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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,333
    edited June 2022
    You wonder, well I wonder…to be successful in his business, he must be very shrewd at marketing, or have people who are shrewd at marketing. This process has turned Garner from someone that we didn’t seem to want (mostly) to someone we just want to get over the line. Will this process sell another 1000 season tickets? Marketing is a clever business these days that uses a lot of use of psychology and behavioural economics. #justsaying.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,898

    Uboat said:
    DOUCHER said:
    lighten up everybody - what has TS done wrong other than say its not quite done yet ? people do love a moan 
    Thanks for that hot new take!
    wasn't trying to be original - not really been keeping up to date on here tbh but comforting to know you haven't changed - a bit like a splinter or a bunion or a dull headache 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    DOUCHER said:
    lighten up everybody - what has TS done wrong other than say its not quite done yet ? people do love a moan 
    Not TS himself perhaps but someone close to him made a completely unnecessary and unhelpful reply to a Twitter message by a well respected and connected journo. 

    Then the club/TS doubled down with a rather baffling "official statement" that did little if anything to actually clarify and seemed more like another (also unneeded) jab at the press/journo in question.


    It's not the end of the world on its own but it's a bit of a mess and one entirely of their own making frankly. Especially given how long the process seems to be taking - that is probably not entirely due to any single party but whoever wrote/authorised that statement has badly failed to read the metaphorical room IMO.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    Roland with a guitar.

    Sums it up for me.

    The statement looked short fuse/angry/panic attack, but it was at least written in English.

    Any decent experienced manager getting interviewed may likely be on the phone to Nigel Adkins enquiring him about his time at Charlton.

    It won't be positive feedback.
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,586
    edited June 2022
    Someone on Swindon forum is saying Garner has gone and the slowdown is compo for the 2 Scott's. Can't be announced until everything is agreed with all 3.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Rather than it being blamed entirely on the Sandgaard's, could it simply be that Swindon agreed for us to be allowed for the Garner approach on the grounds that we do not put any statements out until they announce his replacement?

    Saying that I've just finished a second bottle of prosecco at Butlins with the Mrs and kids, so could just be nonsense.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    edited June 2022
    ButtleJR said:
    Someone on Swindon forum is saying Garner has gone and the slowdown is compo for the 2 Scott's. Can't be announced until everything is agreed with all 3.
    Assumed that was the case. Garner is successful with that backroom staff. Stupid not to bring them with him.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    Dazzler21 said:
    Rather than it being blamed entirely on the Sandgaard's, could it simply be that Swindon agreed for us to be allowed for the Garner approach on the grounds that we do not put any statements out until they announce his replacement?

    Saying that I've just finished a second bottle of prosecco at Butlins with the Mrs and kids, so could just be nonsense.
    Probably shouldn’t let the kids drink Prosecco mate, it’s a proper man’s drink that one…
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    ButtleJR said:
    Someone on Swindon forum is saying Garner has gone and the slowdown is compo for the 2 Scott's. Can't be announced until everything is agreed with all 3.
    I wonder if one or both have been offered the manager’s job at Swindon? 
  • I don’t think it matters much as long as it’s sorted in good time. Who knows what’s going on behind the scenes in terms of coaching staff and player acquisition. It’s a good while before we need firm opinions.
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  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    Is it just me, but surely the compensation for both coaches will be nominal when neither have coached to a high level, they’re not number one and both willing to leave with Garner? Are we really dragging our heels on what is likely to be a very small sum? I’m not saying we have loads of money to waste but it’s not going to be a large fee they’re asking for.

    Otherwise, if this drags on more, is it not unreasonable to think both coaches could resign and just join Garner to us without the compensation?
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    ButtleJR said:
    Someone on Swindon forum is saying Garner has gone and the slowdown is compo for the 2 Scott's. Can't be announced until everything is agreed with all 3.
    It’s not MonnieRoore is it?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    Sage said:
    Is it just me, but surely the compensation for both coaches will be nominal when neither have coached to a high level, they’re not number one and both willing to leave with Garner? Are we really dragging our heels on what is likely to be a very small sum? I’m not saying we have loads of money to waste but it’s not going to be a large fee they’re asking for.

    Otherwise, if this drags on more, is it not unreasonable to think both coaches could resign and just join Garner to us without the compensation?
    I've been thinking the same.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Sage said:
    Is it just me, but surely the compensation for both coaches will be nominal when neither have coached to a high level, they’re not number one and both willing to leave with Garner? Are we really dragging our heels on what is likely to be a very small sum? I’m not saying we have loads of money to waste but it’s not going to be a large fee they’re asking for.

    Otherwise, if this drags on more, is it not unreasonable to think both coaches could resign and just join Garner to us without the compensation?
    Agreed, it's unlikely to be substantial but paying for 3 lots of compo is unlikely to appeal to Garner. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Sandgaard is trying to persuade him to bring neither or possibly one with Euell obviously still here to be first-team coach to complete the 3 man team. 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Valley11 said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Someone on Swindon forum is saying Garner has gone and the slowdown is compo for the 2 Scott's. Can't be announced until everything is agreed with all 3.
    I wonder if one or both have been offered the manager’s job at Swindon? 
    Wellens is the favourite I think. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    edited June 2022
    It's the need for drama that is getting increasing attention, rather than stability of late.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    edited June 2022
    And this is meant to be a fun hobby??
    It's not a hobby is it. Having a beer with your mates and seeing a few semi-interesting places is the hobby. The rest is a penance!
    I really do want to know what I did in s past life.
  • sholland
    sholland Posts: 484
    The circus will be rolling into town this week the ringmaster will announce coco the clown as manager or whoever it is, then we can move onto the next car crash of his own making. 
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    TomNight said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Someone on Swindon forum is saying Garner has gone and the slowdown is compo for the 2 Scott's. Can't be announced until everything is agreed with all 3.
    Sounds reasonable and understandably things take time. What I don’t understand is how or why the club (and wives!) are getting entangled in social media nonsense. Firstly we shouldn’t be lowering ourselves to that, and in any case is it not best to just let sleeping dogs lie until “a” deal is done. 

    As soon as you put things out there you involve yourself in the drama triangle. 
    That’s because everyone else is doing their best to create a drama, with wild accusations and assumptions.

    Is it possible for a thread to spontaneously combust?
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  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,839
    sholland said:
    The circus will be rolling into town this week the ringmaster will announce coco the clown as manager or whoever it is, then we can move onto the next car crash of his own making. 
    Is this the PM or TS?
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    TomNight said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Someone on Swindon forum is saying Garner has gone and the slowdown is compo for the 2 Scott's. Can't be announced until everything is agreed with all 3.
    Sounds reasonable and understandably things take time. What I don’t understand is how or why the club (and wives!) are getting entangled in social media nonsense. Firstly we shouldn’t be lowering ourselves to that, and in any case is it not best to just let sleeping dogs lie until “a” deal is done. 

    As soon as you put things out there you involve yourself in the drama triangle. 
    That’s because everyone else is doing their best to create a drama, with wild accusations and assumptions.

    Is it possible for a thread to spontaneously combust?
    If only Martin.
  • Rylo
    Rylo Posts: 860
    I have no idea what is going on at the moment,but one thing for sure,if I was TS and had committed the money he had to saving this club,I would look on this site at some of the piss taking remarks and say to myself"Fuck this for a game of soldiers,I am out".
    I’m not sure he’s able to get out though! 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    I have no idea what is going on at the moment,but one thing for sure,if I was TS and had committed the money he had to saving this club,I would look on this site at some of the piss taking remarks and say to myself"Fuck this for a game of soldiers,I am out".
    If you believe some of the rumours he’s trying to sell but the interest possibly isn’t there.
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    So big week ahead... new manager, new backroom staff, 6 signings, new kit! We can dream...
  • I have no idea what is going on at the moment,but one thing for sure,if I was TS and had committed the money he had to saving this club,I would look on this site at some of the piss taking remarks and say to myself"Fuck this for a game of soldiers,I am out".
    I don’t think so…Surely this forum is for fans to discuss rumours,  speculation and possibilities - naturally you’ll get a complete mix of opinions and fake news - our club is listening to the fan base on social media and have updated us where they can (poor Oli having to write a statement on Sunday) 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668
    I have no idea what is going on at the moment,but one thing for sure,if I was TS and had committed the money he had to saving this club,I would look on this site at some of the piss taking remarks and say to myself"Fuck this for a game of soldiers,I am out".
    Not that easy to get out if he wants any sort of return of his money. 
    Who in their right mind would buy the club if it didn't include the valley. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    I have no idea what is going on at the moment,but one thing for sure,if I was TS and had committed the money he had to saving this club,I would look on this site at some of the piss taking remarks and say to myself"Fuck this for a game of soldiers,I am out".
    Not that easy to get out if he wants any sort of return of his money. 
    Who in their right mind would buy the club if it didn't include the valley. 
    If he wanted to cut his losses and run he could.