Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

North Lower Neil

Wheresmeticket? said:

Belv said:

Addick_8 said:

All the non-season ticket holders on threatening to return their season tickets on Twitter is making my skin crawl.
We, as a fanbase serious need humbling

How does a non-season ticket holder return a season ticket they don't have?

Exactly - I think it was an ironic observation on the nature of empty gestures.

Watching and listening to the video that is doing the rounds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sKFHELgNFQ

and looking at his performance last season I am coming round to the "quite whelmed" position.

A young manager with some success under his belt, clearly with a brain, with a reason to want to take a difficult job in a higher league.  

Lost it for me when he praised Alan Pardew just after talking about working with people with similar values....

Mendonca In Asdas

shirty5 said:

Gary Cotterill is outside the Marriott, Bexleyheath 

Well it is quite pricey!!

Henry Irving

DA9 said:

Just been told that TS is definitely over next week with “other shareholders”
Read into that what you will.

interesting, very interesting.

North Lower Neil

Callumcafc said:

Check out goal 6 and goal 7 of Swindon's goal of the season competition. This is at the point in the season where you would imagine Garner's ideas were starting to click.



 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f-YQu4A4-8

That tune instantly makes me think of Sky Sports in about 2005.

eastterrace6168

Henry Irving said:

When can we start complaining about it taking so long, why aren't the comms team giving us an hourly update, why does Sandgaard disrespect the fans like this?
😉

C'mon @Henry Irving..you of all people...WIOTOS..

_MrDick

Callumcafc said:

Check out goal 6 and goal 7 of Swindon's goal of the season competition. This is at the point in the season where you would imagine Garner's ideas were starting to click.



 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f-YQu4A4-8

‘Kin ‘Ell … Jonny Williams in the mash up not once but three times. He hardly got anywhere scoring for us

RodneyCharltonTrotta

DA9 said:

Just been told that TS is definitely over next week with “other shareholders”
Read into that what you will.

T_C_E

DA9 said:

Just been told that TS is definitely over next week with “other shareholders”
Read into that what you will.

cahones will be pleased.
Bet he cant wait to tell TS how the new pitch is progressing, unless of course there are problems with it then he'll throw the groundstaff under the bus again.

eastterrace6168

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

DA9 said:

Just been told that TS is definitely over next week with “other shareholders”
Read into that what you will.

Like the idea of Trump, he has some good history on twitter, could mix it up a bit..

LoOkOuT

North Lower Neil said:

Lost it for me when he praised Alan Pardew just after talking about working with people with similar values....

I didn’t get past the part where he explained that he likes to read books and that the secret to his success is that he relies on the radically progressive practice of taking notes that he can refer to later. This guy’s cracked it!

Gribbo

seth plum said:

aliwibble said:

Leuth said:

Henry Irving said:

Southendaddick said:

And now we’ve got Ben Garner we’re f ing dynamite

The song can return 🕺

I think "Super Ben's Red and White Army" is better

This doesn't even scan.

 You know that I'm the first to critique poor scansion in songs people suggest, but given the abuse the first few syllables have been subjected to in previous iterations (either horribly drawn out or squished together depending on whose Red and White Army we're celebrating) I wouldn't say that it's worth exercising yourself over.

Personally I'm hoping for a revival of "he's got no hair but we don't care", but fear we'd have to start calling him Benny G to get it to scan.

Garner Ben
Garner Ben
Garner Garner Ben
He’s got no hair
But we don’t care
Garner Garner Ben.

Sorted.

Are you Bob Dylan?

seth plum

I once asked Karl Robinson if the players had ever read the Laws of Football. Quick as a flash he answered that most of them are too stupid to read.

Cafc43v3r

seth plum said:

I once asked Karl Robinson if the players had ever read the Laws of Football. Quick as a flash he answered that most of them are too stupid to read.

I know I am in a minority of 1 but really liked Karl Robinson.

swordfish

Leuth said:

Henry Irving said:

Southendaddick said:

And now we’ve got Ben Garner we’re f ing dynamite

The song can return 🕺

I think "Super Ben's Red and White Army" is better

This doesn't even scan.

If he does arrive, how about tweaking the Mitchell Johnson song.

He's not very tall

He ain't got no hair

Ben Garner's a red now

So what do we care?*

*Or 'His team plays with flair

I fear I'll be cancelled by the vertically and folically challenged contingent, of which I'm in the later category myself.

eaststandmike

randy andy said:

DA9 said:

randy andy said:

DA9 said:

Just been told that TS is definitely over next week with “other shareholders”
Read into that what you will.

If the "other shareholders" part is true, it leads to two possible conclusions:
1) TS is unwilling to bankroll our current losses on his own, i.e. it's more expensive than he thought it would be to compete
2) TS is bringing in extra investment to get us where he wants us to be, for the same reason as above

To a certain extent both could be considered "a good thing"(tm). If there's extra investors then it will dilute Tommy's control over the club and hopefully lead to a more structured decision making process, and probably a CEO being put in place who would represent all investors interests. And of course extra money (if it is option 2) is always nice to have at any level.

The hope from our point of view has to be that TS has realised that the squad simply isn't good enough and needs a major overhaul rather than the cheaper incremental improvements he was hoping for. My additional hope would be that he realised that he can't get the losses down whilst he doesn't own the ground, doesn't own Sparrows Lane and isn't a Cat 1 academy, and that additional investment is the only way to achieve those aims in a timely fashion.

Or maybe he's just got a rich mate who's a drummer and has convinced him to invest on the basis that they can perform together at the valley whenever they like and 10,000+ people have to watch them

Someone in the club told me, wouldn’t elaborate further, also said that genuinely doesn’t know who has the job or if anyones been offered it, but I would expect them to say that regardless tbh 

Fair enough, and all interesting stuff.

If TS is over next week then you'd expect an official announcement either not long before he arrives, or just after. He's going to want to be in videos/photos with the new manager either at announcement or very shortly afterwards,

Only we can fuck up the announcement of a new manager, if it is BG imagine what a let down the news and video will be when its made official. 

Certain people on here will be tearing the walls down in a week if BG has not signed 6 players, never mind been photographed with scarfy. 

RodneyCharltonTrotta

Cafc43v3r said:

seth plum said:

I once asked Karl Robinson if the players had ever read the Laws of Football. Quick as a flash he answered that most of them are too stupid to read.

I know I am in a minority of 1 but really liked Karl Robinson.

You're not.  I liked him too.

Lincsaddick

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

Cafc43v3r said:

seth plum said:

I once asked Karl Robinson if the players had ever read the Laws of Football. Quick as a flash he answered that most of them are too stupid to read.

I know I am in a minority of 1 but really liked Karl Robinson.

You're not.  I liked him too.

me as well despite him being a gasbag 

JamesSeed

Red_in_SE8 said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Red_in_SE8 said:

Just watched the highlights of the Port Vale v Swindon second leg play off match. I thought Port Vale completely dominated both possession and attempts on goal. 

You could have just looked at the stats for that

Interestingly, you are wrong, Swindon had slightly more possession (54%). They had 3 shots on goal less, but did only have one shot on target. In fairness to Garner, unless he was also playing in attack I'm not entirely sure that's completely his fault. 

I decided to watch it hoping to confirm the possession based style of play that the statistics that have been posted seemed to demonstrate. Obviously highlights of one game doesn’t prove anything one way or the other. But I was disappointed to not see a dominating passing possession based style of play. I have never heard of Ben Garner or watched any matches involving teams he was managing. 

Highlights were on the Quest show every week. I paid attention the the Swindon matches because of JW, and Davison later on. Their games always looked quite exciting. 

grumpyaddick

Loving the faux loyalty and enthusiasm for the new coach no one had never heard of until five minutes ago but suddenly everyone now acknowledges as the next Klopp.

Big and totally unnecessary gamble from our owner if true at a time when he can't afford many more mistakes.   

paulfox

eastterrace6168 said:

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

DA9 said:

Just been told that TS is definitely over next week with “other shareholders”
Read into that what you will.

Like the idea of Trump, he has some good history on twitter, could mix it up a bit..

Does Edd the duck prefer 3-5-2 or 4-3-3 though?

KBslittlesis

grumpyaddick said:

Loving the faux loyalty and enthusiasm for the new coach no one had never heard of until five minutes ago but suddenly everyone now acknowledges as the next Klopp.

Big and totally unnecessary gamble from our owner if true at a time when he can't afford many more mistakes.   

Big gamble I agree with.
Totally unnecessary?

I’m not so sure.

Callumcafc

Cafc43v3r said:

seth plum said:

I once asked Karl Robinson if the players had ever read the Laws of Football. Quick as a flash he answered that most of them are too stupid to read.

I know I am in a minority of 1 but really liked Karl Robinson.

Seems like he'd be great fun for a pint but wouldn't want him to be my manager...

Callumcafc

We are nearing that time now where it's been almost 24 hours.

We are going to start seeing the same people that were moaning yesterday about being underwhelmed, turn to moaning that it's not been announced yet.

carly burn

grumpyaddick said:

Loving the faux loyalty and enthusiasm for the new coach no one had never heard of until five minutes ago but suddenly everyone now acknowledges as the next Klopp.

Big and totally unnecessary gamble from our owner if true at a time when he can't afford many more mistakes.   

 It's how Charlton fans are programmed .

If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd we can't bring ourselves to accept it is a turd.

Wheresmeticket

grumpyaddick said:

Loving the faux loyalty and enthusiasm for the new coach no one had never heard of until five minutes ago but suddenly everyone now acknowledges as the next Klopp.

Big and totally unnecessary gamble from our owner if true at a time when he can't afford many more mistakes.   

 I think people are saying they can see positives. 

CL_Phantom

Callumcafc said:

We are nearing that time now where it's been almost 24 hours.

We are going to start seeing the same people that were moaning yesterday about being underwhelmed, turn to moaning that it's not been announced yet.

And then around that time we get the moaners that moan at the moaners come out to start having a good moan about the moaners moaning.

Kindoncasella

grumpyaddick said:

Loving the faux loyalty and enthusiasm for the new coach no one had never heard of until five minutes ago but suddenly everyone now acknowledges as the next Klopp.

Big and totally unnecessary gamble from our owner if true at a time when he can't afford many more mistakes.   

who wouldnt have been a big gamble?

balham red

carly burn said:

grumpyaddick said:

Loving the faux loyalty and enthusiasm for the new coach no one had never heard of until five minutes ago but suddenly everyone now acknowledges as the next Klopp.

Big and totally unnecessary gamble from our owner if true at a time when he can't afford many more mistakes.   

 It's how Charlton fans are programmed .

If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd we can't bring ourselves to accept it is a turd.

What are you talking about? There are tons of people throwing their toys out of the pram about it, because we couldn't attract managers that were wanted by Championship clubs.

Wheresmeticket

CL_Phantom said:

Callumcafc said:

We are nearing that time now where it's been almost 24 hours.

We are going to start seeing the same people that were moaning yesterday about being underwhelmed, turn to moaning that it's not been announced yet.

And then around that time we get the moaners that moan at the moaners come out to start having a good moan about the moaners moaning.

...and sooner or later someone is going to go "brigade" on someone and it'll kick off.

randy andy

eaststandmike said:

randy andy said:

DA9 said:

randy andy said:

DA9 said:

Just been told that TS is definitely over next week with “other shareholders”
Read into that what you will.

If the "other shareholders" part is true, it leads to two possible conclusions:
1) TS is unwilling to bankroll our current losses on his own, i.e. it's more expensive than he thought it would be to compete
2) TS is bringing in extra investment to get us where he wants us to be, for the same reason as above

To a certain extent both could be considered "a good thing"(tm). If there's extra investors then it will dilute Tommy's control over the club and hopefully lead to a more structured decision making process, and probably a CEO being put in place who would represent all investors interests. And of course extra money (if it is option 2) is always nice to have at any level.

The hope from our point of view has to be that TS has realised that the squad simply isn't good enough and needs a major overhaul rather than the cheaper incremental improvements he was hoping for. My additional hope would be that he realised that he can't get the losses down whilst he doesn't own the ground, doesn't own Sparrows Lane and isn't a Cat 1 academy, and that additional investment is the only way to achieve those aims in a timely fashion.

Or maybe he's just got a rich mate who's a drummer and has convinced him to invest on the basis that they can perform together at the valley whenever they like and 10,000+ people have to watch them

Someone in the club told me, wouldn’t elaborate further, also said that genuinely doesn’t know who has the job or if anyones been offered it, but I would expect them to say that regardless tbh 

Fair enough, and all interesting stuff.

If TS is over next week then you'd expect an official announcement either not long before he arrives, or just after. He's going to want to be in videos/photos with the new manager either at announcement or very shortly afterwards,

Only we can fuck up the announcement of a new manager, if it is BG imagine what a let down the news and video will be when its made official. 

Certain people on here will be tearing the walls down in a week if BG has not signed 6 players, never mind been photographed with scarfy. 

If it is going to be BG, then I reckon it'll be announced either tomorrow or Saturday. As you say, there's no way they can hold off an announcement any longer than that. TS will then fly in sometime between Saturday and Monday (no point in TS and investors arriving any later than that when the second half of the week is a double bank holiday)

If it's not going to be BG, then TS' imminent arrival suggests they hope to make an announcement next week