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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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Doesn't a club usually say 'we have given permission for him to speak to Charlton' or something like that? Have Swindon asked us not to announce anything until they have someone in place?3
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That's part of the problem , the club are paying too much attention to what's said on social media. 50% of fans probably don't even go on social media. An increasing number on this site are throwing their toys out the pram but I don't think they represent the majority. TS is paying the bills , we may not be going anywhere soon ( promotion ) but there is no alternative. Nobody is going to pay Roland's valuation so let TS get on with the job , his way.blackpool72 said:
Not that easy to get out if he wants any sort of return of his money.thickandthin63 said:I have no idea what is going on at the moment,but one thing for sure,if I was TS and had committed the money he had to saving this club,I would look on this site at some of the piss taking remarks and say to myself"Fuck this for a game of soldiers,I am out".
Who in their right mind would buy the club if it didn't include the valley.
Mistakes made will cost him money in the long run , no CEO on the ground being the most obvious. We just have to hope he learns quickly and backs off social media a bit.5 -
He can do whatever he likes, just as he doubled down on his nonsense about the club's historic losses earlier this year. It didn't make what he said true, just because he kept repeating it. The issue here is that he/Raelynn are choosing to challenge what the media is saying.Rob said:It’s obvious it’s a done deal but some negotiations are still ongoing. That’s my take. And if Thomas wants to do things that way I’m fine with that. Why should he tow the line and do things the way the journos want him to, for example. He’s a big boy and will do it his own way. It will be officially announced when he’s ready and that’s his prerogative in my opinion.14 -
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Anyone thinking some of the comments about TS on here are harsh should check out the #cafc on Twitter.3
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All this 'acting quickly to secure a replacement after someone leaves' seems a bit fancy, i wonder what that's like.Scoham said:Swindon have already replaced Ben Chorley with Sandro Di Michele. He was Head of Recruitment at Wigan, helping them to win League 1.5 -
Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All this 'acting quickly to secure a replacement after someone leaves' seems a bit fancy, i wonder what that's like.Scoham said:Swindon have already replaced Ben Chorley with Sandro Di Michele. He was Head of Recruitment at Wigan, helping them to win League 1.
Hire in haste, repent at leisure, rather it takes "forever" and get the right people in, that is more important than acting hastily and regretting it,...Yes i know it has been 5 weeks and counting, no need to remind me that,,..WIOTOS all in good time, just chill..🍺🍺7 -
WIOTFOSeastterrace6168 said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All this 'acting quickly to secure a replacement after someone leaves' seems a bit fancy, i wonder what that's like.Scoham said:Swindon have already replaced Ben Chorley with Sandro Di Michele. He was Head of Recruitment at Wigan, helping them to win League 1.
Hire in haste, repent at leisure, rather it takes "forever" and get the right people in, that is more important than acting hastily and regretting it,...Yes i know it has been 5 weeks and counting, no need to remind me that,,..WIOTOS all in good time, just chill..🍺🍺2 -
Well I don't care who eventually gets the job, I am prepared to give them 30 seconds before piss taking commences...7
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Wild and crazy speculation by me but I hope that Sandgaard isn't going to pull out of a 99.99% done deal re: Garner and appoint a second or third choice just to "prove" it wasn't actually a "done deal".
No reason at all to think he'd be so petty but this whole thing is turning so soap opera I can't help but wonder.1 -
🍺🍺😎maddferrett said:
WIOTFOSeastterrace6168 said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All this 'acting quickly to secure a replacement after someone leaves' seems a bit fancy, i wonder what that's like.Scoham said:Swindon have already replaced Ben Chorley with Sandro Di Michele. He was Head of Recruitment at Wigan, helping them to win League 1.
Hire in haste, repent at leisure, rather it takes "forever" and get the right people in, that is more important than acting hastily and regretting it,...Yes i know it has been 5 weeks and counting, no need to remind me that,,..WIOTOS all in good time, just chill..🍺🍺0 -
Well why haven’t we signed any players then? He has been here and for a couple of weeks. Needs to get his finger out.Airman Brown said:
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-poised-to-appoint-swindon-towns-ben-garner-as-new-manager/Redrobo said:
Excellent news.Airman Brown said:
I believe the information Rich put out a fortnight ago was accurate and still stands, it just doesn't suit the club to have it out there for whatever reason. There may be some hairsplitting behind the club's position (such as job title, for example), but in terms of who succeeds Johnnie Jackson it is a done deal and has been since the story broke.Redrobo said:
So what is the complete first hand information?Airman Brown said:
Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.sillav nitram said:PWR the more recent posts.
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?A bit surprising that the deal has been done and his back room staff deal has not been completed as this could put him in an invidious position. Or have those deals also been done and compensation agreed?
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A deal is not done until it’s done - I’d have thought u of all people would have learnt that by nowAirman Brown said:
Indeed, but if they deliberately mislead fans in the process then they should expect damage to the credibility of those responsible.sillav nitram said:
Do the club not have a right to handle their affairs as they see fit, even if the majority of us don't like that stance?Airman Brown said:
Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.sillav nitram said:PWR the more recent posts.
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
The media also have a right to report on the club's affairs as they see fit within the law regardless of what the current owner thinks about that.
Let's see how it plays out, shall we? The media view is that Garner has the job - I doubt if a qualification over job title, contract length, etc, would seem to most people a proportionate reason to rubbish the stories that are out there.
If the media have it substantively wrong then they will get the reputational hit. That's the nature of the business.10 -
Anyone else thinking of transferring their allegiance to Swindon?3
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The first response to an official tweet saying we need a manager or players first was a tiny bittle amusing, each subsequent effort becomes less so.Swisdom said:
Everyone has a right to an opinion but why all the faux or real anger, it can't be good for them.1 -
No, that's Henry WIOTOSDOUCHER said:
A deal is not done until it’s done - I’d have thought u of all people would have learnt that by nowAirman Brown said:
Indeed, but if they deliberately mislead fans in the process then they should expect damage to the credibility of those responsible.sillav nitram said:
Do the club not have a right to handle their affairs as they see fit, even if the majority of us don't like that stance?Airman Brown said:
Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.sillav nitram said:PWR the more recent posts.
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
The media also have a right to report on the club's affairs as they see fit within the law regardless of what the current owner thinks about that.
Let's see how it plays out, shall we? The media view is that Garner has the job - I doubt if a qualification over job title, contract length, etc, would seem to most people a proportionate reason to rubbish the stories that are out there.
If the media have it substantively wrong then they will get the reputational hit. That's the nature of the business.
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He’s just as badOggy Red said:
No, that's Henry WIOTOSDOUCHER said:
A deal is not done until it’s done - I’d have thought u of all people would have learnt that by nowAirman Brown said:
Indeed, but if they deliberately mislead fans in the process then they should expect damage to the credibility of those responsible.sillav nitram said:
Do the club not have a right to handle their affairs as they see fit, even if the majority of us don't like that stance?Airman Brown said:
Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.sillav nitram said:PWR the more recent posts.
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
The media also have a right to report on the club's affairs as they see fit within the law regardless of what the current owner thinks about that.
Let's see how it plays out, shall we? The media view is that Garner has the job - I doubt if a qualification over job title, contract length, etc, would seem to most people a proportionate reason to rubbish the stories that are out there.
If the media have it substantively wrong then they will get the reputational hit. That's the nature of the business.0 -
Another day lost.0
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Mmmmm…….I’m not sure it’s arrogance, more likely a bit of naivety if you ask me.CH4RLTON said:
Agreeed I just wish he wasn’t so arrogant about things , i think what he has done for club just should not be overlooked but he really isn’t making things easy for himselfRonnieMoore said:
Well said .. the comments about him and his family are shocking he saved the club when no else had the bollocks for the fight … he started a long journey of undoing years and years going back to Richard Murray of neglect and cost cutting .. this is not going to sorted in 18 months ….I did see a vote on one site that asked if you still have confidence in TS and pleased to say the no’s were below 30% ….remember how long it’s taken a club with the financial clout of Man Utd to get the right manager and there still trying puts it into perspectiveDOUCHER said:
exactly my thoughts - i hope it works out for him this year i really do coz however people view his decision making, there's no doubt he's trying and spendingthickandthin63 said:I have no idea what is going on at the moment,but one thing for sure,if I was TS and had committed the money he had to saving this club,I would look on this site at some of the piss taking remarks and say to myself"Fuck this for a game of soldiers,I am out".2 -
I heard he was a train fanatic 😁RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Covered End said:Why did he leave Wigan for Swindon?
He bloody loves roundabouts.0 -
Any news from the sausage dog?1
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Yes. He still likes sausages.Mendonca In Asdas said:Any news from the sausage dog?2 -
If we did, we'd only complain that we have no clarity about who the manager is, then complain when we let him move to Charlton and set up a whole thread bemoaning that despite this rumbling on for weeks there wasn't a replacement ready to be announced at the same time as the Garner departure.thai malaysia addick said:Anyone else thinking of transferring their allegiance to Swindon?
Oh and we would all fall in love with Jonny Williams again, then find out he had been sold to Forest Green Rovers or injured or both.1 -
Airman Brown said:
Indeed, but if they deliberately mislead fans in the process then they should expect damage to the credibility of those responsible.sillav nitram said:
Do the club not have a right to handle their affairs as they see fit, even if the majority of us don't like that stance?Airman Brown said:
Wild speculation? There is a stand-off between media and Charlton because reporters at both ends of the transaction do not believe the club and won't accept its version based on their own sources. In the end there are at least three parties with first-hand information and only one of them is responsible for the club's statement.sillav nitram said:PWR the more recent posts.
I really don’t see what the problem is with the club statement? They’ve been forced into responding because of all the wild speculation that’s going around and not put out by the club, which seems perfectly understandable to me.
Yes, we all wish a new manager, coaching staff and players were all in place but the reason they ain’t is presumably stuff going on behind the scenes that very few if any, know about.I imagine Sandgaard and all would’ve liked the same but it is what it is and why add to the furore by creating and kicking up such a fuss over things unknown?
The media also have a right to report on the club's affairs as they see fit within the law regardless of what the current owner thinks about that.
Let's see how it plays out, shall we? The media view is that Garner has the job - I doubt if a qualification over job title, contract length, etc, would seem to most people a proportionate reason to rubbish the stories that are out there.
If the media have it substantively wrong then they will get the reputational hit. That's the nature of the business.
Are the club deliberately misleading or simply not wanting information out there that's either false or misleading?1 -
The Red Robin said:
Yes. He still likes sausages.Mendonca In Asdas said:Any news from the sausage dog?
I gather he does not like frankfurters.
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Why do we make a pig's ear out of everything? That is the question at the front of my mind.4
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If the folk at Swindon are holding out for more dosh they must have extremely short memories.
On the 11th March 2000 we were 12 points ahead in the division, Swindon were 6 points adrift at the bottom. Dean Kiely presented them with an own goal - and three points at the Valley. Not only that but we gave Willie Carson a cheque for 2 grand on the pitch at half time cos they were so hard up.
I mean, talk about ungrateful, tight sods they should gift us their management team.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOHODMlGHrU 9 -
That Dean Keeley looked rubbish, doubt he lasted longRaith_C_Chattonell said:If the folk at Swindon are holding out for more dosh they must have extremely short memories.
On the 11th March 2000 we were 12 points ahead in the division, Swindon were 6 points adrift at the bottom. Dean Kiely presented them with an own goal - and three points at the Valley. Not only that but we gave Willie Carson a cheque for 2 grand on the pitch at half time cos they were so hard up.
I mean, talk about ungrateful, tight sods they should gift us their management team.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOHODMlGHrU 
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