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"Once in a generation" temperatures happening two years running should tell us something!8
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I was in Athens last week and it was brutal (death was coming for me at the Parthenon). In Rhodes now where it’s slightly better. Think it’s even worse in parts of Spain and Italy.0
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One of the worst things I’ve read is the release of methane in the arctic as temperatures get warmer. We can and we must do all we can to reduce carbon emissions, but as a result of our neglect, this is a direct result that we’re pretty powerless to do anything about. I don’t know if anyone has read anymore on the subject, but it seems that once it gets into the atmosphere, there’s no stopping it.Next UN climate conference (for what it’s worth), is Nov/Dec this year in Dubai, and then COP 2024 is in Aus next year. I’m typing this in the futile hope the last few years have hit home. I highly doubt it in relation to action needed/action taken3
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Helps with your question.cabbles said:One of the worst things I’ve read is the release of methane in the arctic as temperatures get warmer. We can and we must do all we can to reduce carbon emissions, but as a result of our neglect, this is a direct result that we’re pretty powerless to do anything about. I don’t know if anyone has read anymore on the subject, but it seems that once it gets into the atmosphere, there’s no stopping it.Next UN climate conference (for what it’s worth), is Nov/Dec this year in Dubai, and then COP 2024 is in Aus next year. I’m typing this in the futile hope the last few years have hit home. I highly doubt it in relation to action needed/action taken
How long do greenhouse gases stay in the air? | Environment | The Guardian
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Genuinely interested in the specific actions we must all take. I think many of us do stuff (recycling, reduced food waste, less meat in the diet etc etc.) but is that enough?cabbles said:One of the worst things I’ve read is the release of methane in the arctic as temperatures get warmer. We can and we must do all we can to reduce carbon emissions, but as a result of our neglect, this is a direct result that we’re pretty powerless to do anything about. I don’t know if anyone has read anymore on the subject, but it seems that once it gets into the atmosphere, there’s no stopping it.Next UN climate conference (for what it’s worth), is Nov/Dec this year in Dubai, and then COP 2024 is in Aus next year. I’m typing this in the futile hope the last few years have hit home. I highly doubt it in relation to action needed/action taken
I'd suggest some would advocate a ban things that many of us do - fly on holiday / on business, drive diesel cars, eat meat etc etc.
I'm not looking to respond and debate, but worth understanding what others that are clearly passionate about this think in terms of specific actions.0 -
Can we not just merge this with the JSO thread?0
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Agree. We don't want to underplay the issue, but you're right. Having a keen interest in the subject, I'm never sure where to post as there are at least three related threads now, one of which is in the HoC area.MrOneLung said:Can we not just merge this with the JSO thread?
I think this article is relevant here, I hope.
Media reaction: Extreme weather hits world’s seven continents in July 2023 - Carbon Brief
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34 in Rimini... sea breeze making it very bearable.0
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Corfu is tad too hot for me atm. Some very red folk around!0
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It’s tough, that’s for sure. Individually if we all do what we can then that’s a start, but when I said that I was speaking more as a collective. That’s nigh on impossible without some sort of collective approach that seems so far off given political and national interests. We’re talking some sort of revolutionary way of the human race changing its thinking.SporadicAddick said:
Genuinely interested in the specific actions we must all take. I think many of us do stuff (recycling, reduced food waste, less meat in the diet etc etc.) but is that enough?cabbles said:One of the worst things I’ve read is the release of methane in the arctic as temperatures get warmer. We can and we must do all we can to reduce carbon emissions, but as a result of our neglect, this is a direct result that we’re pretty powerless to do anything about. I don’t know if anyone has read anymore on the subject, but it seems that once it gets into the atmosphere, there’s no stopping it.Next UN climate conference (for what it’s worth), is Nov/Dec this year in Dubai, and then COP 2024 is in Aus next year. I’m typing this in the futile hope the last few years have hit home. I highly doubt it in relation to action needed/action taken
I'd suggest some would advocate a ban things that many of us do - fly on holiday / on business, drive diesel cars, eat meat etc etc.
I'm not looking to respond and debate, but worth understanding what others that are clearly passionate about this think in terms of specific actions.I would never want to dictate to people what they can and can’t do. I mean, I own a car that uses unleaded petrol. I am very interested in exchanging it for an electric, but that would mean finding at least 3k in part exchange. I can limit my flying, but then I have a work trip to Vancouver next month. Holidays. Do I never leave this country again to go abroad? If I’m serious about doing my bit then yes, but how many people would ever do that. It’s a complete mess2 - Sponsored links:
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Done the Parthenon this time last year.se9addick said:I was in Athens last week and it was brutal (death was coming for me at the Parthenon). In Rhodes now where it’s slightly better. Think it’s even worse in parts of Spain and Italy.
We was up the top by 10am and that was bad enough.
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Went to the acropolis about 20 years ago and it was boiling when I was there. Stupid place to put it imo.9
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The maintenance ain't much better.Karim_myBagheri said:Went to the acropolis about 20 years ago and it was boiling when I was there. Stupid place to put it imo.
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If you did you’d have lost your marbles.blackpool72 said:
The maintenance ain't much better.Karim_myBagheri said:Went to the acropolis about 20 years ago and it was boiling when I was there. Stupid place to put it imo.
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I spent a day in Death Valley as part of a west coast tour some years ago.I have never experienced anything like it,even coming out of the restaurant at 11pm it was over 100 f.If it has got hotter there now as reported it must be unbearable.0
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Saturday in Death Valley. And that's with a bit of cloud cover. 56.7 is the hottest ever recorded on Earth. We'll break that in the next 5 years, easy
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can we move day 4 of the test over there? we might get a result. The boundary might be a bit long thoughsam3110 said:Saturday in Death Valley. And that's with a bit of cloud cover. 56.7 is the hottest ever recorded on Earth. We'll break that in the next 5 years, easy1 -
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It's a good questionSporadicAddick said:
Genuinely interested in the specific actions we must all take. I think many of us do stuff (recycling, reduced food waste, less meat in the diet etc etc.) but is that enough?cabbles said:One of the worst things I’ve read is the release of methane in the arctic as temperatures get warmer. We can and we must do all we can to reduce carbon emissions, but as a result of our neglect, this is a direct result that we’re pretty powerless to do anything about. I don’t know if anyone has read anymore on the subject, but it seems that once it gets into the atmosphere, there’s no stopping it.Next UN climate conference (for what it’s worth), is Nov/Dec this year in Dubai, and then COP 2024 is in Aus next year. I’m typing this in the futile hope the last few years have hit home. I highly doubt it in relation to action needed/action taken
I'd suggest some would advocate a ban things that many of us do - fly on holiday / on business, drive diesel cars, eat meat etc etc.
I'm not looking to respond and debate, but worth understanding what others that are clearly passionate about this think in terms of specific actions.
As ever there is the issue of what individuals can choose to do vs what governments legislate for
Things like getting solar roof tiles onto all properties (surely a no brainer) and using public transport over private vehicles are often a hard choice for people to make due to cost/convenience etc. Getting those ideas actioned would require government interventions in the form of subsidies and taxes etc.
The idea that it is too expensive to save humanity is a ludicrous concept.
In reality, I believe we need much more radical changes than the examples i have given above, many of which wouldn't be popular with people habituated to a frenzy of consumption and historical excess. Too hung over to dig right into that now, though
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We recently had solar panels installed via the KCC Solar Together scheme. They reckon it gets you a one third reduction in price.Siv_in_Norfolk said:
It's a good questionSporadicAddick said:
Genuinely interested in the specific actions we must all take. I think many of us do stuff (recycling, reduced food waste, less meat in the diet etc etc.) but is that enough?cabbles said:One of the worst things I’ve read is the release of methane in the arctic as temperatures get warmer. We can and we must do all we can to reduce carbon emissions, but as a result of our neglect, this is a direct result that we’re pretty powerless to do anything about. I don’t know if anyone has read anymore on the subject, but it seems that once it gets into the atmosphere, there’s no stopping it.Next UN climate conference (for what it’s worth), is Nov/Dec this year in Dubai, and then COP 2024 is in Aus next year. I’m typing this in the futile hope the last few years have hit home. I highly doubt it in relation to action needed/action taken
I'd suggest some would advocate a ban things that many of us do - fly on holiday / on business, drive diesel cars, eat meat etc etc.
I'm not looking to respond and debate, but worth understanding what others that are clearly passionate about this think in terms of specific actions.
As ever there is the issue of what individuals can choose to do vs what governments legislate for
Things like getting solar roof tiles onto all properties (surely a no brainer) and using public transport over private vehicles are often a hard choice for people to make due to cost/convenience etc. Getting those ideas actioned would require government interventions in the form of subsidies and taxes etc.
The idea that it is too expensive to save humanity is a ludicrous concept.
In reality, I believe we need much more radical changes than the examples i have given above, many of which wouldn't be popular with people habituated to a frenzy of consumption and historical excess. Too hung over to dig right into that now, though0 - Sponsored links:
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Needs to be made a standard requirement for newly constructed buildings asap
How much did it cost you, then? How long shouod it take to pay for itself?1 -
I hear that KC and the Sunshine Band are proponents of solar panels tooHex said:
We recently had solar panels installed via the KCC Solar Together scheme. They reckon it gets you a one third reduction in price.Siv_in_Norfolk said:
It's a good questionSporadicAddick said:
Genuinely interested in the specific actions we must all take. I think many of us do stuff (recycling, reduced food waste, less meat in the diet etc etc.) but is that enough?cabbles said:One of the worst things I’ve read is the release of methane in the arctic as temperatures get warmer. We can and we must do all we can to reduce carbon emissions, but as a result of our neglect, this is a direct result that we’re pretty powerless to do anything about. I don’t know if anyone has read anymore on the subject, but it seems that once it gets into the atmosphere, there’s no stopping it.Next UN climate conference (for what it’s worth), is Nov/Dec this year in Dubai, and then COP 2024 is in Aus next year. I’m typing this in the futile hope the last few years have hit home. I highly doubt it in relation to action needed/action taken
I'd suggest some would advocate a ban things that many of us do - fly on holiday / on business, drive diesel cars, eat meat etc etc.
I'm not looking to respond and debate, but worth understanding what others that are clearly passionate about this think in terms of specific actions.
As ever there is the issue of what individuals can choose to do vs what governments legislate for
Things like getting solar roof tiles onto all properties (surely a no brainer) and using public transport over private vehicles are often a hard choice for people to make due to cost/convenience etc. Getting those ideas actioned would require government interventions in the form of subsidies and taxes etc.
The idea that it is too expensive to save humanity is a ludicrous concept.
In reality, I believe we need much more radical changes than the examples i have given above, many of which wouldn't be popular with people habituated to a frenzy of consumption and historical excess. Too hung over to dig right into that now, though
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Give it up.0
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Rick Astley would neverR0TW said:Give it up.2 -
Highly recommend this book:SporadicAddick said:
Genuinely interested in the specific actions we must all take. I think many of us do stuff (recycling, reduced food waste, less meat in the diet etc etc.) but is that enough?cabbles said:One of the worst things I’ve read is the release of methane in the arctic as temperatures get warmer. We can and we must do all we can to reduce carbon emissions, but as a result of our neglect, this is a direct result that we’re pretty powerless to do anything about. I don’t know if anyone has read anymore on the subject, but it seems that once it gets into the atmosphere, there’s no stopping it.Next UN climate conference (for what it’s worth), is Nov/Dec this year in Dubai, and then COP 2024 is in Aus next year. I’m typing this in the futile hope the last few years have hit home. I highly doubt it in relation to action needed/action taken
I'd suggest some would advocate a ban things that many of us do - fly on holiday / on business, drive diesel cars, eat meat etc etc.
I'm not looking to respond and debate, but worth understanding what others that are clearly passionate about this think in terms of specific actions.https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/SOS/DNabDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0SOSWhat You Can Do to Reduce Climate Change – Simple Actions that Make a Difference
Incredibly easy to read and well written. Covers micro action that we as individuals can take and shows the impact they can have on the bigger picture. Talks about travel, consumer decisions, voting, household swaps. Everything. But uses science and analysis to show that these small actions can have a large impact on the bigger picture.1 -
You're not wrong about governments and international changes being needed as well as large corporation's getting onboard. But (and the book I recommended above covers this) but what people do in their small decisions will feed through to governments and corporations. If its a factor that you think about in your purchasing decisions - is this sustainably sourced, is it from recycled materials, how much waste will this produce etc. then the corporations will follow where the demand goes. If its a factor in your voting decisions the political parties policies will follow the opinion.Siv_in_Norfolk said:
It's a good questionSporadicAddick said:
Genuinely interested in the specific actions we must all take. I think many of us do stuff (recycling, reduced food waste, less meat in the diet etc etc.) but is that enough?cabbles said:One of the worst things I’ve read is the release of methane in the arctic as temperatures get warmer. We can and we must do all we can to reduce carbon emissions, but as a result of our neglect, this is a direct result that we’re pretty powerless to do anything about. I don’t know if anyone has read anymore on the subject, but it seems that once it gets into the atmosphere, there’s no stopping it.Next UN climate conference (for what it’s worth), is Nov/Dec this year in Dubai, and then COP 2024 is in Aus next year. I’m typing this in the futile hope the last few years have hit home. I highly doubt it in relation to action needed/action taken
I'd suggest some would advocate a ban things that many of us do - fly on holiday / on business, drive diesel cars, eat meat etc etc.
I'm not looking to respond and debate, but worth understanding what others that are clearly passionate about this think in terms of specific actions.
As ever there is the issue of what individuals can choose to do vs what governments legislate for
Things like getting solar roof tiles onto all properties (surely a no brainer) and using public transport over private vehicles are often a hard choice for people to make due to cost/convenience etc. Getting those ideas actioned would require government interventions in the form of subsidies and taxes etc.
The idea that it is too expensive to save humanity is a ludicrous concept.
In reality, I believe we need much more radical changes than the examples i have given above, many of which wouldn't be popular with people habituated to a frenzy of consumption and historical excess. Too hung over to dig right into that now, though
We cant sit and wait for them to lead the way we need to show them where we want them to go.4 -
It cost £10k for 14 panels plus 3.2kW battery. We moved recently so have no idea on when it will have paid for itself. You'd need a crystal ball on energy prices in any case. At my age we have done it for the planet but it will help to charge our EV when we get one next year.Siv_in_Norfolk said:Needs to be made a standard requirement for newly constructed buildings asap
How much did it cost you, then? How long shouod it take to pay for itself?0 -
recently up here in sunny Lincs it's been almost cold and autumnal enough to justify putting on the heating0
