of the possible 18 available under Jackson is a great return. 

mid_life_crisis

We are absolutely jinxed with injuries and shit refs.

vff

ForeverAddickted said:

aliwibble said:

Scott Minto: You should be absoluely delighted with what's happened so far

Jacko: Yeah I am Scott

Need to tell that to your face Johnnie

Just been told that Hasselbaink is now the No.1 target after we couldnt win that one

Absolutely don't want Hasselbaink anywhere near Charlton.

mendonca

Sean Clare's reading of the game is looking good. 

EugenesAxe

I’m not a violent person but I’d have punched that ref right in the fucking mooer!

shirty5

At the game and awaiting a train back to Lancaster.

Boys looked mentally knackered with 20 to go but still kept going till the end. Saturday clearly took his toll but 14 points in the last 6 is top 2 form.

Enjoyable trip with the old faces up here tonight. Can’t beat it with the cold air on your flesh 

Garrymanilow

ForeverAddickted said:

Garrymanilow said:

charlton_hero said:

We can't be playing Gunter at centre half anymore, I thought we learnt that lesson last season.

It was a weird sort of game, Morecambe offered next to nothing and we dominated for large parts, but we looked sloppy and tired throughout. It's two points dropped. Onto the next. 

Not like we could really put anyone else there is it?

Deji Elerewe

But then if he's shown to be iffy in training when dealing with a physical striker, then Stockton would have ended his career.

If he was deemed to be ready he'd be playing. Centre backs are always the least likely to be given an opportunity at a young age, and you particularly wouldn't want to put him in alongside a makeshift defence with a midfielder in it. Deji clearly isn't an option for us from the start at the moment

Leuth

bingaddick said:

Leuth said:

Macca is a great shotstopper and even pulled off a cracking assist tonight.

We're unlikely to get promoted with a keeper who never comes for crosses, though, and I've honestly seen enough to know he never will.

Except we did with Kiely, never one to come off his line if he could avoid it....

I think you could argue fairly persuasively that aerial dominance is more important for a keeper at any professional level in 2021 than it was in 2001

cabbles

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

I thought we looked tired, which is no surprise given the effort on Saturday and we're missing Stockley, Lavelle, Pearce, Inniss, Leko, Matthews, Souare.

In an ideal world we could've probably done with rotating 2-3 players tonight if we had more options. But at least we didn't lose. Win saturday and we'd have had a good week.

Oh and the ref was shit!

Spot on for me.  Started well but after we scored just didn’t have the zip in our play and caught them cold for our second.  So frustrating to concede a pen pretty much straight after, and I thought Gunter got turned too easily.  

We just lacked that bit of quality in the final third and were a bit slow to get the ball up the pitch.  Great ball from Jayisemi for Washington and if he had got his shot away rather than the block that might have been that.  

Got done on a set piece but I admired how we tried to push on after they equalised.  Decent attacking subs by Jackson as well.  We looked the more likely to score after they equalised, but they packed the area well at the end and you could see the likes of Elliott Lee twisting and turning to try and find space, but it was never gonna happen.  

Pleased we didn’t lose and we remain unbeaten and continue to work hard.  Agree with Rich Cawley’s tweet about fatigue and players out.  Think Stockley would’ve been a good option tonight up top to rough their Centre Backs up.  Would’ve given us that presence up top.  

They’ll get their rest in and be ready for Shrewsbury, I’ll get home to Charlton at about 4am when the coach drops us off and the lack of leg room would’ve given me deep vein thrombosis.  We go again