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Chuks Aneke - speculation re 2023/24 season (p60)

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  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,311

  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    No point paying up his contract. He will end up going somewhere and getting significant game time knowing our luck. We have to try to get as many minutes out of him as possibe. There are no other options.
    There is an option: concentrate solely on getting him fit enough to pass one of these "fitness tests" we hear so much about.   Flog him off for any money at all to the first sucker prepared to match his salary expectations.  We know for damn sure that 3 matches in to his next "return" he'll be back on the physios table - that table needs to be at any other club.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,055
    Billy_Mix said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    No point paying up his contract. He will end up going somewhere and getting significant game time knowing our luck. We have to try to get as many minutes out of him as possibe. There are no other options.
    There is an option: concentrate solely on getting him fit enough to pass one of these "fitness tests" we hear so much about.   Flog him off for any money at all to the first sucker prepared to match his salary expectations.  We know for damn sure that 3 matches in to his next "return" he'll be back on the physios table - that table needs to be at any other club.
    Can’t imagine there’s a barge pole in England that any other club would touch Aneke with. 
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    se9addick said:
    Billy_Mix said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    No point paying up his contract. He will end up going somewhere and getting significant game time knowing our luck. We have to try to get as many minutes out of him as possibe. There are no other options.
    There is an option: concentrate solely on getting him fit enough to pass one of these "fitness tests" we hear so much about.   Flog him off for any money at all to the first sucker prepared to match his salary expectations.  We know for damn sure that 3 matches in to his next "return" he'll be back on the physios table - that table needs to be at any other club.
    Can’t imagine there’s a barge pole in England that any other club would touch Aneke with. 
    Bowyer took him in full knowledge of his inadequacies
    We know Skintgaard doesn't listen to what he doesn't want to hear but there are no rumours of dissenting voices when he came back.  Rose tinted specs are freely available all over football and remain popular.  I'm not saying we should hold out for any sort of fee.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,257
    The anticipation this week re; an update on his injury is palpable after we found out he was running on grass last week.  Will it be 

    - continuing to make progress and taking it slow, we mustn’t rush him back

    - taking part in some light contact work 

    - no update

    - Chuks felt a tweak somewhere so as a precaution we’ve quarantined him at home and told him to wait until spring next year, just to be on the safe side 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,311
    cabbles said:
    The anticipation this week re; an update on his injury is palpable after we found out he was running on grass last week.  Will it be 

    - continuing to make progress and taking it slow, we mustn’t rush him back

    - taking part in some light contact work 

    - no update

    - Chuks felt a tweak somewhere so as a precaution we’ve quarantined him at home and told him to wait until spring next year, just to be on the safe side 
    The last one but in addition have extended his contract to allow for the extra recovery time required.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,891
    cabbles said:
    The anticipation this week re; an update on his injury is palpable after we found out he was running on grass last week.  Will it be 

    - continuing to make progress and taking it slow, we mustn’t rush him back

    - taking part in some light contact work 

    - no update

    - Chuks felt a tweak somewhere so as a precaution we’ve quarantined him at home and told him to wait until spring next year, just to be on the safe side 
    0/14 incoming!
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    This saga is about as interesting as the rest of our season 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,911
    It is interesting though as I think this is a perfect example of things not being right in the club. You are always taking a chance with players getting injured but with Chucks absolutely anyone could see clear as day that this would happen. Who on earth pushed for the deal he got in terms of contract length needs their head examining! This might be the straw that broke the camels back for TS in terms of transfers. If I was him I would be thinking "fuck that" £350k down the tubes plus wages ! We will be lucky to get 12cgames out of the bloke this season imo
  • charltonnick
    charltonnick Posts: 3,063
    AndyG said:
    It is interesting though as I think this is a perfect example of things not being right in the club. You are always taking a chance with players getting injured but with Chucks absolutely anyone could see clear as day that this would happen. Who on earth pushed for the deal he got in terms of contract length needs their head examining! This might be the straw that broke the camels back for TS in terms of transfers. If I was him I would be thinking "fuck that" £350k down the tubes plus wages ! We will be lucky to get 12cgames out of the bloke this season imo
    TS and his son do make up 50% of the recruitment team , that I think has been a big problem.

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    AndyG said:
    It is interesting though as I think this is a perfect example of things not being right in the club. You are always taking a chance with players getting injured but with Chucks absolutely anyone could see clear as day that this would happen. Who on earth pushed for the deal he got in terms of contract length needs their head examining! This might be the straw that broke the camels back for TS in terms of transfers. If I was him I would be thinking "fuck that" £350k down the tubes plus wages ! We will be lucky to get 12cgames out of the bloke this season imo
    The only thing I would caveat is that if you treated Chuks like a luxury player, focused his role on being an impact sub and anything else you got was a bonus, then this signing makes some sense. It's a lot for an impact player, but it's also one of the best impact players in the league.

    But, if as we have done you make him your second choice center forward when your first choice center forward doesn't fit the system, then you have made a bad mistake. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    SDAddick said:
    AndyG said:
    It is interesting though as I think this is a perfect example of things not being right in the club. You are always taking a chance with players getting injured but with Chucks absolutely anyone could see clear as day that this would happen. Who on earth pushed for the deal he got in terms of contract length needs their head examining! This might be the straw that broke the camels back for TS in terms of transfers. If I was him I would be thinking "fuck that" £350k down the tubes plus wages ! We will be lucky to get 12cgames out of the bloke this season imo
    The only thing I would caveat is that if you treated Chuks like a luxury player, focused his role on being an impact sub and anything else you got was a bonus, then this signing makes some sense. It's a lot for an impact player, but it's also one of the best impact players in the league.

    But, if as we have done you make him your second choice center forward when your first choice center forward doesn't fit the system, then you have made a bad mistake. 
    If you have loads of cash, you can afford a luxury player to be an impact sub 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    Is he fit yet?
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,302
    AndyG said:
    It is interesting though as I think this is a perfect example of things not being right in the club. You are always taking a chance with players getting injured but with Chucks absolutely anyone could see clear as day that this would happen. Who on earth pushed for the deal he got in terms of contract length needs their head examining! This might be the straw that broke the camels back for TS in terms of transfers. If I was him I would be thinking "fuck that" £350k down the tubes plus wages ! We will be lucky to get 12cgames out of the bloke this season imo
    Although he did come with a bad injury history. Before we signed him in January, Aneke had not missed that many games at all in the 18 month stretch before that. In hindsight it was a bad move, but if he’d had the same 18 months fitness wise that he had before we signed him then it would have been a great move. At the time I was happy we re-signed him and still am as when used correctly he’s brilliant. But the contract length was worrying, mainly because Aneke is a very good league 1 player, but he’s not a championship player. So a 3 year contract to me did not say we were thinking we’d be out of league 1 in 3 years 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,408
    I think that today makes it 10 weeks out for Chuks following the calf injury. Quite some time and just bad news for all concerned including him. 

    We're all tired to count the number of points we might have gained if he wasn't injured as we've played that game too often the past few years with several players. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,891
    SDAddick said:
    AndyG said:
    It is interesting though as I think this is a perfect example of things not being right in the club. You are always taking a chance with players getting injured but with Chucks absolutely anyone could see clear as day that this would happen. Who on earth pushed for the deal he got in terms of contract length needs their head examining! This might be the straw that broke the camels back for TS in terms of transfers. If I was him I would be thinking "fuck that" £350k down the tubes plus wages ! We will be lucky to get 12cgames out of the bloke this season imo
    The only thing I would caveat is that if you treated Chuks like a luxury player, focused his role on being an impact sub and anything else you got was a bonus, then this signing makes some sense. It's a lot for an impact player, but it's also one of the best impact players in the league.

    But, if as we have done you make him your second choice center forward when your first choice center forward doesn't fit the system, then you have made a bad mistake. 
    The thing is, does a fit Chuks actually fit the system either?

    Maybe he does better than Stockley, but do we really expect him to be charging around closing people down, etc - especially with his injury record?
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    edited September 2022
    A hard  hearted comment I know, but are we approaching the stage where the club should be recognising it’s own mistake and seeking to come to some sort of termination of contract agreement with Chuks?  Costly, but he is presumably taking up a lot of ongoing medical resource as things stand. And he is taking up a squad place that could be filled.  I’m genuinely sorry for Chuks. He appears to be a good guy and, if fit, he’d add something without exactly being a world beater. However the saga will just go on and on and the false hope is a drain in itself.  Time to draw a line?
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    Out for another week at least. Laughing stock of a club. 
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    It's so frustrating because Chucks would make such a difference to us, but he's either made of glass or scared

    I really think his problem might be mental rather than physical now, in which case he'd be better off retiring for his own wellbeing 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    It's so frustrating because Chucks would make such a difference to us, but he's either made of glass or scared

    I really think his problem might be mental rather than physical now, in which case he'd be better off retiring for his own wellbeing 
    But not for his bills

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  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,311
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    It's so frustrating because Chucks would make such a difference to us, but he's either made of glass or scared

    I really think his problem might be mental rather than physical now, in which case he'd be better off retiring for his own wellbeing 
    He’s got Radicanuism…
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,260
    edited September 2022
    Off_it said:
    SDAddick said:
    AndyG said:
    It is interesting though as I think this is a perfect example of things not being right in the club. You are always taking a chance with players getting injured but with Chucks absolutely anyone could see clear as day that this would happen. Who on earth pushed for the deal he got in terms of contract length needs their head examining! This might be the straw that broke the camels back for TS in terms of transfers. If I was him I would be thinking "fuck that" £350k down the tubes plus wages ! We will be lucky to get 12cgames out of the bloke this season imo
    The only thing I would caveat is that if you treated Chuks like a luxury player, focused his role on being an impact sub and anything else you got was a bonus, then this signing makes some sense. It's a lot for an impact player, but it's also one of the best impact players in the league.

    But, if as we have done you make him your second choice center forward when your first choice center forward doesn't fit the system, then you have made a bad mistake. 
    The thing is, does a fit Chuks actually fit the system either?

    Maybe he does better than Stockley, but do we really expect him to be charging around closing people down, etc - especially with his injury record?
    I agree. He has been most effective coming on for 30 minutes in a front 2. There is nowhere he would work in the 433 lineup Garner favours.
    In fact the only player I can think of in the past few years who would fit that system is Lyle Taylor, mobile and can score. Maybe Grant as well. In a year it could be Leaburn if we have not blown him up by then by overplaying him.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    edited September 2022
    Of course none of us really know the extent of Chuks' issues but what we do know is the injury that was so minor it couldn't even be called an injury has kept him out for 10 weeks so far. I sadly expected this to happen from the start which probably says more about how much I am pissed off with the club and I am not remotely interested or believing in anything it tells me. I just watch the games and judge for myself.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,599
    So if he is, possibly, returning to full training the back end of next week we still won’t see him for a couple of weeks yet.
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 689
    guinnessaddick said:
    He’s had his calf injury so long, it will so become a cow injury.
    Better that than a bullock injury
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,655
    Hoping he’ll get a hat trick off the bench today.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,815
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Hoping he’ll get a hat trick off the bench today.

    Didn't Garner say he was still out?
  • Oh Eddie Youds...
    Oh Eddie Youds... Posts: 1,320
    He did. Back in full training next week.
  • Tunwellsaddick
    Tunwellsaddick Posts: 2,453
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Hoping he’ll get a hat trick off the bench today.
    Hoping he will make the bench..... some day.
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