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England Cricket 2022

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  • Pakistan needed a hero. What a story at least! Love a legspinner. Wish we'd picked ours! 
  • He wears glasses too? Be still my beating heart
  • The issue for England was that they didn't know how the wicket was going to play - they thought it would spin in the first Test but nine of the final ten wickets were taken by quicks - so they hedged their bets by leaving out a front line keeper and having three spinners and four seamers. All of the quicks bring with them some element of doubt - Stokes (ongoing knee injury), Robinson (historic fitness issues), Anderson (age) and Wood (coming back from injury and little game time to build up stamina),

    So, we have seven bowlers and if three spinners can't do the job then so be it. There is an argument for Rehan Ahmed coming in for Jacks (or even Leach) but this regime is about rewarding those that have done the business unless there is a convincing argument to do otherwise. And that convincing argument only arises as a result of hindsight.

    My concern will be how Pope copes with on a pitch that is turning square. But I understand why we selected this team although Russell hasn't wasted time in pointing out that this was said, time after time, when Stewart took the gloves. The only thing that can change the balance to allow the specialist keeper is if you have another two all rounders in the side but having Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Brook and Foakes in the team means that you can only have five specialist bowlers plus Root.  
  • Well that was one braindead review! 
  • there have been a lot of candidates for worst review of all time, but that takes the cake I think
  • If it really was Rizwan that called it then he needs to ask himself why, if it pitched in line, is his right foot is a yard outside the line of leg stump at the point of impact!
  • Now that was a beauty!


  • Dare I say it, Pakistan have keyed in a cheat code
  • Could Abrar take all 10 wickets in an innings - on his debut!
  • The problem with scoring quickly and getting out quickly is that it leaves Pakistan more time to bat & build a big score. 
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  • The problem with scoring quickly and getting out quickly is that it leaves Pakistan more time to bat & build a big score. 
    Cool, thanks. Stokes has taken your critique into consideration
  • In all forms of the professional game, Abrar has scored exactly 150 runs. And he's now taken 118 wickets.
  • In all forms of the professional game, Abrar has scored exactly 150 runs. And he's now taken 118 wickets.
    Make that 119 wickets

    231-7

    Abrar 7-91
  • Bring on Babar at the other end
  • Pakistan 1.80
    England 3.00
    Draw 9.00
  • Could Abrar take all 10 wickets in an innings - on his debut!
    Sort of want him to now!

    Just hope we get a few more first!
  • Boooooooooooo
  • Robinson gone slogging to Mahmood

    245-8
  • Can you imagine getting 7 on debut?  Stuff of dreams.
  • Robinson gone slogging to Mahmood

    245-8
    Booooooo.
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  • I think there comes a point when you have to play within your limitations. Leach is no Duckett when it comes to sweeping!!!

    245-9
  • The issue for England was that they didn't know how the wicket was going to play - they thought it would spin in the first Test but nine of the final ten wickets were taken by quicks - so they hedged their bets by leaving out a front line keeper and having three spinners and four seamers. All of the quicks bring with them some element of doubt - Stokes (ongoing knee injury), Robinson (historic fitness issues), Anderson (age) and Wood (coming back from injury and little game time to build up stamina),

    So, we have seven bowlers and if three spinners can't do the job then so be it. There is an argument for Rehan Ahmed coming in for Jacks (or even Leach) but this regime is about rewarding those that have done the business unless there is a convincing argument to do otherwise. And that convincing argument only arises as a result of hindsight.

    My concern will be how Pope copes with on a pitch that is turning square. But I understand why we selected this team although Russell hasn't wasted time in pointing out that this was said, time after time, when Stewart took the gloves. The only thing that can change the balance to allow the specialist keeper is if you have another two all rounders in the side but having Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Brook and Foakes in the team means that you can only have five specialist bowlers plus Root.  
    Stewart was a more experienced keeper than Pope, while Jacks is very much a part time spinner, indeed a worse option than Denly, Malan or Lawrence
  • The issue for England was that they didn't know how the wicket was going to play - they thought it would spin in the first Test but nine of the final ten wickets were taken by quicks - so they hedged their bets by leaving out a front line keeper and having three spinners and four seamers. All of the quicks bring with them some element of doubt - Stokes (ongoing knee injury), Robinson (historic fitness issues), Anderson (age) and Wood (coming back from injury and little game time to build up stamina),

    So, we have seven bowlers and if three spinners can't do the job then so be it. There is an argument for Rehan Ahmed coming in for Jacks (or even Leach) but this regime is about rewarding those that have done the business unless there is a convincing argument to do otherwise. And that convincing argument only arises as a result of hindsight.

    My concern will be how Pope copes with on a pitch that is turning square. But I understand why we selected this team although Russell hasn't wasted time in pointing out that this was said, time after time, when Stewart took the gloves. The only thing that can change the balance to allow the specialist keeper is if you have another two all rounders in the side but having Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Brook and Foakes in the team means that you can only have five specialist bowlers plus Root.  
    Stewart was a more experienced keeper than Pope, while Jacks is very much a part time spinner, indeed a worse option than Denly, Malan or Lawrence
    Jacks is definitely ahead of Denly and Malan. Lawrence is a good comparison actually
  • Anyway, Pakistan already into their work (of collapsing)
  • Oval ashes ticket ballot gets done today… anyone know what time? 
  • edited December 2022
    The issue for England was that they didn't know how the wicket was going to play - they thought it would spin in the first Test but nine of the final ten wickets were taken by quicks - so they hedged their bets by leaving out a front line keeper and having three spinners and four seamers. All of the quicks bring with them some element of doubt - Stokes (ongoing knee injury), Robinson (historic fitness issues), Anderson (age) and Wood (coming back from injury and little game time to build up stamina),

    So, we have seven bowlers and if three spinners can't do the job then so be it. There is an argument for Rehan Ahmed coming in for Jacks (or even Leach) but this regime is about rewarding those that have done the business unless there is a convincing argument to do otherwise. And that convincing argument only arises as a result of hindsight.

    My concern will be how Pope copes with on a pitch that is turning square. But I understand why we selected this team although Russell hasn't wasted time in pointing out that this was said, time after time, when Stewart took the gloves. The only thing that can change the balance to allow the specialist keeper is if you have another two all rounders in the side but having Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Brook and Foakes in the team means that you can only have five specialist bowlers plus Root.  
    Stewart was a more experienced keeper than Pope, while Jacks is very much a part time spinner, indeed a worse option than Denly, Malan or Lawrence
    Stewart was but didn't keep much for Surrey and in those days players played a lot more for their counties between Tests. The sadly departed Graham Kersey (went to BETHS and a product of Bexley CC who died as a result of a car crash on Christmas Eve in Australia at the age of just 25) retained the gloves when Stewart returned. Something that, more than 40 years on, Foakes could find himself doing!

  • This isn't the pitch for these tactics with Wood. Shelve that one imo, get Robinson on bowling good length and attack with spin
  • Leuth said:
    This isn't the pitch for these tactics with Wood. Shelve that one imo, get Robinson on bowling good length and attack with spin
    (Stokes has taken this into consideration, I heard)
  • Oval ashes ticket ballot gets done today… anyone know what time? 
    It's the deadline to submit your requirements today, I assume the actual ticket allocation won't be straight away?
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