I thought we keep being told we can't play 442 as the midfield will be ripped to shreds. So wingbacks aren't the answer either then.
What you on about.. Nobody is playing 442. Both teams have 3 midfielders
I was making the point that posters on here are wanting to go back to 442 but it being pointed out that going back to the "old" system wouldn't work as the midfield would be over run.....but it seems that we are being overrun playing with wingbacks.
Jeez......not hard to see what I was saying.
So you're saying that if we're getting overrun with a 3-man midfield... then we should try a 2-man.
I can see why I was confused.
Also 442 means 4 in midfield. Or arent wingers/wide players allowed to move. Perhaps in netball or subuteo they dont.
Why don't we let Jose Mourinho settle this. I'm sure we can both agree he's forgotten more about football tactics than we could ever dream of knowing:
"Look, if I have a triangle in midfield – Claude Makelele behind and two others just in front – I will always have an advantage against a pure 4-4-2 where the central midfielders are side by side. That’s because I will always have an extra man. It starts with Makelele, who is between the lines. If nobody comes to him he can see the whole pitch and has time. If he gets closed down it means one of the two other central midfielders is open. If they are closed down and the other team’s wingers come inside to help, it means there is space now for us on the flank, either for our own wingers or for our full-backs. There is nothing a pure 4-4-2 can do to stop things."
43' Morgan launches an excellent pass from the back, over the top to Washington who take a good first touch, but fires straight at Mannion.
#camutd 0 #cafc 0
I wish referees would clamp down on this, even if it meant spraying penalties about all afternoon/evening.
Footballers may not be the smartest but even they would get the message eventually, even if it took the manager to sub/drop them to drive home the message.
I thought we keep being told we can't play 442 as the midfield will be ripped to shreds. So wingbacks aren't the answer either then.
What you on about.. Nobody is playing 442. Both teams have 3 midfielders
I was making the point that posters on here are wanting to go back to 442 but it being pointed out that going back to the "old" system wouldn't work as the midfield would be over run.....but it seems that we are being overrun playing with wingbacks.
Jeez......not hard to see what I was saying.
So you're saying that if we're getting overrun with a 3-man midfield... then we should try a 2-man.
I can see why I was confused.
Also 442 means 4 in midfield. Or arent wingers/wide players allowed to move. Perhaps in netball or subuteo they dont.
Why don't we let Jose Mourinho settle this. I'm sure we can both agree he's forgotten more about football tactics than we could ever dream of knowing:
"Look, if I have a triangle in midfield – Claude Makelele behind and two others just in front – I will always have an advantage against a pure 4-4-2 where the central midfielders are side by side. That’s because I will always have an extra man. It starts with Makelele, who is between the lines. If nobody comes to him he can see the whole pitch and has time. If he gets closed down it means one of the two other central midfielders is open. If they are closed down and the other team’s wingers come inside to help, it means there is space now for us on the flank, either for our own wingers or for our full-backs. There is nothing a pure 4-4-2 can do to stop things."
Ah yes, Mourinho. The bloke who thought the didnt lose even though his side didnt progress into the next round.
I thought we keep being told we can't play 442 as the midfield will be ripped to shreds. So wingbacks aren't the answer either then.
What you on about.. Nobody is playing 442. Both teams have 3 midfielders
I was making the point that posters on here are wanting to go back to 442 but it being pointed out that going back to the "old" system wouldn't work as the midfield would be over run.....but it seems that we are being overrun playing with wingbacks.
Jeez......not hard to see what I was saying.
So you're saying that if we're getting overrun with a 3-man midfield... then we should try a 2-man.
I can see why I was confused.
Also 442 means 4 in midfield. Or arent wingers/wide players allowed to move. Perhaps in netball or subuteo they dont.
Why don't we let Jose Mourinho settle this. I'm sure we can both agree he's forgotten more about football tactics than we could ever dream of knowing:
"Look, if I have a triangle in midfield – Claude Makelele behind and two others just in front – I will always have an advantage against a pure 4-4-2 where the central midfielders are side by side. That’s because I will always have an extra man. It starts with Makelele, who is between the lines. If nobody comes to him he can see the whole pitch and has time. If he gets closed down it means one of the two other central midfielders is open. If they are closed down and the other team’s wingers come inside to help, it means there is space now for us on the flank, either for our own wingers or for our full-backs. There is nothing a pure 4-4-2 can do to stop things."
Yeah but 442 like, umm, umm, umm.
I don't see the fascinating that goes on about it. No one at all has played it for nearly 20 years. Even Powell's team wasn't really a 442.
This will be a shock to many but the Liverpool match just about shades this one in terms of quality. Although saying that, Man U wouldn't look out of place in our game
Would love to be reading GolfRedDevil’s posts on ManUre Life tonight :-)
Just popped over there.
He's saying that if they attacked more and had more shots they could be winning 3-2 by now.
Honestly, we are absolutely hopeless. If I was TS and had sunk a few million into the club and had flown across the Atlantic to watch this I wouldnt be happy to put it mildly.
This will be a shock to many but the Liverpool match just about shades this one in terms of quality. Although saying that, Man U wouldn't look out of place in our game
Watching both. It's like watching two different sports. The only comparison is that both sports are being played with a round ball 😉
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"Look, if I have a triangle in midfield – Claude Makelele behind and two others just in front – I will always have an advantage against a pure 4-4-2 where the central midfielders are side by side. That’s because I will always have an extra man. It starts with Makelele, who is between the lines. If nobody comes to him he can see the whole pitch and has time. If he gets closed down it means one of the two other central midfielders is open. If they are closed down and the other team’s wingers come inside to help, it means there is space now for us on the flank, either for our own wingers or for our full-backs. There is nothing a pure 4-4-2 can do to stop things."
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Attempt saved. Conor Washington (Charlton Athletic) left footed shot from a difficult angle on the left is saved.
I wish referees would clamp down on this, even if it meant spraying penalties about all afternoon/evening.
Footballers may not be the smartest but even they would get the message eventually, even if it took the manager to sub/drop them to drive home the message.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61075996
And btw. I'm not even advocating 44bloody2 !!!
Some lighthearted half time entertainment..two sugars..
The match thread is 6 pages in and 4 of them is arguring the toss about 442.
That says it all tbh.
chances for us and cambridge, with their reserves edging it.
Meh.
I don't see the fascinating that goes on about it. No one at all has played it for nearly 20 years. Even Powell's team wasn't really a 442.
He's saying that if they attacked more and had more shots they could be winning 3-2 by now.
Blimey, he should try watching this.
Honestly, we are absolutely hopeless. If I was TS and had sunk a few million into the club and had flown across the Atlantic to watch this I wouldnt be happy to put it mildly.