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    25c to 30c in August is called summer not a heatwave to panic about.
    It’s the drought, not the heat. Well, both in combination. 
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    Are we still doing 1976 comparisons? 
    Yep it was 46 years ago, wasn't as warm or dry for anything like as long but we did get a prolonged hosepipe & sprinkler ban
    Petrol was 17p/l
    Beer was 33p/pint
    Milk was 9p/pint


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    JamesSeed said:
    25c to 30c in August is called summer not a heatwave to panic about.
    It’s the drought, not the heat. Well, both in combination. 
    two days ago my rain barrel/water butt was nigh on empty .. the sky has been cloudless all week, everyone has been praying for rain, the weather forecasts make no mention of rain .. BUT today my water butt is full .. the ground is dry and so is the garden soil .. there must have been a terrific overnight rainfall and nobody here seems to have noticed.  OR .. am I living in a parallel universe where rain falls unnoticed and the garde4ns bloom forever ? .. answers on a postcard please
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    Billy_Mix said:

    Are we still doing 1976 comparisons? 
    Yep it was 46 years ago, wasn't as warm or dry for anything like as long but we did get a prolonged hosepipe & sprinkler ban
    Petrol was 17p/l
    Beer was 33p/pint
    Milk was 9p/pint


    Denis Howell was also appointed 'Minister for Drought', 
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    And less than a week after his appointment (3 days I think) it started to pour down and continued to rain heavily for two months.

    Anyway , 'Yes, Britain had a heatwave in 1976. No, it was nothing like the crisis we’re in now'.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/19/britain-heatwave-1976-crisis-summer-heat
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    And less than a week after his appointment (3 days I think) it started to pour down and continued to rain heavily for two months.

    Anyway , 'Yes, Britain had a heatwave in 1976. No, it was nothing like the crisis we’re in now'.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/19/britain-heatwave-1976-crisis-summer-heat
    Howell was a top football referee before he learnt all about rain dancing
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    South East Water have said they have reduced leaks by 15% and their target is to halve leaks by 2050, that is unacceptable.  All profits should be ploughed back into dealing with leaks, it is crazy that water companies are allowed to get away with so much. 
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    edited August 2022
    Seems now very prescient of Queen to sing this in 1985:
    https://deezer.page.link/Xsp5K9GeCm8ttiQA9


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    Billy_Mix said:
    Inconvenient/unpopular observation: hosepipe and sprinkler bans occurred every few years under the nationalised water company - can you remember when you last had one imposed?
    There is never any justification for hosing water on our gardens or using sprinklers.
    A watering can on a dry day on a few plants to keep them looking nice maybe but witlessly pumping gallons of fresh clean drinking water on your lawn cos you think it should be green is just selfish and irresponsible.  Chuck used washing up water on the garden if you're that bothered, get water butts for your gutter downpipes.  Collecting the outflow from your bath/shower is no great hardship either.
    "But we've got a meter, we pay for it all, we can do what we like with it..." bleat bleat self-obsessed whine - See how well that goes down when you're queuing up with your neighbours at a stand pipe in a couple of weeks

    There are 23 Million Gardens in the UK. According to the RHS, "Private garden space in Britain cover[s] about 728,900 hectares". That's not far short of the combined area of Kent and Essex. These gardens are not only an essential resource for relaxation and recreation and recuperation for the UK population, they are also fantastically important for wildlife. Certain bird species have over 50 percent of their breeding grounds in domestic gardens. Those birds are dependent on insects which are in turn dependent on vegetation. 3 billion litres are leaked per day across England and Wales. That would be enough to soak each and every UK garden with 130 litres every day. I'm not saying that we could stop all that, and of course one the great things about water is that it will recycle itself eventually so it's not gone for good. Nevertheless the blasé attitude that we accept regarding water preservation has a seriously detrimental effect on one of our most precious resources - garden space. There is never any justification for allowing our national infrastructure to get into the sort of mess where people imagine it is acceptable to stop others hosing water on our gardens or using sprinklers.

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    On one of the hottest weekends when families will be flocking to the coast, they have been advised not to swim in the sea at Folkestone as Southern Water has allowed a discharge of raw sewage into the sea 700 metres offshore. 

    This is absolutely unacceptable, it is time that water companies are taken into public ownership and that all profits are ploughed back into upgrading the systems so that this cannot happen.

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/no-swim-warning-after-sewage-leak-271853/
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    Well said Stig.
    Coming from the industry (garden centres) a hosepipe ban has such a detrimental effect on sales. People will be reluctant to buy plants they feel they can’t water. Crops of new plants grown won’t now sell, so sad 😞 
    Gardening is so important for many people for their physical and mental health.
    Hopefully the water companies can start managing their leaks better allowing us all to be able to enjoy our own small parts of England’s green and pleasant lands.
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    You are allowed to use your hose on new plants and newly laid turf even during a hosepipe ban. 
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    MrOneLung said:
    You are allowed to use your hose on new plants and newly laid turf even during a hosepipe ban. 
    From SE Water website:

    You may use a hosepipe to water newly laid turf in domestic gardens for 28 days after planting/laying in order to help them establish. In order to do so you must be able to provide evidence of that date on which the gardening work was completed. Failure to do so and watering for longer than 28 days will be considered a breach of the conditions of the temporary use ban. However we would ask if possible to wait for cooler weather to lay new turf when we expect to see demand for water reduce. 
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    Spent yesterday on the beach, in and out of the sea (lovely) off to Camden Town today....not so lovely.
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    Spent yesterday on the beach, in and out of the sea (lovely) off to Camden Town today....not so lovely.
    What beach was you on yesterday then @HastingsRed mate?
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    who on earth would swim in the sea at Folkestone? Place is a khazi
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    who on earth would swim in the sea at Folkestone? Place is a khazi
    Think that's why most opt for a dinghy down those shores...
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    Off_it said:
    On one of the hottest weekends when families will be flocking to the coast, they have been advised not to swim in the sea at Folkestone as Southern Water has allowed a discharge of raw sewage into the sea 700 metres offshore. 

    This is absolutely unacceptable, it is time that water companies are taken into public ownership and that all profits are ploughed back into upgrading the systems so that this cannot happen.

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/folkestone/news/no-swim-warning-after-sewage-leak-271853/
    Would public ownership have prevented the leak then?
    More money could be spent on infrastructure if the profit element were taken out. 
    Yes. But would that have stopped the leak? If a pump stops working then it stops working.
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    Gribbo said:
    Spent yesterday on the beach, in and out of the sea (lovely) off to Camden Town today....not so lovely.
    What beach was you on yesterday then @HastingsRed mate?
    Pett Level.
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    who on earth would swim in the sea at Folkestone? Place is a khazi
    Not having that. It’s glorious. Swam in there 2 mornings in a row in July. Mermaid beach. Plenty of people doing the same. 
    Sunny Sands is a fantastic beach, the only problem is that it disappears at high tide. The water is a lot cleaner than it used to be.
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    who on earth would swim in the sea at Folkestone? Place is a khazi

    I remember my dog went in the sea around there once - and even he was pissing out his arse the next day so god knows what it would do to a human.
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    MrOneLung said:
    You are allowed to use your hose on new plants and newly laid turf even during a hosepipe ban. 
    That is good to know.
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    who on earth would swim in the sea at Folkestone? Place is a khazi
    Not having that. It’s glorious. Swam in there 2 mornings in a row in July. Mermaid beach. Plenty of people doing the same. 
    Did you see any floaters when you were in there, Suze?
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