Will put my neck on the line and say if we sign Fraser he will be a significant upgrade on Lee.
Would hope we play him alongside Gilbey and Dobson. That midfield trio would have a bit of everything and if they can gel you would think they should be the best midfield in the league next season.
Here we go again.
Can you name a league one trio with more quality than those 3? Of course we need them to gel first and signing him now gives 6 months to do that.
Will put my neck on the line and say if we sign Fraser he will be a significant upgrade on Lee.
Would hope we play him alongside Gilbey and Dobson. That midfield trio would have a bit of everything and if they can gel you would think they should be the best midfield in the league next season.
Here we go again.
Can you name a league one trio with more quality than those 3? Of course we need them to gel first and signing him now gives 6 months to do that.
There are probably 20 (at least) midfielders in our league with more quality than Gilbey. Fewer with as much running perhaps.
Will put my neck on the line and say if we sign Fraser he will be a significant upgrade on Lee.
Would hope we play him alongside Gilbey and Dobson. That midfield trio would have a bit of everything and if they can gel you would think they should be the best midfield in the league next season.
Oh please, have you been watching this season, and not on player manager I mean?🤣
Fraser seems a strange signing - every midfielder we get in seems to underperform.
that seems to be an issue in most positions lately .. in midfield .. Dobson took a while to settle, I'd say he's ok a t m .. Gilbey .. good on his day .. Lee .. same as Gilbey .. part of the problem must be that there are issues of general fitness and a flawed policy around new signings .. are they made with a specific way of playing in mind, or in the hope that they will come good once they pull on the Charlton shirt ?
Bit late now I think, but I’d be happy if we signed a half decent player whose main quality was being a real fighter, someone to galvanise the team and get them playing again. Most sides who have done well against us seem to have had one of those in midfield. Maybe someone like a Pell, who’s hard working, a bit nasty, and who has the added bonus of taking a great free kick. Perhaps even pluck one from L2. Would certainly be useful if the season ends up as a relegation battle.
Levitt, Smith, Smith, Field and others seemed ok on paper, but lacked a bit of fight. Of course would love a Gallagher, Cullen or Bielik, but they were summer signings.
Perhaps Nile John will fit the bill, we’ll find out soon I guess.
We don't lack fight; we lack quality.
I think we do lack fight. Quality is variable, but we looked decent enough when they were fighting for JJ to get the job.
Will put my neck on the line and say if we sign Fraser he will be a significant upgrade on Lee.
Would hope we play him alongside Gilbey and Dobson. That midfield trio would have a bit of everything and if they can gel you would think they should be the best midfield in the league next season.
Really? Our midfield currently gets dominated nearly every game with 2/3 of next seasons best midfield - can’t see it personally.
Will put my neck on the line and say if we sign Fraser he will be a significant upgrade on Lee.
Would hope we play him alongside Gilbey and Dobson. That midfield trio would have a bit of everything and if they can gel you would think they should be the best midfield in the league next season.
Remember, Fraser isn't a '10'. He's an '8' like Gilbey.
Bit late now I think, but I’d be happy if we signed a half decent player whose main quality was being a real fighter, someone to galvanise the team and get them playing again. Most sides who have done well against us seem to have had one of those in midfield. Maybe someone like a Pell, who’s hard working, a bit nasty, and who has the added bonus of taking a great free kick. Perhaps even pluck one from L2. Would certainly be useful if the season ends up as a relegation battle.
Levitt, Smith, Smith, Field and others seemed ok on paper, but lacked a bit of fight. Of course would love a Gallagher, Cullen or Bielik, but they were summer signings.
Perhaps Nile John will fit the bill, we’ll find out soon I guess.
We don't lack fight; we lack quality.
I think we do lack fight. Quality is variable, but we looked decent enough when they were fighting for JJ to get the job.
very strange isn't it .. familiarity breeding (I won't say contempt) complacency ?
Having read that and the other links posted it seems the question marks are over his fitness, work rate, athleticism etc. However any creative CM at this level is going to lack something in their game, perhaps alongside two mobile energetic players in Dobson and Gilbey (or John?) we'll have a good balance and will be able to support a player like Fraser. The player in that role needs to produce more than Lee has been.
If Castillo settles in well having pace and more of a threat (other than attacking the far post) than Purrington will make a difference too. As will having Chuks up front over Davison or Leko.
Isn't this a problem we have already in our midfield ? I would prefer we signed a midfielder that has those traits, with some pace and ability to take the opposition on and open them up.
No problem sir. That’ll be £1M, thank you very much. Cheap at the price.
Well we have wasted half of that on one player who's already been shipped out whilst the overall effect of our last season and a half is we are not in the mix for top 6 where we need to be. So just maybe its a false economy to keep paying out for players on smaller fees (250K) as been reported and still not have the engine that makes it work.
I know what you’re saying. In fact one or two very high quality players can drag the level of other players upwards a few notches.
The fee for Fraser is the (relatively) easy bit. Ipswich are paying their players so much it’s warped the market, so you’d assume he’d have to take a pay cut to come here.
Clubs speak to agents before they make a bid so they know what the player looking for …
Will put my neck on the line and say if we sign Fraser he will be a significant upgrade on Lee.
Would hope we play him alongside Gilbey and Dobson. That midfield trio would have a bit of everything and if they can gel you would think they should be the best midfield in the league next season.
Really? Our midfield currently gets dominated nearly every game with 2/3 of next seasons best midfield - can’t see it personally.
Our midfield gets dominated because we play a formation that does not suit the players we have. Lee plays further forward than if he was in a real 3 which leaves Dobson and Gilbey with 3 players to cover between them. We also play our wingbacks so high that dobson or Gilbey have to cover back in to the full back position that leaves even more space in front of the defence.
Will put my neck on the line and say if we sign Fraser he will be a significant upgrade on Lee.
Would hope we play him alongside Gilbey and Dobson. That midfield trio would have a bit of everything and if they can gel you would think they should be the best midfield in the league next season.
Here we go again.
Can you name a league one trio with more quality than those 3? Of course we need them to gel first and signing him now gives 6 months to do that.
There are probably 20 (at least) midfielders in our league with more quality than Gilbey. Fewer with as much running perhaps.
Will put my neck on the line and say if we sign Fraser he will be a significant upgrade on Lee.
Would hope we play him alongside Gilbey and Dobson. That midfield trio would have a bit of everything and if they can gel you would think they should be the best midfield in the league next season.
Really? Our midfield currently gets dominated nearly every game with 2/3 of next seasons best midfield - can’t see it personally.
Our midfield gets dominated because we play a formation that does not suit the players we have. Lee plays further forward than if he was in a real 3 which leaves Dobson and Gilbey with 3 players to cover between them. We also play our wingbacks so high that dobson or Gilbey have to cover back in to the full back position that leaves even more space in front of the defence.
This doesn't ring true at all. One of our issues has been how deep the wing-backs play. There's always them and the wide CB defending attacks; this hasn't been a problem. Keeping possession and stringing moves together has though
I’m surprised we’ve done nothing to address the RWB slot for me I’d have sent Leko packing and been all over Villa for Kane Kessler or Spurs for the lad we were linked with.
we good really do with an upgrade in that position given DJ still can’t play for 90mins
DJ can.play 90 mins but he's NOT a RWB He's a winger Wide mifielder Right of a front 3
But NOT a wing back!
I beg to disagree, watch him every game he looks dead on his feet come 70 mins - no matter where he plays.
They'll wait until the last possible moment to say no. I hope it comes off though.
I was hoping that we would be looking to sign players on the way up .. NOT other clubs failures
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I like to see young hungry players on the up too but not every signing needs to have that profile. Fraser is a good player at this level and Ipswich have a big squad with a lot of options, they can’t keep them all happy.
To be honest I care much more about a players reputation after they've signed for us, not before! Dobson is a revelation. If Fraser has the same engine and effort I'll be happy. I'd rather have an average player working his socks off, than a top quality lazy fecker.
To be honest I care much more about a players reputation after they've signed for us, not before! Dobson is a revelation. If Fraser has the same engine and effort I'll be happy. I'd rather have an average player working his socks off, than a top quality lazy fecker.
You’ll be disappointed if that’s the metric you’re using to judge him.
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Something like that.
but we do need another striker and possibly a rwb, though i suppose once Lavelle is fit again we can put Clare in rwb too so its less of a requirement
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But we do agree on the fact that he’s not a RWB.
Michael Morrison
I like to see young hungry players on the up too but not every signing needs to have that profile. Fraser is a good player at this level and Ipswich have a big squad with a lot of options, they can’t keep them all happy.
At least we would have some options to rotate though.