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76 was weeks - weeks - of over 30 degree heat - we have 2 days of extreme heat, and then it’s down in the 20’s againcabbles said:
This is missing the point though. I appreciate everyone sees things at different ends of the scale, but this is the death of the planet playing out in front of our eyes. Just because you had a pleasant summer playing football and cycling round on your bike in 76, doesn’t scratch the surface in terms of the misery we’re inflicting on the 6 year olds in years to come. It’s a bit mind boggling for me to think that anyone cannot be frightened by this. The pictures of the fires in Spain. That will be us in a few years time. Water will be at a scarcity, food prices will sky rocket and civil unrest may not be off the cards. If people think I am ott and are sounding extreme, then good. If people want to ignore it it’s their prerogative, but what you ignore/get worked up by today will be a pain in your backside a 100 times what you feel now in a few yearsLordflashheart said:
My late Step Mum was pregnant over the summer of 76 - she had a huge ‘bump’ - Dad and my Step Mum found out why, when she gave birth to identical twins in July - as a 6 year old boy, I loved it running around in the sun and having fun - didn’t stop playing football, cricket or riding my bikeStig said:
Very good video that, as we'd expect from Ros Atkins. I think the 1976 summer sticks in the mind for a couple of reasons: Firstly, because is was consistently hot for a long period, in my memory the whole of the six weeks holiday but that might be a claim too far. The other reason is because it coincided, or more likely caused, a plague of ladybirds. Imagine that as a kid, witnessing an actual plague. That's not something that's easily forgotten. No wonder for people of my generation, it's remained the reference point for high temperatures. That said, this is clearly not the same thing; it's hotter and it fits into a pattern of increasing hotter. Makes you wonder just what goes through someone's mind when they lol a post like that. I certainly hope for their sake it was just a case of fat finger syndrome.Glovepup said:
The news coverage of 2 DAYS of extreme heat is ridiculous
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It's going to happen far more frequently now and unless we take Climate Change more seriously, it is going to become the norm.Lordflashheart said:
76 was weeks - weeks - of over 30 degree heat - we have 2 days of extreme heat, and then it’s down in the 20’s againcabbles said:
This is missing the point though. I appreciate everyone sees things at different ends of the scale, but this is the death of the planet playing out in front of our eyes. Just because you had a pleasant summer playing football and cycling round on your bike in 76, doesn’t scratch the surface in terms of the misery we’re inflicting on the 6 year olds in years to come. It’s a bit mind boggling for me to think that anyone cannot be frightened by this. The pictures of the fires in Spain. That will be us in a few years time. Water will be at a scarcity, food prices will sky rocket and civil unrest may not be off the cards. If people think I am ott and are sounding extreme, then good. If people want to ignore it it’s their prerogative, but what you ignore/get worked up by today will be a pain in your backside a 100 times what you feel now in a few yearsLordflashheart said:
My late Step Mum was pregnant over the summer of 76 - she had a huge ‘bump’ - Dad and my Step Mum found out why, when she gave birth to identical twins in July - as a 6 year old boy, I loved it running around in the sun and having fun - didn’t stop playing football, cricket or riding my bikeStig said:
Very good video that, as we'd expect from Ros Atkins. I think the 1976 summer sticks in the mind for a couple of reasons: Firstly, because is was consistently hot for a long period, in my memory the whole of the six weeks holiday but that might be a claim too far. The other reason is because it coincided, or more likely caused, a plague of ladybirds. Imagine that as a kid, witnessing an actual plague. That's not something that's easily forgotten. No wonder for people of my generation, it's remained the reference point for high temperatures. That said, this is clearly not the same thing; it's hotter and it fits into a pattern of increasing hotter. Makes you wonder just what goes through someone's mind when they lol a post like that. I certainly hope for their sake it was just a case of fat finger syndrome.Glovepup said:
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I imagine your tinfoil hat served you well todayRedskin said:7 -
Within 10 years or possibly sooner we're going to see mass climate migration as some places just become too hot to handle for large parts of the Year. How people in India and across the Middle East cope with 50C I just don't understand1
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Our politicians need to take this seriously. Climate change is going to be the cause of enormous increases in migration. Unless our government do something urgently to address the situation, we're going to end up with millions of people walking to this country from France.BigRedEvil said:Within 10 years or possibly sooner we're going to see mass climate migration as some places just become too hot to handle for large parts of the Year. How people in India and across the Middle East cope with 50C I just don't understand0 -
They don't cope. The kids get 4 months summer holidays and they fly over here for the cooler weather.BigRedEvil said:Within 10 years or possibly sooner we're going to see mass climate migration as some places just become too hot to handle for large parts of the Year. How people in India and across the Middle East cope with 50C I just don't understand0 -
The expert lady on the video clip above said “ by the end of the century” which is 68 years we could be seeing 40c every four years. If true it will not be the norm for most on here.ME14addick said:
It's going to happen far more frequently now and unless we take Climate Change more seriously, it is going to become the norm.Lordflashheart said:
76 was weeks - weeks - of over 30 degree heat - we have 2 days of extreme heat, and then it’s down in the 20’s againcabbles said:
This is missing the point though. I appreciate everyone sees things at different ends of the scale, but this is the death of the planet playing out in front of our eyes. Just because you had a pleasant summer playing football and cycling round on your bike in 76, doesn’t scratch the surface in terms of the misery we’re inflicting on the 6 year olds in years to come. It’s a bit mind boggling for me to think that anyone cannot be frightened by this. The pictures of the fires in Spain. That will be us in a few years time. Water will be at a scarcity, food prices will sky rocket and civil unrest may not be off the cards. If people think I am ott and are sounding extreme, then good. If people want to ignore it it’s their prerogative, but what you ignore/get worked up by today will be a pain in your backside a 100 times what you feel now in a few yearsLordflashheart said:
My late Step Mum was pregnant over the summer of 76 - she had a huge ‘bump’ - Dad and my Step Mum found out why, when she gave birth to identical twins in July - as a 6 year old boy, I loved it running around in the sun and having fun - didn’t stop playing football, cricket or riding my bikeStig said:
Very good video that, as we'd expect from Ros Atkins. I think the 1976 summer sticks in the mind for a couple of reasons: Firstly, because is was consistently hot for a long period, in my memory the whole of the six weeks holiday but that might be a claim too far. The other reason is because it coincided, or more likely caused, a plague of ladybirds. Imagine that as a kid, witnessing an actual plague. That's not something that's easily forgotten. No wonder for people of my generation, it's remained the reference point for high temperatures. That said, this is clearly not the same thing; it's hotter and it fits into a pattern of increasing hotter. Makes you wonder just what goes through someone's mind when they lol a post like that. I certainly hope for their sake it was just a case of fat finger syndrome.Glovepup said:
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Wouldn't we notice (checks notes) 400 million Indians summering over here for four months though? 🤔O-Randy-Hunt said:
They don't cope. The kids get 4 months summer holidays and they fly over here for the cooler weather.BigRedEvil said:Within 10 years or possibly sooner we're going to see mass climate migration as some places just become too hot to handle for large parts of the Year. How people in India and across the Middle East cope with 50C I just don't understand
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You clearly didn’t watch the cricket over the last few weeksLeroy Ambrose said:
Wouldn't we notice (checks notes) 400 million Indians summering over here for four months though? 🤔O-Randy-Hunt said:
They don't cope. The kids get 4 months summer holidays and they fly over here for the cooler weather.BigRedEvil said:Within 10 years or possibly sooner we're going to see mass climate migration as some places just become too hot to handle for large parts of the Year. How people in India and across the Middle East cope with 50C I just don't understand
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Not strictly true, here in Dubai the school holidays are first week of July to first week of September so 2 months. The heat here is crazy but everywhere has air con, so unless you're outside for an extended period of time (which people rarely are) then it's fine. But then if you do want to go outside the vast majority of apartment buildings and developments have temperature controlled swimming pools.O-Randy-Hunt said:
They don't cope. The kids get 4 months summer holidays and they fly over here for the cooler weather.BigRedEvil said:Within 10 years or possibly sooner we're going to see mass climate migration as some places just become too hot to handle for large parts of the Year. How people in India and across the Middle East cope with 50C I just don't understand1 -
Chap I was speaking to from Saudi the other day may have been telling me a few porkies then unless it's different there.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Not strictly true, here in Dubai the school holidays are first week of July to first week of September so 2 months. The heat here is crazy but everywhere has air con, so unless you're outside for an extended period of time (which people rarely are) then it's fine. But then if you do want to go outside the vast majority of apartment buildings and developments have temperature controlled swimming pools.O-Randy-Hunt said:
They don't cope. The kids get 4 months summer holidays and they fly over here for the cooler weather.BigRedEvil said:Within 10 years or possibly sooner we're going to see mass climate migration as some places just become too hot to handle for large parts of the Year. How people in India and across the Middle East cope with 50C I just don't understand0 -
When I worked in Singapore it always made me laugh how people would carry jumpers and cardigans to put on when going indoors cause of the air conditioning.2
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Hi mate. Hope you get over this shortly. I'm still testing positive and it's been 10 days nowShootersHillGuru said:It’s not been too much fun recovering from Covid in this heat. I’m still testing positive and didn’t feel spectacular before the heat kicked in.
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It was like that when I was in Nashville of all places. The most uncomfortably hot I have ever been in my life - what felt like 95pc humidity and 100 degrees. The temperature drop when you walked into what felt like a freezing restaurant or shop actually made me feel a bit ill.MrOneLung said:When I worked in Singapore it always made me laugh how people would carry jumpers and cardigans to put on when going indoors cause of the air conditioning.1 -
Since when was the ECML single track?Glovepup said:0 -
It actually got up to 44.5, yes I know its not the actual air temp but bloody hell.0 -
I don’t know how many more graphs and charts that can be shared to highlight that the temperature of the planet has risen to irreversible levels. 1976 was an anomaly, regardless of whether or not it was weeks. What we have now is clear data and a pattern that shows we are gradually f*****Lordflashheart said:
76 was weeks - weeks - of over 30 degree heat - we have 2 days of extreme heat, and then it’s down in the 20’s againcabbles said:
This is missing the point though. I appreciate everyone sees things at different ends of the scale, but this is the death of the planet playing out in front of our eyes. Just because you had a pleasant summer playing football and cycling round on your bike in 76, doesn’t scratch the surface in terms of the misery we’re inflicting on the 6 year olds in years to come. It’s a bit mind boggling for me to think that anyone cannot be frightened by this. The pictures of the fires in Spain. That will be us in a few years time. Water will be at a scarcity, food prices will sky rocket and civil unrest may not be off the cards. If people think I am ott and are sounding extreme, then good. If people want to ignore it it’s their prerogative, but what you ignore/get worked up by today will be a pain in your backside a 100 times what you feel now in a few yearsLordflashheart said:
My late Step Mum was pregnant over the summer of 76 - she had a huge ‘bump’ - Dad and my Step Mum found out why, when she gave birth to identical twins in July - as a 6 year old boy, I loved it running around in the sun and having fun - didn’t stop playing football, cricket or riding my bikeStig said:
Very good video that, as we'd expect from Ros Atkins. I think the 1976 summer sticks in the mind for a couple of reasons: Firstly, because is was consistently hot for a long period, in my memory the whole of the six weeks holiday but that might be a claim too far. The other reason is because it coincided, or more likely caused, a plague of ladybirds. Imagine that as a kid, witnessing an actual plague. That's not something that's easily forgotten. No wonder for people of my generation, it's remained the reference point for high temperatures. That said, this is clearly not the same thing; it's hotter and it fits into a pattern of increasing hotter. Makes you wonder just what goes through someone's mind when they lol a post like that. I certainly hope for their sake it was just a case of fat finger syndrome.Glovepup said:
The news coverage of 2 DAYS of extreme heat is ridiculous1 - Sponsored links:
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This was the thinking a few years ago but us really not the science anymore.BrentfordAddick said:It's not the death of the planet. The planet will be fine. It may be the death of a lot of us, mostly in places a long way away.
The planet will be fine.
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If nothing else the world is far too interconnected we rely on so many of these countries for our food. We will have serious civil unrest if not a full societal breakdown. People will be killing over water - in this country. Life as we know it will be over.
Even if it doesn't cause mass deaths in this country (the science says it will) does it suddenly became okay that the mass deaths happen in Africa and Asia? Is it okay if whole continents become uninhabitable?
The timescales on this are much shorter than people are assuming as well. Its the exponential growth of all of this. We are already 30-50 years ahead of where they thought we would be even 5-10 years ago. Thats only gonna get bigger.
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Again memory does not equal fact. The data says that 76 was weeks and weeks of high 20s with regular days of low 30s thrown in. It only very occasionally got to 35.Lordflashheart said:
76 was weeks - weeks - of over 30 degree heat - we have 2 days of extreme heat, and then it’s down in the 20’s againcabbles said:
This is missing the point though. I appreciate everyone sees things at different ends of the scale, but this is the death of the planet playing out in front of our eyes. Just because you had a pleasant summer playing football and cycling round on your bike in 76, doesn’t scratch the surface in terms of the misery we’re inflicting on the 6 year olds in years to come. It’s a bit mind boggling for me to think that anyone cannot be frightened by this. The pictures of the fires in Spain. That will be us in a few years time. Water will be at a scarcity, food prices will sky rocket and civil unrest may not be off the cards. If people think I am ott and are sounding extreme, then good. If people want to ignore it it’s their prerogative, but what you ignore/get worked up by today will be a pain in your backside a 100 times what you feel now in a few yearsLordflashheart said:
My late Step Mum was pregnant over the summer of 76 - she had a huge ‘bump’ - Dad and my Step Mum found out why, when she gave birth to identical twins in July - as a 6 year old boy, I loved it running around in the sun and having fun - didn’t stop playing football, cricket or riding my bikeStig said:
Very good video that, as we'd expect from Ros Atkins. I think the 1976 summer sticks in the mind for a couple of reasons: Firstly, because is was consistently hot for a long period, in my memory the whole of the six weeks holiday but that might be a claim too far. The other reason is because it coincided, or more likely caused, a plague of ladybirds. Imagine that as a kid, witnessing an actual plague. That's not something that's easily forgotten. No wonder for people of my generation, it's remained the reference point for high temperatures. That said, this is clearly not the same thing; it's hotter and it fits into a pattern of increasing hotter. Makes you wonder just what goes through someone's mind when they lol a post like that. I certainly hope for their sake it was just a case of fat finger syndrome.Glovepup said:
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It's the frequency of these things that's the worry. As before there have been as many days over 35 in the UK in the last 20 years as there were innthe preceeding 100 years.1
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It’s quite obvious that some people (worryingly quite a lot actually) just have no interest in wanting to properly acknowledge that there is a problem.
Its in human nature to not like to be told what to do, or to be ‘educated’ on what is going to happen. Humans have egos and those things usually get in the way of progress more often than not.
For those of that mindset - don’t worry, just keep pretending that it’s a problem for another day and the can will just be kicked down the road. It’ll be your children or grandchildren who inevitably have to suffer.The result of that mindset shared across way too many people on this planet could end up being the single biggest mistake in the history of human civilisation.I’m not really interested in getting into the whole boomer/snowflake thing, because it doesn’t really solve anything. But for those who think this is all just a bit of scaremongering - please go and review the research conducted by people ten times smarter than the average joe bloggs.You wouldn’t ignore the science if you went to a doctor and they gave you a life threatening diagnosis, would you?5 -
Yes, Climate Change is real and does anyone really believe that something that has been created by us will now be reversed by us. Something that has been driven by greed, arrogance and power. I can’t see it. We are destroying our own planet.
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So how many found refuge in air-conditioned buildings today? I did - had to go to a meeting in central London. But spare a thought for the incredible energy use and damage to the planet as a result. We are not v good at joined-up, long-term planning are we?4
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I can assure you that October 23rd 1976 was a shit day weather wise.
My Grandad considered the wedding photographer to be taking far too long and far too many photos - and told him so. Something on the lines of, "Come on Ginger, people are freezing out here and want to get in for a warm up and a drink". He obviously lacked the charm and grace of us young boomers.
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Funeral yesterday in Axbridge so spent most of the day in an air conditioned car, plus an hour in an air conditioned crematorium and an hour in the back room of an old stone pub, so kept out of it. Was meant to have today off too, so I could keep an eye on the dogs and turn air con on or off as and when but, because my firm can't organise a piss up in a brewery, I have to go in to do another day's "mandatory" training despite being available for it for the last 2 weeks when it was scheduled for and even cancelling a trip to France / rearranging a hospital appointments for.0
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The incredible energy source used in AC and other cooling devices are being addressed by baby boomers like me (who apparently have no idea or don’t acknowledge climate change), who are developing new systems including no (or very little) natural energy ac, but this mean that the building industry have to redevelop the designs of building to allow for this. In my specialist field I have been fighting for over 40 years trying to convince the climate change lobby that there ridiculous ideas are wrong, that by forcing my industry to change refrigerant because of damage to the ozone layer initially and then because of carbon emissions. But what’s the point both the EU and British government went ahead brought in a very bad first try, everybody realised it these refrigerants were useless, and absorbed more power and thus created yet more carbon, this happened 2 or 3 more times. The simple answer was to stop the leaks, but no let’s change all the refrigeration plants and not put into the calculations the additional energy required to produce the new plants which is considerable, also let forget about the fact that these refrigerants also use more energy.Weegie Addick said:So how many found refuge in air-conditioned buildings today? I did - had to go to a meeting in central London. But spare a thought for the incredible energy use and damage to the planet as a result. We are not v good at joined-up, long-term planning are we?
Now we have all the people saying let’s use natural refrigerants, so what do the idiot supermarket do, the go down the Co2 route, absolutely scandalous, and a ridiculous decision, can you capture co2 from the atmosphere and reuse it of course not, so people who champion this forget to add in the production energy of the co2. Now any sensible person would have gone for ammonia, but no the GWP is zero, ozone depletion is zero, it is explosive but only in very rare conditions, oh and it smells, it’s by far the best refrigerant every used and has a proven track record of over 150 years of refrigeration. So the government and EU pass laws which makes its virtually impossible to install and a comparative costs to Co2 (forgot to say Co2 uses more energy / kw of cooling so more carbon goes to the atmosphere) or these other crap new refrigerants.
So if this is happening in my industry that they reckon uses 10% of the Uk power consumption, what is it like in other industries? As I said myself and other baby boomers who apparently are in denial over climate have been fighting so called ‘do gooders’ for 40 years. So to summaries this rather long rant, the do-gooders have won, they have achieved there aims, they have saved the planet, by getting an industry to rip out millions of tons of refrigerant from perfectly good plants, sending it to South Africa and China in ships so they could put in there leaking plants where it’s now escaped into the atmosphere. We then had to initially convert and then replace all these plants with new plants, and produce all the new equipment which used trillions of kw of energy and deposit goodness know how millions of tons of co2 into the atmosphere. What have we achieved, oh yes we are now installing plants that use more energy than 40 years ago.Well this baby boomer is pleased to his time of designing energy efficient refrigeration plants is over, yes all you ‘experts’ who know how to say our planets have, won, you have defeated me and my generation, I wish you luck, but just remember that the baby boomer generation, fought your corner and the do gooders ignored our warnings and advice.
Sorry, this has been a long rant on an extremely complex subject, which I’ve only scrapped the surface on, but certain posters really have annoyed me with there blinkered view and the rather insulating generalisations. I should declare that I have made a lot of money from these do gooders so thank you.2 -
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