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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Daniel Farke the ex Norwich Manager. He twice got Norwich promoted. He is my choice. I do not like Lennon at all.  
    He had a lot of finance and resources at Norwich including a lot of money from parachute payments from the prem.

    Nothing to suggest he would be successful for us working to TS’s budget buys and desire to break even.

  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    I'd fully expect Farke at Blackburn or QPR. Can't see he's going to drop into League 1. 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    Farke would be a good appointment.

    If for nothing else, than to be able to holler 'For Farkes 'ake' when the inevitable losing streak starts 
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,756
    Warburton is aspirationally optimistic. Farke is fantasy. Beale or Warburton and I’d be happy. 👍
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    I’ll be honest I have no idea about sectarianism and the historic hatred between Rangers and Celtic so no idea why everyone hates Lennon for that however I see no positives from him as a manager given it was a two horse race in Scotland and didn’t end well.

    for me Beale and Warburton are the appealing options given they would look to build a culture here I think.  Beale might prefer to be more in the background though 

    under no circumstances would I welcome Bowyer back.  
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    Remembering Bowen on Charlton tv and he came across as no nonsense so I'd choose him if it was down to me. 
  • From the quotes from AFC Wimbledon I reckon it will be Bowen
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,015
    If you believe what you read on twitter then he'll be going to a championship club. 
  • RC_CAFC said:
    Warburton is aspirationally optimistic. Farke is fantasy. Beale or Warburton and I’d be happy. 👍
    Problem is, Warburton left Brentford because the policy at the time was very much like Charltons, high belief in stats and limited say in player recruitment. Unless he has changed his views, I dont think he would willingly accept our way of doing things
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 689
    BetVictor
    Hasselbaink 3/1
    Warburton 4/1
    Bowyer 5/1
    Lennon 5/1
    Beale 6/1
    Ferguson 8/1
    Taylor 10/1

    WillHill
    Lennon 6/4
    Warburton 4/1
    Beale 5/1
    Bowyer 6/1
    Hasselbaink 6/1
    Ferguson 8/1
    Appleton 8/1

    Clearly the bookies are just as in the dark as we are.  Perhaps indicates no appointment is imminent.
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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    cfgs said:
    Billyboy said:
    Lennon 6/4 fav now 🤦‍♂️
    I am not bothered by his allegiances or which side of the sectarian divide he comes from, what does worry me is other than that first spell at Celtic he has been an angry failure.
    Couldn’t care less what religion he is and if you’re bothered by that nonsense you’re a tool. I am bothered that he’s not a good manager. 
  • Was informed that Beale will be a non starter as he was not happy that Thomas said he had contacted him in an interview when Adkins left. I can't recall this can anyone verify please? Hoping this is not the case and Beale is a possibility. Thomas has verified to me that he tried to contact Beale last time.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
     Sectarianism has led to over 3000 violent deaths during the modern troubles in Ireland, and those sentiments spill over to a degree in Scotland.
    Those troubles have dominated a huge chunk of the lives of many of us, and for that reason sectarianism certainly bothers me, and I have taken the trouble to know about it.
    They say ‘politics’ should be kept out of sport, but this is more than politics, it is tribal, as football is tribal. Hence why Lennon was at the heart of controversy in Scotland.
    Currently such troubles have more chance of returning than going away.
    The peace process should be preserved and extended, but it is very much under threat.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,230
    seth plum said:
     Sectarianism has led to over 3000 violent deaths during the modern troubles in Ireland, and those sentiments spill over to a degree in Scotland.
    Those troubles have dominated a huge chunk of the lives of many of us, and for that reason sectarianism certainly bothers me, and I have taken the trouble to know about it.
    They say ‘politics’ should be kept out of sport, but this is more than politics, it is tribal, as football is tribal. Hence why Lennon was at the heart of controversy in Scotland.
    Currently such troubles have more chance of returning than going away.
    The peace process should be preserved and extended, but it is very much under threat.
    Got nothing to do with who our new head coach/manager will be. As per usual derailing a thread when it’s not needed
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,290
    Is it Gerry Adams?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    shirty5 said:
    seth plum said:
     Sectarianism has led to over 3000 violent deaths during the modern troubles in Ireland, and those sentiments spill over to a degree in Scotland.
    Those troubles have dominated a huge chunk of the lives of many of us, and for that reason sectarianism certainly bothers me, and I have taken the trouble to know about it.
    They say ‘politics’ should be kept out of sport, but this is more than politics, it is tribal, as football is tribal. Hence why Lennon was at the heart of controversy in Scotland.
    Currently such troubles have more chance of returning than going away.
    The peace process should be preserved and extended, but it is very much under threat.
    Got nothing to do with who our new head coach/manager will be. As per usual derailing a thread when it’s not needed
    Spot on.

    No one cares that Beale is ex-Rangers
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    shirty5 said:
    seth plum said:
     Sectarianism has led to over 3000 violent deaths during the modern troubles in Ireland, and those sentiments spill over to a degree in Scotland.
    Those troubles have dominated a huge chunk of the lives of many of us, and for that reason sectarianism certainly bothers me, and I have taken the trouble to know about it.
    They say ‘politics’ should be kept out of sport, but this is more than politics, it is tribal, as football is tribal. Hence why Lennon was at the heart of controversy in Scotland.
    Currently such troubles have more chance of returning than going away.
    The peace process should be preserved and extended, but it is very much under threat.
    Got nothing to do with who our new head coach/manager will be. As per usual derailing a thread when it’s not needed
    Sectarianism has been mentioned prior to my post.
    How come you’re not complaining to those posters about derailing a thread first?
    Read my post which is about the broader background in which Lennon operated and explain which bits are inappropriate.

  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679
    And we're off.
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    edited May 2022
    Was informed that Beale will be a non starter as he was not happy that Thomas said he had contacted him in an interview when Adkins left. I can't recall this can anyone verify please? Hoping this is not the case and Beale is a possibility. Thomas has verified to me that he tried to contact Beale last time.
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/exclusive-thomas-sandgaard-gives-update-on-charlton-athletic-managerial-situation/ (November 2021)

  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    edited May 2022
    I don't want Neil Lennon as manager, but not because of the Celtic links. It is more to do with his underwhelming spell at Bolton. I quite fancy both Beale and Warburton and won't be put off because they are ex Rangers and an Ibrox faction sing about support for the UDA. 

    Both of the Glasgow clubs have sectarian factions who are horrible in their support,but that doesn't mean that individuals associated with either club cannot join Charlton. 

    Ironically as well as having some supporters who vocally support the Republican cause, Celtic is also the best supported team within the UK armed forces. Steve Gallen is a fan of the Hoops.

    Therefore we cannot make political points surrounding appointments in our club based on a faction within Celtic's support. 
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  • MattF said:
    Was informed that Beale will be a non starter as he was not happy that Thomas said he had contacted him in an interview when Adkins left. I can't recall this can anyone verify please? Hoping this is not the case and Beale is a possibility. Thomas has verified to me that he tried to contact Beale last time.
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/exclusive-thomas-sandgaard-gives-update-on-charlton-athletic-managerial-situation/

    Thanks for that. Very interesting. Great choice of words from Thomas as always. How anyone can take anything he says seriously is beyond me now. Clearly full of shit.
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,256
    edited May 2022
    Richard J said:
    I don't want Neil Lennon as manager, but not because of the Celtic links. It is more to do with his underwhelming spell at Bolton. I quite fancy both Beale and Warburton and won't be put off because an Ibrox faction sing about support for the UDA. 

    Both of the Glasgow clubs have sectarian factions who are horrible in their support,but that doesn't mean that individuals associated with either club cannot join Charlton. 

    Ironically as well as having some supporters who vocally support the Republican cause, Celtic is also the best supported team within the UK armed forces. Steve Gallen is a fan of the Hoops.

    Therefore we cannot make political points surrounding appointments in our club based on a faction within Celtic's support. 
    This. I'm not interested especially in Scottish football(I vaguely follow St Mirren) and especially the pair other Scottish fans refer to as the ugly sisters. Similarly religion. But I want a manager with a good track record. We need to aim high. Lennon isn't that person, and on that basis alone, I prefer someone else.

    And if people want to bring the old firm/religion background into it, why is Seth not allowed to comment?
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,458
    Please not Warbs.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited May 2022
    Richard J said:
    I don't want Neil Lennon as manager, but not because of the Celtic links. It is more to do with his underwhelming spell at Bolton. I quite fancy both Beale and Warburton and won't be put off because an Ibrox faction sing about support for the UDA. 

    Both of the Glasgow clubs have sectarian factions who are horrible in their support,but that doesn't mean that individuals associated with either club cannot join Charlton. 

    Ironically as well as having some supporters who vocally support the Republican cause, Celtic is also the best supported team within the UK armed forces. Steve Gallen is a fan of the Hoops.

    Therefore we cannot make political points surrounding appointments in our club based on a faction within Celtic's support. 
    When he was at Bolton weren't there loads of "other problems" such as the players not getting paid?

    I think you have to be careful looking at other people's track record without looking at the detail.  

    Who would have taken Richardson over Adkins based on CV?

    I don't want Lennon either BTW.
  • JaShea99 said:
    Please not Warbs.
    Have a look online at the interview he gave after there game yesterday and the comments from QPR fans and i didnt read one bad comment they all speak very highly of him his management and style of play and along side that seems like a very likeable man thats in the league above btw

    I think a few people need to have a think about where we are as a club and be more realistic
    Warburton would be a class appointment !
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    JaShea99 said:
    Please not Warbs.
    Who are you hoping for?
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,458
    Scoham said:
    JaShea99 said:
    Please not Warbs.
    Who are you hoping for?
    An alternative.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    I think what can be gleaned from this thread is whoever is appointed is unlikely to be universally welcomed 😂
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,458
    JaShea99 said:
    Please not Warbs.
    Have a look online at the interview he gave after there game yesterday and the comments from QPR fans and i didnt read one bad comment they all speak very highly of him his management and style of play and along side that seems like a very likeable man thats in the league above btw

    I think a few people need to have a think about where we are as a club and be more realistic
    Warburton would be a class appointment !
    I’m sure he does come across very well and I’m sure he is highly thought of. I’m also sure that a number of quotes from this thread will be retrospectively quoted and LOL’d in 6 months time with the benefit of hindsight. Someone who wasn’t a popular choice will be successful or vice versa. However, my gut feeling is that Warburton wouldn’t be a good appointment at this point.
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    Warburton out.