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Burnley and Nick Pope

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited April 2022
    iamdan said:
    Didn’t ESI call in some of the sell on clauses? 
    Or something. 
    I thought that was their plan, but they didn't get the chance to.

    In terms of Pope, he probably feels that if he has a decent season up to the World Cup, he has every chance. It probably doesn't matter what club, but he will want to be in the Premier League. West Ham would be perfect for him but Fulham would be better than staying at Burnley from a personal level. I think either of those could pay £17m to £20m.

    I don't know if the sell ons were on profit or based on the fee.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    iamdan said:
    Didn’t ESI call in some of the sell on clauses? 
    Or something. 
    You would have thought so...
  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,262
    Why is everyone making the assumption that he would only stay in the Prem? An England international could just as easily find a club abroad too.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    iamdan said:
    Didn’t ESI call in some of the sell on clauses? 
    Or something. 
    See the Cawley tweet I posted near the top of the thread.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,818
    Pope needs to get alot better with the ball at his feet for a top side, agreed he's an excellent keeper/shot stopper though
  • stevexreeve
    stevexreeve Posts: 1,386
    cafctom said:
    I still think there’s a chance he could stay there if they go down.

    English goalkeepers aren’t around in abundance in the Premier League - hence why you still see Johnstone from West Brom getting call ups regularly even though they are in the Championship.

    As we’ve seen with Fulham in recent years, the parachute payments are enough to keep the big earners hanging around.

    Think it all depends on whether a big club comes in for him which he/Burnley simply can’t refuse.
    Not that he'll start, but the fact it's a world cup year would likely make him want to leave.
    Why on earth would Nick want to spend 2-3 weeks in a hotel in Qatar? Certainly not worth basing career decisions around something like that.
  • cafctom said:
    I still think there’s a chance he could stay there if they go down.

    English goalkeepers aren’t around in abundance in the Premier League - hence why you still see Johnstone from West Brom getting call ups regularly even though they are in the Championship.

    As we’ve seen with Fulham in recent years, the parachute payments are enough to keep the big earners hanging around.

    Think it all depends on whether a big club comes in for him which he/Burnley simply can’t refuse.
    Not that he'll start, but the fact it's a world cup year would likely make him want to leave.
    Why on earth would Nick want to spend 2-3 weeks in a hotel in Qatar? Certainly not worth basing career decisions around something like that.
    We all know Pickford will start, but Pope may well back himself to be ahead of Ramsdale.

    So then it'd feel like he's one injury away from playing in a World Cup.
  • stevexreeve
    stevexreeve Posts: 1,386
    cafctom said:
    I still think there’s a chance he could stay there if they go down.

    English goalkeepers aren’t around in abundance in the Premier League - hence why you still see Johnstone from West Brom getting call ups regularly even though they are in the Championship.

    As we’ve seen with Fulham in recent years, the parachute payments are enough to keep the big earners hanging around.

    Think it all depends on whether a big club comes in for him which he/Burnley simply can’t refuse.
    Not that he'll start, but the fact it's a world cup year would likely make him want to leave.
    Why on earth would Nick want to spend 2-3 weeks in a hotel in Qatar? Certainly not worth basing career decisions around something like that.
    We all know Pickford will start, but Pope may well back himself to be ahead of Ramsdale.

    So then it'd feel like he's one injury away from playing in a World Cup.
    Can think of better things he could do with three weeks of his life than playing one game in a tin-pot tournament in the desert.  o:)
  • cafctom said:
    I still think there’s a chance he could stay there if they go down.

    English goalkeepers aren’t around in abundance in the Premier League - hence why you still see Johnstone from West Brom getting call ups regularly even though they are in the Championship.

    As we’ve seen with Fulham in recent years, the parachute payments are enough to keep the big earners hanging around.

    Think it all depends on whether a big club comes in for him which he/Burnley simply can’t refuse.
    Not that he'll start, but the fact it's a world cup year would likely make him want to leave.
    Why on earth would Nick want to spend 2-3 weeks in a hotel in Qatar? Certainly not worth basing career decisions around something like that.
    We all know Pickford will start, but Pope may well back himself to be ahead of Ramsdale.

    So then it'd feel like he's one injury away from playing in a World Cup.
    Can think of better things he could do with three weeks of his life than playing one game in a tin-pot tournament in the desert.  o:)
    Each to their own I guess.

    If I was a footballer I'd want to go to the World Cup.

    Got the rest of his life for holidays in the sun etc.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,175
    Sage said:
    Leicester.

    Schmeichel is 35 now, 36 this year, their back up keepers are not good and are old. A solid keeper like Pope for the next few years and at a club where he’ll get more attention to be included in the England squad. 
    Danny Ward is only 28 and Leicester paid £12.5m to bring him to the club with the intention of replacing Schmeichel. He's the Wales national keeper, which I know isn't the biggest compliment in the world, but he's a Premier League level keeper and he's there specifically to take over from Kasper.
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  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,003
    cafctom said:
    I still think there’s a chance he could stay there if they go down.

    English goalkeepers aren’t around in abundance in the Premier League - hence why you still see Johnstone from West Brom getting call ups regularly even though they are in the Championship.

    As we’ve seen with Fulham in recent years, the parachute payments are enough to keep the big earners hanging around.

    Think it all depends on whether a big club comes in for him which he/Burnley simply can’t refuse.
    Out of contract at the end of this season, premier clubs already queuing up for him .......... allegedly
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    who in the prem would currently take Pope??
    Spurs. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    who in the prem would currently take Pope??
    Spurs. 
    The ones that are getting Johnstone on a free? 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,875
    ross1 said:
    cafctom said:
    I still think there’s a chance he could stay there if they go down.

    English goalkeepers aren’t around in abundance in the Premier League - hence why you still see Johnstone from West Brom getting call ups regularly even though they are in the Championship.

    As we’ve seen with Fulham in recent years, the parachute payments are enough to keep the big earners hanging around.

    Think it all depends on whether a big club comes in for him which he/Burnley simply can’t refuse.
    Out of contract at the end of this season, premier clubs already queuing up for him .......... allegedly
    Most were expecting him to go in January, but it fell through
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    who in the prem would currently take Pope??
    Spurs. 
    The ones that are getting Johnstone on a free? 
    Remember when Chelsea had the best 2 Keepers in the Prem at once ?
    Cudicini and Cech 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    edited April 2022
    Sage said:
    Leicester.

    Schmeichel is 35 now, 36 this year, their back up keepers are not good and are old. A solid keeper like Pope for the next few years and at a club where he’ll get more attention to be included in the England squad. 
    Danny Ward is only 28 and Leicester paid £12.5m to bring him to the club with the intention of replacing Schmeichel. He's the Wales national keeper, which I know isn't the biggest compliment in the world, but he's a Premier League level keeper and he's there specifically to take over from Kasper.
    I said not good and old. So he’s not good and Jakupovic is old.

    Ward has never had a single season playing in the Premier League. He is not a Premier League keeper. At his age he has had what, one full season in the Championship? Ward won’t be the replacement to Schmeichel when he retires. Liverpool also always get good money for players who will never make it at the club, they are very good at that so the fee really doesn’t mean much at all. They got a combined total of around £50 million for Ward, Ibe, and Solanke. So far they’ve played an accumulated total of 120 Premier League games across 10 seasons. Not bad going for the selling club, even if Solanke has finally found form this season. 
  • who in the prem would currently take Pope??
    Spurs. 
    The ones that are getting Johnstone on a free? 
    Certainly going to be interesting: in terms of England keepers, Johnstone, Pope and Henderson all look pretty likely to move this summer.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    All I care about is us getting some money in for any transfer, and how much it will be.
    If Fulham offer Burnley 20 million for Pope, we should offer 25 in order to bump Fulham up to 30 😉 
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    £9.5 million it is then.
     :D 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited May 2022
    No way they will pay £40m for Pope but anything over £20m would be a positive for us.
  • Southendaddick
    Southendaddick Posts: 5,314
    West Ham would have him 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,754
    It's probably already been mentioned on another thread but it looks like Nick Pope is about to sign for Forest this week. Not sure what fee if any?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    It's probably already been mentioned on another thread but it looks like Nick Pope is about to sign for Forest this week. Not sure what fee if any?
    Sounds like it’ll be nowhere near £40m. Closer to £10-15m. Fulham sniffing around too. 
  • I'd be shocked if he ends up at Forest as i would've thought a few other clubs would want a relatively cheap England keeper. I thought Forest's current keeper Samba was quite good anyway?
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    I'd be shocked if he ends up at Forest as i would've thought a few other clubs would want a relatively cheap England keeper. I thought Forest's current keeper Samba was quite good anyway?
    Samba has refused a contract offer and has requested to leave the club.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,282
    I'd be shocked if he ends up at Forest as i would've thought a few other clubs would want a relatively cheap England keeper. I thought Forest's current keeper Samba was quite good anyway?
    Samba has refused a contract offer and has requested to leave the club.
    So Forest are desperate for a keeper, and Pope is English (adding a weird tax to his pricetag) and valued by Burnley at £40m

    There's no way they sell him for £10m surely
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,807
    edited June 2022
    sam3110 said:
    I'd be shocked if he ends up at Forest as i would've thought a few other clubs would want a relatively cheap England keeper. I thought Forest's current keeper Samba was quite good anyway?
    Samba has refused a contract offer and has requested to leave the club.
    So Forest are desperate for a keeper, and Pope is English (adding a weird tax to his pricetag) and valued by Burnley at £40m

    There's no way they sell him for £10m surely
    But isn't his value also dictated by the length of his contract and does he only have one year left on it? If that is true then in January he can start talking to clubs about going on a "free" at the end of the season. Do Burnley's money grabbing owners want to gamble on that happening especially as he's probably costing them £2m plus a year.
  • I'd be shocked if he ends up at Forest as i would've thought a few other clubs would want a relatively cheap England keeper. I thought Forest's current keeper Samba was quite good anyway?
    Samba has refused a contract offer and has requested to leave the club.
    Because he feels the contract offered was really low. So instead of paying him a bit more they're going to instead pay out 10-15m for Pope plus whatever his wages are (a hell of a lot more than Samba's i'm sure).

    Doesn't seem the smartest move when their money is probably better used in other areas of the team.