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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • Has a club ever announced the new manager/head coach before the previous one has left yet?
  • Scoham said:
    Swindon have already replaced Ben Chorley with Sandro Di Michele. He was Head of Recruitment at Wigan, helping them to win League 1.
    Cue “We’ll probably get Sandra and Michelle from Accounts on a job share” wibble…
  • PWR the more recent posts.

    I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.

    Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about. 

    I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
    Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.
    Do the club not have a right to handle their affairs as they see fit, even if the majority of us don't like that stance? 
    Indeed, but if they deliberately mislead fans in the process then they should expect damage to the credibility of those responsible.

    The media also have a right to report on the club's affairs as they see fit within the law regardless of what the current owner thinks about that.

    Let's see how it plays out, shall we? The media view is that Garner has the job - I doubt if a qualification over job title, contract length, etc, would seem to most people a proportionate reason to rubbish the stories that are out there.

    If the media have it substantively wrong then they will get the reputational hit. That's the nature of the business.
    Media reports now that Swindon have approached Orient re Wellens.  All rather odd.
  • The other aspect to this is current staff are in posts so maybe this needs to be managed first before any big announcement 
  • Why did he leave Wigan for Swindon?
    Scoham is slightly mistaken, he was Head Recruitment Analyst at Wigan. So although no doubt played a major role for Wigan, this is a role with much greater responsibilities. 
    Ah fair enough, misread it. Makes sense given it’s a promotion for him.
  • Can we use the word “imminent” yet or is it still too painful after the takeover episode? 🥸
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  • Redrobo said:
    PWR the more recent posts.

    I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.

    Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about. 

    I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
    Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.
    So what is the complete first hand information?
    I believe the information Rich put out a fortnight ago was accurate and still stands, it just doesn't suit the club to have it out there for whatever reason. There may be some hairsplitting behind the club's position (such as job title, for example), but in terms of who succeeds Johnnie Jackson it is a done deal and has been since the story broke. 
    Excellent news. 
    A bit surprising that the deal has been done and his back room staff deal has not been completed as this could put him in an invidious position. Or have those deals also been done and compensation agreed?
  • shirty5 said:
    JamesSeed said:
    We’re in a bit of a bubble on CL. 
    In a crowd of 13 or 14 thousand at the first match of the season, how many of them will be regulars on CL? 4 or 5 hundred maybe? Most in the crowd won’t even be aware of the delays, the poor communication and the social media shenanigans, I would imagine.
    Not that the debate hasn’t been quite interesting on here, but I do think we get a bit het up sometimes.
    If anyone has an interest in Charlton Athletic regardless if they don’t have access to the internet (Not many in this days and age plus the ones that don’t would have made aware by friends and family) will be aware that they don’t have a manager in charge and has been the case for nearly 5 weeks. 

    Nothing wrong with debate otherwise what’s the point of any forum. 
    Nothing wrong with debating except spouting contrary views on the formed from worthless  opinions is not a debate, 

  • Redrobo said:
    Redrobo said:
    PWR the more recent posts.

    I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.

    Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about. 

    I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
    Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.
    So what is the complete first hand information?
    I believe the information Rich put out a fortnight ago was accurate and still stands, it just doesn't suit the club to have it out there for whatever reason. There may be some hairsplitting behind the club's position (such as job title, for example), but in terms of who succeeds Johnnie Jackson it is a done deal and has been since the story broke. 
    Excellent news. 
    A bit surprising that the deal has been done and his back room staff deal has not been completed as this could put him in an invidious position. Or have those deals also been done and compensation agreed?
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-poised-to-appoint-swindon-towns-ben-garner-as-new-manager/
  • Doesn't a club usually say 'we have given permission for him to speak to Charlton' or something like that? Have Swindon asked us not to announce anything until they have someone in place? 
  • Anyone thinking some of the comments about TS on here are harsh should check out the #cafc on Twitter.  
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  • Scoham said:
    Swindon have already replaced Ben Chorley with Sandro Di Michele. He was Head of Recruitment at Wigan, helping them to win League 1.
    All this 'acting quickly to secure a replacement after someone leaves' seems a bit fancy, i wonder what that's like.

    Hire in haste, repent at leisure, rather it takes "forever" and get the right people in, that is more important than acting hastily and regretting it,...Yes i know it has been 5 weeks and counting, no need to remind me that,,..WIOTOS all in good time, just chill..🍺🍺
    WIOTFOS
  • Wild and crazy speculation by me but I hope that Sandgaard isn't going to pull out of a 99.99% done deal re: Garner and appoint a second or third choice just to "prove" it wasn't actually a "done deal".

    No reason at all to think he'd be so petty but this whole thing is turning so soap opera I can't help but wonder.
  • Scoham said:
    Swindon have already replaced Ben Chorley with Sandro Di Michele. He was Head of Recruitment at Wigan, helping them to win League 1.
    All this 'acting quickly to secure a replacement after someone leaves' seems a bit fancy, i wonder what that's like.

    Hire in haste, repent at leisure, rather it takes "forever" and get the right people in, that is more important than acting hastily and regretting it,...Yes i know it has been 5 weeks and counting, no need to remind me that,,..WIOTOS all in good time, just chill..🍺🍺
    WIOTFOS
    🍺🍺😎
  • Leuth said:
    cfgs said:
    Anyone thinking some of the comments about TS on here are harsh should check out the #cafc on Twitter.  
    DO NOT DO THIS
    We do have some special fans don’t we!
  • Redrobo said:
    Redrobo said:
    PWR the more recent posts.

    I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.

    Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about. 

    I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
    Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.
    So what is the complete first hand information?
    I believe the information Rich put out a fortnight ago was accurate and still stands, it just doesn't suit the club to have it out there for whatever reason. There may be some hairsplitting behind the club's position (such as job title, for example), but in terms of who succeeds Johnnie Jackson it is a done deal and has been since the story broke. 
    Excellent news. 
    A bit surprising that the deal has been done and his back room staff deal has not been completed as this could put him in an invidious position. Or have those deals also been done and compensation agreed?
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-poised-to-appoint-swindon-towns-ben-garner-as-new-manager/
    Well why haven’t we signed any players then? He has been here and for a couple of weeks. Needs to get his finger out.
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