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Covid guidelines for upcoming games
clive
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Following the pre-Christmas updates from the government and EFL, new COVID guidelines will be in place at The Valley until further notice.The new protocols will be in place for the first time for Saturday's game at The Valley against Wycombe Wanderers.
- Supporters will not be permitted without valid COVID certification
- Arrive early to allow extra time to enter the stadium
- Face coverings must be worn in indoor areas of the stadium
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Might not be the right thread to be saying this.
But I would take an LFT before going to any games to be extra safe
Wouldn't just rely on the fact that you've been double vaccinated etc - I've long had both doses of the vaccination, but it didnt stop me getting a positive COVID test recently...
I showed barely any symptoms, and would have presumed that I had nothing more than a cold had I not taken an LFT and the PCR which confirmed COVID - Thankfully I didnt miss any home games during my self-isolation (apart from through choice), yet if I had ignored the symptoms of COVID, and had gone to a Football game, how many could catch it from me?
Quicker we get the numbers back down, the quicker these restrictions get lifted.23 -
Given the Covid numbers in Greenwich at the moment I’m giving going to football a miss.2
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Personally think the EFL should show some common sense ( not going to happen)and allow the games to be streamed so that fans worried about Covid/ have covid can access the game.I know people will say you can use a VPN, but that just shows they have nothing to lose by allowing it legitimately.
I know there is logistical issues but would not allow season ticket holders refunds (I am one) as paying £10 for peace of mind or being able to see a game You couldn’t attend as isolating would be worth it in my opinion.It may also stop some fans around the country from attending when they shouldn’t be.If cases keep rising, I think behind closed doors football is a high probability anyway.14 -
The good people on Facebook are not taking the news of these measures well…
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I saw some of the comments too. Some have said they will stay away from matches until the restrictions are removed, which is probably a good thing for all those who do take their responsibility to others seriously.se9addick said:The good people on Facebook are not taking the news of these measures well…11 -
I take my responsibility to others seriously and follow all the guidelines, but will be going to the matches.ME14addick said:
I saw some of the comments too. Some have said they will stay away from matches until the restrictions are removed, which is probably a good thing for all those who do take their responsibility to others seriously.se9addick said:The good people on Facebook are not taking the news of these measures well…1 -
I don't see how the LFT has any meaning? How do you prove whose it is?0
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👍MStuartPerm said:Personally think the EFL should show some common sense ( not going to happen)and allow the games to be streamed so that fans worried about Covid/ have covid can access the game.I know people will say you can use a VPN, but that just shows they have nothing to lose by allowing it legitimately.
I know there is logistical issues but would not allow season ticket holders refunds (I am one) as paying £10 for peace of mind or being able to see a game You couldn’t attend as isolating would be worth it in my opinion.It may also stop some fans around the country from attending when they shouldn’t be.If cases keep rising, I think behind closed doors football is a high probability anyway.0 -
It has no meaning at all, because it relies on the honesty of the person taking the test.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I don't see how the LFT has any meaning? How do you prove whose it is?4 -
I'm sure you do, but from the comments on the Facebook page, the people who are against the new protocols are the ones who won't have a jab and don't want to take a test.Chippycafc said:
I take my responsibility to others seriously and follow all the guidelines, but will be going to the matches.ME14addick said:
I saw some of the comments too. Some have said they will stay away from matches until the restrictions are removed, which is probably a good thing for all those who do take their responsibility to others seriously.se9addick said:The good people on Facebook are not taking the news of these measures well…5 -
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You don’t just turn up with a white bit of plastic in your hand and show a steward. You are supposed to upload it to the NHS app and show that result, if you are not double vaccinated.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I don't see how the LFT has any meaning? How do you prove whose it is?
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I have covid at the moment but will be released in time for the game on Saturday but just to be safe I will not be going for the safety of others.16
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You can enter whatever result you want, you don't even need to take the test.shirty5 said:
You don’t just turn up with a white bit of plastic in your hand and show a steward. You are supposed to upload it to the NHS app and show that result, if you are not double vaccinated.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I don't see how the LFT has any meaning? How do you prove whose it is?1 -
Sure. The second question still needs answering though.shirty5 said:
You don’t just turn up with a white bit of plastic in your hand and show a steward. You are supposed to upload it to the NHS app and show that result, if you are not double vaccinated.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I don't see how the LFT has any meaning? How do you prove whose it is?0 -
Not everyone can access the App.shirty5 said:
You don’t just turn up with a white bit of plastic in your hand and show a steward. You are supposed to upload it to the NHS app and show that result, if you are not double vaccinated.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I don't see how the LFT has any meaning? How do you prove whose it is?2 -
No need to if you are double jabbed and you have a paper copy from the NHS. If you want to go to events where you need a covid passport or proof of a LFT, then you will do what’s required.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Not everyone can access the App.shirty5 said:
You don’t just turn up with a white bit of plastic in your hand and show a steward. You are supposed to upload it to the NHS app and show that result, if you are not double vaccinated.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I don't see how the LFT has any meaning? How do you prove whose it is?0 -
In all honesty, i am double jabbed but they should do both a lateral and a covid pass, minimum a lateral test. The problem with the LFT is it relies on people being honest and doing it themselves which i frankly dont trust.shirty5 said:
You don’t just turn up with a white bit of plastic in your hand and show a steward. You are supposed to upload it to the NHS app and show that result, if you are not double vaccinated.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I don't see how the LFT has any meaning? How do you prove whose it is?
I went to the Mosconi cup, i only had to show the covid pass even though i had a LFT. obviously being double/triple jabbed does not bypass that you can carry it or might have it even with no symptoms. Personally feel its best to be safe on that front and request LFT even for those who have a covid pass.4 -
Same as driving. Only those who have passed the test and are not banned should be driving on the roads. A lot of our laws/freedoms only work on people complyingME14addick said:
It has no meaning at all, because it relies on the honesty of the person taking the test.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:I don't see how the LFT has any meaning? How do you prove whose it is?5 -
Pleased to see these public health measures introduced and will feel safer at games as a result.
I’m triple jabbed and I’m a fed up that the majority are acting sensibly, whilst a disdainful minority enjoy the benefits of others diligence, whilst simultaneously undermining it.8 -
The latrtsl flow test should not be included in the pass categories. As people have pointed out you can lie about the result and do not even need to take the test. As a person who has little faith in human nature I would expect most LFT for passes to be fake results so people can go to events.3
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I didn't see any mention of the requirements for kids being able to gain access, or am I missing something?
Ignore me - found it!
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It doesn't protect you from getting the virus, as being jabbed doesn't stop you from getting or passing on the virus.IAgree said:Pleased to see these public health measures introduced and will feel safer at games as a result.
I’m triple jabbed and I’m a fed up that the majority are acting sensibly, whilst a disdainful minority enjoy the benefits of others diligence, whilst simultaneously undermining it.
Those who won't get vaccinated can still get in, as all they have to do is report a negative test, they don't even have to take a test. It relies on honesty and I wouldn't trust the honesty of someone who refuses to be jabbed, unless they cannot be jabbed for a valid medical reason.1 -
Your misery is getting me down.ME14addick said:
It doesn't protect you from getting the virus, as being jabbed doesn't stop you from getting or passing on the virus.IAgree said:Pleased to see these public health measures introduced and will feel safer at games as a result.
I’m triple jabbed and I’m a fed up that the majority are acting sensibly, whilst a disdainful minority enjoy the benefits of others diligence, whilst simultaneously undermining it.
Those who won't get vaccinated can still get in, as all they have to do is report a negative test, they don't even have to take a test. It relies on honesty and I wouldn't trust the honesty of someone who refuses to be jabbed, unless they cannot be jabbed for a valid medical reason.
I don't think you're even going anyway.6 -
Don't get why people would object. Not a massive infringement on individual freedom is it surely i.e. wear a mask for the 8 seconds or so it takes to walk through the concourse or ten minutes to queue for a pie and pint.
And take an LFT that morning before the game which takes 2 minutes.
It's about protecting fellow fans not necessarily yourself.
Can't understand people's reluctance to doing the bare minimum to mitigate potential harm to others with barely any inconvenience.
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People are thinking that they're safe when that isn't true. I am pointing out the reality.Covered End said:
Your misery is getting me down.ME14addick said:
It doesn't protect you from getting the virus, as being jabbed doesn't stop you from getting or passing on the virus.IAgree said:Pleased to see these public health measures introduced and will feel safer at games as a result.
I’m triple jabbed and I’m a fed up that the majority are acting sensibly, whilst a disdainful minority enjoy the benefits of others diligence, whilst simultaneously undermining it.
Those who won't get vaccinated can still get in, as all they have to do is report a negative test, they don't even have to take a test. It relies on honesty and I wouldn't trust the honesty of someone who refuses to be jabbed, unless they cannot be jabbed for a valid medical reason.
I don't think you're even going anyway.
Fine if you want to go, but people should know the risks of going.2 -
I think people are fully aware of the risks and wheather to go or not is a personal choice.ME14addick said:
People are thinking that they're safe when that isn't true. I am pointing out the reality.Covered End said:
Your misery is getting me down.ME14addick said:
It doesn't protect you from getting the virus, as being jabbed doesn't stop you from getting or passing on the virus.IAgree said:Pleased to see these public health measures introduced and will feel safer at games as a result.
I’m triple jabbed and I’m a fed up that the majority are acting sensibly, whilst a disdainful minority enjoy the benefits of others diligence, whilst simultaneously undermining it.
Those who won't get vaccinated can still get in, as all they have to do is report a negative test, they don't even have to take a test. It relies on honesty and I wouldn't trust the honesty of someone who refuses to be jabbed, unless they cannot be jabbed for a valid medical reason.
I don't think you're even going anyway.
Fine if you want to go, but people should know the risks of going.
I shall be at the game btw.13 -
ME14addick said:
People are thinking that they're safe when that isn't true. I am pointing out the reality.Covered End said:
Your misery is getting me down.ME14addick said:
It doesn't protect you from getting the virus, as being jabbed doesn't stop you from getting or passing on the virus.IAgree said:Pleased to see these public health measures introduced and will feel safer at games as a result.
I’m triple jabbed and I’m a fed up that the majority are acting sensibly, whilst a disdainful minority enjoy the benefits of others diligence, whilst simultaneously undermining it.
Those who won't get vaccinated can still get in, as all they have to do is report a negative test, they don't even have to take a test. It relies on honesty and I wouldn't trust the honesty of someone who refuses to be jabbed, unless they cannot be jabbed for a valid medical reason.
I don't think you're even going anyway.
Fine if you want to go, but people should know the risks of going.
People do know the risks. There is a risk we will contract omnicron. There is a chance that we could become very ill and at worse case require hospital care or worse. There is a risk that we will catch it and then transfer these risks onto others who may be more vulnerable.
The chances are that if you do catch it you will statistically overwhelmingly likely have mild/ very mild symptoms with vaccination/ booster status/ age and general health statistically having bearing on severity of illness.
There is a very strong risk that we will all contract this variant in the coming weeks and months. So without locking ourselves in an air bubble indefinitely it seems inevitable. It is the government's job to manage the public health of the country balanced along with the multitudes of other considerations...mental health, sanity, economy etc.
So long as people do the decent thing and comply with the guidance and have consideration for others then that's all that can be expected.
People are in the main very well aware of these risks and do a personal risk assessment based on this knowledge, the guidance given by the government and the medical experts and their own risk appetite and instincts.
It will be a very personal and different choice from individual to individual based on this and what is right for you may not be right for others and vice versa.
I doubt the majority of people out and about and going to football are thinking they are truly "safe" but statistically they will be relatively despite there being a very real chance that they or others they come into contact with if they get it will have horrendously bad symptoms.
Personally I don't know whether I will go on Saturday but most likely will and hope that my fellow coach passengers do the decent thing and mask up and that people do the bare minimum i.e. adhere to Charlton's guidance to protect one another.
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I want to re-iterate this point, as I wouldn't want anyone caught out: "Supporters using a paper NHS COVID Pass must produce the original printed copy on the day of the fixture (a photo/photocopy will not be accepted)".
I scanned my letter to my phone when I first got it, as I thought it would soon get tatty/lost if I had to cart it about everywhere. Seems that won't be good enough though.
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Been saying this on here for 2 weeks nowMStuartPerm said:Personally think the EFL should show some common sense ( not going to happen)and allow the games to be streamed so that fans worried about Covid/ have covid can access the game.I know people will say you can use a VPN, but that just shows they have nothing to lose by allowing it legitimately.
I know there is logistical issues but would not allow season ticket holders refunds (I am one) as paying £10 for peace of mind or being able to see a game You couldn’t attend as isolating would be worth it in my opinion.It may also stop some fans around the country from attending when they shouldn’t be.If cases keep rising, I think behind closed doors football is a high probability anyway.0 -
I've not missed a home match this season, but I won't be going on Saturday for the exact reasons @ME14addick mentions. I plan to visit my elderly uncle on Sunday who is recovering from a brain hemorrhage. The risk that an unvaccinated person could fake a lateral flow test and end up sitting near me is too great. I'd love to go, but unfortunately the liberty of the unvaccinated will be impinging on my liberty this weekend.Covered End said:
Your misery is getting me down.ME14addick said:
It doesn't protect you from getting the virus, as being jabbed doesn't stop you from getting or passing on the virus.IAgree said:Pleased to see these public health measures introduced and will feel safer at games as a result.
I’m triple jabbed and I’m a fed up that the majority are acting sensibly, whilst a disdainful minority enjoy the benefits of others diligence, whilst simultaneously undermining it.
Those who won't get vaccinated can still get in, as all they have to do is report a negative test, they don't even have to take a test. It relies on honesty and I wouldn't trust the honesty of someone who refuses to be jabbed, unless they cannot be jabbed for a valid medical reason.
I don't think you're even going anyway.
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