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Charlton Only - January 2022 Transfer Rumours (Deadline Day p.97)
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carly burn said:Still don't have that Marquee 20-30 goals a season striker. And until we do we ain't going anywhere
I know they don't grow on trees but we have to find one.
Our most successful seasons in recent times are when we have a natural goal machine up top. Washington and Stockley are not that person.
Unless someone is available for a small fee like BWP the best way to find one at this level can often be to create one. Burstow could be, worth giving him a run of games to see how he develops.0 -
Covered_End_Lad said:Leuth said:Covered_End_Lad said:Leuth said:Covered_End_Lad said:Leuth said:Covered_End_Lad said:Leuth said:Oggy Red said:Chunes said:MuttleyCAFC said:A midfield three of Dobson, Gilbey and Fraser would be the best in the League IMO.
Too many gaps around him and tries to do too much to compensate.
He's evidently willing to put in the effort but it's asking too much of him at full stretch - and composure on the ball suffers.
Remember, Gilbey has had no pre-season after being badly hit by Covid.
There's a very decent player in there, great engine, always moving, can pick a pass.
He's trying to do what he's asked to do within the current formation, instead of playing to his own abilities.
At some point you have to stop making excuses for a player who barely creates anything. At some point it is a them problem and not an everyone else problem.
You do talk some rubbish.
We are a far worse team with AG out of it and you have provided nothing to convince me (or others) otherwise. Just nonsense claims with nothing to back them up.
We get it, you have a dislike for Gilbey, it clearly isn't to do with anything he does on the football pitch though.
Happy to have further discussion if you come up with any actual examples of anything you spout, rather than just nonsense soundbites.
Ever thought about a career in politics?
Yes I would like a prime iniesta or KDB but sadly we are in league one, you will struggle to get a better number 8 at this level than Gilbey.0 -
thenewbie said:I don't necessarily see it as a question of being Gilbey OR Fraser. In a (hypothetical) midfield with both you now have two different players carrying the ball out of midfield (supplied by Dobson.) If you man mark Fraser, then Gilbey is left completely alone, or vice versa.
You can try to mark both, but that would be at the expense of your own attack and causes a narrow midfield that hopefully DJ/Leko on the right and Castilo on the left can exploit, and that's not including John/Morgan/Lee in there.
The intent of this window appears to be addressing a lack of goals by trying to add more from midfield rather than spending huge amounts on a striker. It seems a gamble but we'll see how it goes.
Poor midfield = the defence is without protection and the strikers get little service.
You need goalscoring strikers, of course ...... but they're often out of the game without a strong midfield.
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Scoham said:carly burn said:Still don't have that Marquee 20-30 goals a season striker. And until we do we ain't going anywhere
I know they don't grow on trees but we have to find one.
Our most successful seasons in recent times are when we have a natural goal machine up top. Washington and Stockley are not that person.
Unless someone is available for a small fee like BWP the best way to find one at this level can often be to create one. Burstow could be, worth giving him a run of games to see how he develops.0 -
Cafc43v3r said:Scoham said:carly burn said:Still don't have that Marquee 20-30 goals a season striker. And until we do we ain't going anywhere
I know they don't grow on trees but we have to find one.
Our most successful seasons in recent times are when we have a natural goal machine up top. Washington and Stockley are not that person.
Unless someone is available for a small fee like BWP the best way to find one at this level can often be to create one. Burstow could be, worth giving him a run of games to see how he develops.0 -
This season Gilbey has played 1666 minutes of League football and has 4 assists, that is one very 416 minutes or one every 4.6 games.
What that does or does not prove I have no idea what I do know is that when he plays he adds excitement to the team with his runs forward, OK they don't always come off with a goal or an assist but they do also lead to free kicks and a better attacking feel to our play.7 -
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What happened to the Conor McBride young striker from Blackburn rumour circulating in the press?
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Covered_End_Lad said:Leuth said:Oggy Red said:Chunes said:MuttleyCAFC said:A midfield three of Dobson, Gilbey and Fraser would be the best in the League IMO.
Too many gaps around him and tries to do too much to compensate.
He's evidently willing to put in the effort but it's asking too much of him at full stretch - and composure on the ball suffers.
Remember, Gilbey has had no pre-season after being badly hit by Covid.
There's a very decent player in there, great engine, always moving, can pick a pass.
He's trying to do what he's asked to do within the current formation, instead of playing to his own abilities.
At some point you have to stop making excuses for a player who barely creates anything. At some point it is a them problem and not an everyone else problem.
You do talk some rubbish.0 - Sponsored links:
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charlton_hero said:He's mainly been played out of position by Ipswich out on the left wing. When he has been played through the middle he's done well.
Let's hope he fits into ours!
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grumpyaddick said:What happened to the Conor McBride young striker from Blackburn rumour circulating in the press?1
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One thing I found interesting is that for all our relative lack of goals we are 6th in terms of big chances created. Seems we just don't shoot enough in general whilst also lacking any players capable of a bit of magic (or if they are our system isn't allowing them to produce it).
Our defence is also the joint 6th best in terms of goals conceded per game so weirdly I don't think we're a million miles away if we can get the right players in and Jackson can get them playing in a system that makes us more dangerous.
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Leuth said:Henry Irving said:I hope Nile John can play upfront or wingback as he appears to have been written out of our midfield already : - )1
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lancashire lad said:This season Gilbey has played 1666 minutes of League football and has 4 assists, that is one very 416 minutes or one every 4.6 games.
What that does or does not prove I have no idea what I do know is that when he plays he adds excitement to the team with his runs forward, OK they don't always come off with a goal or an assist but they do also lead to free kicks and a better attacking feel to our play.
He’s on fire!
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Sorry. 😳12 -
Vfrf said:grumpyaddick said:What happened to the Conor McBride young striker from Blackburn rumour circulating in the press?
Now we can get back to Gilbey.....2 -
cafcsinger said:Covered_End_Lad said:Leuth said:Oggy Red said:Chunes said:MuttleyCAFC said:A midfield three of Dobson, Gilbey and Fraser would be the best in the League IMO.
Too many gaps around him and tries to do too much to compensate.
He's evidently willing to put in the effort but it's asking too much of him at full stretch - and composure on the ball suffers.
Remember, Gilbey has had no pre-season after being badly hit by Covid.
There's a very decent player in there, great engine, always moving, can pick a pass.
He's trying to do what he's asked to do within the current formation, instead of playing to his own abilities.
At some point you have to stop making excuses for a player who barely creates anything. At some point it is a them problem and not an everyone else problem.
You do talk some rubbish.0 -
supaclive said:Dobson, Gilbey, Fraser is a very, very good spine of the side, if you add Stockely and/or Chuks alongside Innis, Lavelle, Clare/Fam and Mac.
We desperately need the right players in wing back roles if we go that way though. Oh for a Roys Wiggins and fit Chris Solly......0 -
cafcwill said:Fraser is the player we should have signed in the summer. He was excellent when he played against us last season.
but we do need another striker and possibly a rwb, though i suppose once Lavelle is fit again we can put Clare in rwb too so its less of a requirement2 -
RonnieMoore said:cafcwill said:Fraser is the player we should have signed in the summer. He was excellent when he played against us last season.
but we do need another striker and possibly a rwb, though i suppose once Lavelle is fit again we can put Clare in rwb too so its less of a requirement0 - Sponsored links:
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Jac_52 said:One thing I found interesting is that for all our relative lack of goals we are 6th in terms of big chances created. Seems we just don't shoot enough in general whilst also lacking any players capable of a bit of magic (or if they are our system isn't allowing them to produce it).
Our defence is also the joint 6th best in terms of goals conceded per game so weirdly I don't think we're a million miles away if we can get the right players in and Jackson can get them playing in a system that makes us more dangerous.1 -
Jac_52 said:One thing I found interesting is that for all our relative lack of goals we are 6th in terms of big chances created. Seems we just don't shoot enough in general whilst also lacking any players capable of a bit of magic (or if they are our system isn't allowing them to produce it).
Our defence is also the joint 6th best in terms of goals conceded per game so weirdly I don't think we're a million miles away if we can get the right players in and Jackson can get them playing in a system that makes us more dangerous.
Bar the first 4 games I don't think we have ever looked like the opposition have had significantly better players than us. A lot of teams with worse players than us have played better than us. That's almost more worrying.3 -
Cafc43v3r said:Jac_52 said:One thing I found interesting is that for all our relative lack of goals we are 6th in terms of big chances created. Seems we just don't shoot enough in general whilst also lacking any players capable of a bit of magic (or if they are our system isn't allowing them to produce it).
Our defence is also the joint 6th best in terms of goals conceded per game so weirdly I don't think we're a million miles away if we can get the right players in and Jackson can get them playing in a system that makes us more dangerous.
Bar the first 4 games I don't think we have ever looked like the opposition have had significantly better players than us. A lot of teams with worse players than us have played better than us. That's almost more worrying.
Whether that is a coaching issue or just finding a system that works for a whole season I don't honestly know. But I sincerely doubt that there is a player out there we can/will sign who will suddenly make the whole squad "click" purely through their own quality.1 -
Scott Fraser joined Ipswich for £750,000 so you’d assume that we have bid that or more.
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Close to completion according to above.13 -
Jac_52 said:One thing I found interesting is that for all our relative lack of goals we are 6th in terms of big chances created. Seems we just don't shoot enough in general whilst also lacking any players capable of a bit of magic (or if they are our system isn't allowing them to produce it).
Our defence is also the joint 6th best in terms of goals conceded per game so weirdly I don't think we're a million miles away if we can get the right players in and Jackson can get them playing in a system that makes us more dangerous.
Ipswich have scored 47 goals with only 34 big chances, so presumably they've scored a number of goals they're not expected to. From watching Quest I don't remember them having lots of long shot goals either.0 -
addick1956 said:Happy Valley said:addick1956 said:thenewbie said:addick1956 said:thenewbie said:addick1956 said:Plaaayer said:
To have a humour bypass you would need to have had sense of humour, surely.
Perhaps, it's worth considering it's you?2 -
charlton_hero said:He's mainly been played out of position by Ipswich out on the left wing. When he has been played through the middle he's done well.0
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Jac_52 said:One thing I found interesting is that for all our relative lack of goals we are 6th in terms of big chances created. Seems we just don't shoot enough in general whilst also lacking any players capable of a bit of magic (or if they are our system isn't allowing them to produce it).
Our defence is also the joint 6th best in terms of goals conceded per game so weirdly I don't think we're a million miles away if we can get the right players in and Jackson can get them playing in a system that makes us more dangerous.4 -
Wasn't Harper one of the Ipswich summer signings everyone was gushing about in the summer?
Going to Rochdale on loan.....4