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England Cricket 2022

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  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    It's probably not bad to watch if you're in Barbados.
    I could definitely tolerate it  :)
    That was my point! 😊
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    @Pelling1993 ‘s alter ego ‘Powelly’ has finally showed up with 3 overs to go. The effects of day 2 clearly still apparent. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,794
    Gower continues to demonstrate how Sky were so foolish to let him go. Botham went at the same time and not someone who I, personally, miss but when one adds Holding, Bumble and very sadly now Warne to that list, that's five names that were very much once upon a time part of the Sky commentary diet that have now departed
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    I'd say a draw and an England win are roughly equally likely, but a lot depends on how many runs Root will declare ahead. 240 would be a brave, brave call, but an hour's slogging tomorrow will get to it
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,867
    Leuth said:
    I'd say a draw and an England win are roughly equally likely, but a lot depends on how many runs Root will declare ahead. 240 would be a brave, brave call, but an hour's slogging tomorrow will get to it
    WinLeuth

    Draw - 50%
    England win - 50%
    West Indies win - 0%

    Let's set them 260-270 in two sessions and then see if Lawrence and Root can bowl them out.

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,854
    Dave Rudd said:
    Leuth said:
    I'd say a draw and an England win are roughly equally likely, but a lot depends on how many runs Root will declare ahead. 240 would be a brave, brave call, but an hour's slogging tomorrow will get to it
    WinLeuth

    Draw - 50%
    England win - 50%
    West Indies win - 0%

    Let's set them 260-270 in two sessions and then see if Lawrence and Root can bowl them out.

    Draw 70%
    England 25%
    Windies 5%

    Tough to get a result, but to tempt the Windies to go for it, they'll have to make the target achievable or else Brathwaite and co will just defend.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,794
    The current Betfair odds are:

    Draw 1.13 - 88%
    England 9.80 - 10%
    Windies 50.00 - 2%

    Those odds reflect the fact that if we are successful in setting a target then the wicket probably hasn't deteriorated sufficiently for our limited attack to bowl the Windies out (19 wickets have fallen in this Test for 354 overs and we haven't bowled them out inside 157 overs in the series) - and the target is unlikely to be enticing enough for the Windies to have a go. Equally, even if we were to offer them say 270 in 50 overs, the Windies know that should they make any real inroads towards the target we will then bowl negative lines (there are no automatic leg side wides or inner lines on the off side) and we will also have half a dozen on the boundary too. So it's difficult to see which scenario offers anyone much of a chance of wining.




  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,854
    The current Betfair odds are:

    Draw 1.13 - 88%
    England 9.80 - 10%
    Windies 50.00 - 2%

    Those odds reflect the fact that if we are successful in setting a target then the wicket probably hasn't deteriorated sufficiently for our limited attack to bowl the Windies out (19 wickets have fallen in this Test for 354 overs and we haven't bowled them out inside 157 overs in the series) - and the target is unlikely to be enticing enough for the Windies to have a go. Equally, even if we were to offer them say 270 in 50 overs, the Windies know that should they make any real inroads towards the target we will then bowl negative lines (there are no automatic leg side wides or inner lines on the off side) and we will also have half a dozen on the boundary too. So it's difficult to see which scenario offers anyone much of a chance of wining.




    Those seem pretty realistic

    I wonder what condition Leach's spinning finger will be in after his marathon effort over 2 days?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,630
    The current Betfair odds are:

    Draw 1.13 - 88%
    England 9.80 - 10%
    Windies 50.00 - 2%

    Those odds reflect the fact that if we are successful in setting a target then the wicket probably hasn't deteriorated sufficiently for our limited attack to bowl the Windies out (19 wickets have fallen in this Test for 354 overs and we haven't bowled them out inside 157 overs in the series) - and the target is unlikely to be enticing enough for the Windies to have a go. Equally, even if we were to offer them say 270 in 50 overs, the Windies know that should they make any real inroads towards the target we will then bowl negative lines (there are no automatic leg side wides or inner lines on the off side) and we will also have half a dozen on the boundary too. So it's difficult to see which scenario offers anyone much of a chance of wining.




    Those odds seem about right.

    It took us 170 odd overs to get them all out. If the Windies aren't tempted to go for a run chase we'll be lucky to get more than 2 or 3 out in 2 sessions.
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,867
    Disappointing, but you overlook WinLeuth.

    "I'd say a draw and an England win are roughly equally likely, but a lot depends on how many runs Root will declare ahead. 240 would be a brave, brave call, but an hour's slogging tomorrow will get to it"

    Maybe he thinks that Jaiyesimi and Omar Bogle can bowl us to victory.
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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    RUDD

    you will see. it will become clear

    TOMORROW
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,867
    Leuth said:
    RUDD

    you will see. it will become clear

    TOMORROW
    What will become clear?

    WinLeuth predicts both the draw and an England win ... equally.

    So, the West Indies failure to win will become clear? 

    Riiight.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    edited March 2022
    CricViz app says 95% draw, 5% England and 0% WI. 

    Guess they are anticipating a late declaration and we will give them 50-60 overs of batting at most.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,854
    England definitely trying to get some quick runs, though it seems that there's a risk of a shower
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,794
    England 70-2 with Lees and Root gone already so 30-2 this morning off 7 overs
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,794
    England 70-2 with Lees and Root gone already so 30-2 this morning off 7 overs
    Edit 74-3 and 34-3 off 7.3 overs this morning. The lead is only 170 at the moment so I can see a period of consolidation. And it's drizzling now
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,794
    Rain stopped play at 76-3 for a lead of 172
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,854
    These showers are annoying. More reliable weather in England today!
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,794
    110-4 

    Stokes out and a lead of 206
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,794
    The 60 on Betfair currently on offer for the Windies might look a big price in a few hours time
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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,680
    100 % this will be a draw 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,794
    100 % this will be a draw 
    Which is more or less what I thought last night. However, the 60 on the Windies might have been value had we lost the rest of our wickets trying to set that target and more so than the 9 on offer for England

    163-5 and 259 ahead with 70 overs to go
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,854
    Slightly confusing tactics by England now. Lawrence keeping the strike to go for the big shots, but not declaring when he was out
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    CricViz

    89% draw
    11% England
    0% WI
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,794
    185-6 at lunch and a lead of 281
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,794
    edited March 2022
    Windies require 282 runs and England need 10 wickets in 62 overs

    Correction - 65 overs minimum
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,794
    Wicket to Leach in his first over

    14-1 off 6 overs
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,854
    Wicket to Leach in his first over

    14-1 off 6 overs
    Campbell looked like getting out every ball in that over  :D
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,794
    What a catch!

    23-2
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,854
    Zak unselfishly allows his captain the glory of taking the catch