I have no idea what is going on at the moment,but one thing for sure,if I was TS and had committed the money he had to saving this club,I would look on this site at some of the piss taking remarks and say to myself"Fuck this for a game of soldiers,I am out".
exactly my thoughts - i hope it works out for him this year i really do coz however people view his decision making, there's no doubt he's trying and spending
I have no idea what is going on at the moment,but one thing for sure,if I was TS and had committed the money he had to saving this club,I would look on this site at some of the piss taking remarks and say to myself"Fuck this for a game of soldiers,I am out".
exactly my thoughts - i hope it works out for him this year i really do coz however people view his decision making, there's no doubt he's trying and spending
Well said .. the comments about him and his family are shocking he saved the club when no else had the bollocks for the fight … he started a long journey of undoing years and years going back to Richard Murray of neglect and cost cutting .. this is not going to sorted in 18 months ….I did see a vote on one site that asked if you still have confidence in TS and pleased to say the no’s were below 30% ….remember how long it’s taken a club with the financial clout of Man Utd to get the right manager and there still trying puts it into perspective
I have no idea what is going on at the moment,but one thing for sure,if I was TS and had committed the money he had to saving this club,I would look on this site at some of the piss taking remarks and say to myself"Fuck this for a game of soldiers,I am out".
exactly my thoughts - i hope it works out for him this year i really do coz however people view his decision making, there's no doubt he's trying and spending
Well said .. the comments about him and his family are shocking he saved the club when no else had the bollocks for the fight … he started a long journey of undoing years and years going back to Richard Murray of neglect and cost cutting .. this is not going to sorted in 18 months ….I did see a vote on one site that asked if you still have confidence in TS and pleased to say the no’s were below 30% ….remember how long it’s taken a club with the financial clout of Man Utd to get the right manager and there still trying puts it into perspective
Agreeed I just wish he wasn’t so arrogant about things , i think what he has done for club just should not be overlooked but he really isn’t making things easy for himself
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.
I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.
I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
No they haven't been forced to respond, fans and respected journo's talking about the appointment is standard practice.
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.
I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
In my opinion the vast majority of people kicking up a fuss at every move now are the ones who were upset Jackson was sacked. Plus a portion of miserable gits who complain at everything.
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.
I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.
this is laughable really - Cawley should at least be acknowledging that he may have got it wrong - based on the fact the most pivotal man in the whole deal says it isn't done - to say anything else is blinkered nonsense and not reporting the full story
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.
I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
In my opinion the vast majority of people kicking up a fuss at every move now are the ones who were upset Jackson was sacked. Plus a portion of miserable gits who complain at everything.
It would help if the club had a half decent CEO and a communication strategy instead of various associated people creating situations with random and ill considered tweets and then trying to manage them by the same route. It’s beyond amateurish.
And seriously the sacking and subsequent recruitment has been an absolute debacle by any standards. If the player recruitment is conducted in the same way then it’s very hard to be optimistic about the season.
I feel really sorry for whoever is appointed against the backdrop of this entirely avoidable chaos.
If we feel obliged to issue a statement because some journalists who are paid to write articles wrote some articles and fans who have a vested interest in the club took part in discussions around a question as fundamental as who our new manager might be, it's a bloody good job we aren't a bigger or better club than we are because we'd have to be putting out statements every 5 minutes.
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.
I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.
Well, that statement has poured more fuel on the fires of discontent.
Worst than that it will, assuming it happens, spoil the party when Garner is finally appointed.
A mistake. Not the end of the world but a big mistake none the less.
Maybe the owner was frustrated by the version of events being leaked from Swindon, perhaps because they want to force Charlton to pay more compensation than TS is wanting to pay but even if that was the case (I have no inside info) it was still a mistake.
It does point to both needing to bite your lip and ignore the comments and insults (yes, yes pot and kettle coming from me and no Cawley's comments weren't in anyway insulting or outside his remit as a local journalist) as well not consulting/listening to your experienced CEO, comms team or even your own appointed fan advisor who has a PR background and was selected largely because of that.
My fear is the family now draw up the drawbridge and take on an "us and them" mentality.
TS has spoken about a "one club" mentality and I understand the new CEO Jokat is pushing that same mantra.
To succeed the fans need to be a big, the biggest, part of that but this weekend has damaged that, I just hope not permanently.
Is he the CEO ? I thought he was coming in as COO ? (Though I know that burger boy had/has that title ?)
this is laughable really - Cawley should at least be acknowledging that he may have got it wrong - based on the fact the most pivotal man in the whole deal says it isn't done - to say anything else is blinkered nonsense and not reporting the full story
If Cawley has it wrong then so do TalkSport, The Athletic and Swindon local press.
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.
I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.
So what is the complete first hand information?
I believe the information Rich put out a fortnight ago was accurate and still stands, it just doesn't suit the club to have it out there for whatever reason. There may be some hairsplitting behind the club's position (such as job title, for example), but in terms of who succeeds Johnnie Jackson it is a done deal and has been since the story broke.
Still can't believe so many are taken in with sandgaard's crap
It’s OK to be grateful for him ‘saving’ the club and criticising his mistakes. The blind defence of him and his family (solely in relation to Charlton) is baffling.
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.
I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
No they haven't been forced to respond, fans and respected journo's talking about the appointment is standard practice.
Well they have, because if the club are saying that the reports aren't accurate, then they are being forced into responding, understandably, to correct that.
Im not disputing the standard practise, the club, for whatever reasons, believe that the reports are incorrect.
Scoham is slightly mistaken, he was Head Recruitment Analyst at Wigan. So although no doubt played a major role for Wigan, this is a role with much greater responsibilities.
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.
I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.
Do the club not have a right to handle their affairs as they see fit, even if the majority of us don't like that stance?
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.
I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.
Do the club not have a right to handle their affairs as they see fit, even if the majority of us don't like that stance?
Indeed, but if they deliberately mislead fans in the process then they should expect damage to the credibility of those responsible.
The media also have a right to report on the club's affairs as they see fit within the law regardless of what the current owner thinks about that.
Let's see how it plays out, shall we? The media view is that Garner has the job - I doubt if a qualification over job title, contract length, etc, would seem to most people a proportionate reason to rubbish the stories that are out there.
If the media have it substantively wrong then they will get the reputational hit. That's the nature of the business.
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I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.
And seriously the sacking and subsequent recruitment has been an absolute debacle by any standards. If the player recruitment is conducted in the same way then it’s very hard to be optimistic about the season.
I feel really sorry for whoever is appointed against the backdrop of this entirely avoidable chaos.
Brian Jokat appointed as Chief Operating Officer | CAFC
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Whatever it is, you can be sure that Jokat (Robo-Sandgaard) will sing the same tune.
Im not disputing the standard practise, the club, for whatever reasons, believe that the reports are incorrect.
He bloody loves roundabouts.
The media also have a right to report on the club's affairs as they see fit within the law regardless of what the current owner thinks about that.
Let's see how it plays out, shall we? The media view is that Garner has the job - I doubt if a qualification over job title, contract length, etc, would seem to most people a proportionate reason to rubbish the stories that are out there.
If the media have it substantively wrong then they will get the reputational hit. That's the nature of the business.