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Lineker and Attenborough
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BR7_addick said:1
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I compared the current day BBC with TASS elsewhere, but this shouldn’t be a surprise when they have a former Conservative Party Director of Communications, who helped to also found GB News, on the Board where he is highly influential in shaping the output.They have lost any semblance of impartiality over the last decade.1
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Players and managers now not doing interviews with MOTD at least today.4
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The_Organiser said:IanJRO said:palarsehater said:To label the bbc right wing is definately todays funnyJust like the govt having a firmer approach to illegal immigration now. Go back to the early Blair years when the govt openly implemented what was effectively an open door policy on immigration which a lot of people also felt was a bad move.
The concerns of some of the general public are not centred purely on current numbers we may or may not be taking, it’s the compounded impact of years of immigration targeting a multicultural society that really has not and does not work in a lot of deprived areas. It’s the impact of that on local infrastructure and public services. Now immigration is not the only factor, it’s years of underfunding too, of course. But when joe bloggs can never get a doctors appointment and when they do the room is full off people clearly not originally from these shores, the perception becomes ingrained in the eyes of those people.49 -
MrOneLung said:BR7_addick said:
Directors set the strategy and core objectives and vision mission of any business whether it be profit or NFP, business studies lesson 1.6 -
When will politicians stop underestimating the power of football and its community? Fools.9
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Just to add, what made me smile was Tory MP's saying that people involved with football should not comment on political events.....just as they said with Marcus Rashford...then of course they decided that as he (Rashford) had the moral high ground and public support they 'agreed with him'. Then on Thursday (I think) Penney Mordunt made a speech at the despatch box.....using....football analogies...'pot kettle black'?3
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The Red Robin said:Football Focus and Final Score may be pulled today. Not sure how this fits in with the BBC’s remit.*based on my recollection of the last time I watched Football Focus, which I guess was some time in 2002.1
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Premier League clubs won't be doing any televised post-match interviews with MOTD today1
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It's interesting to see that the BBC has chosen to shut down Gary Lineker's highlighting of the the Government's use of language designed to inflame hatred of migrants, at the same time that they are trying to side-line David Attenborough's comments about Climate Change and the destruction of habitats.
It is Climate Change and the destruction of so many habitats across the world that is a big driver of migration. People have to move away from areas that can no longer support them and they become migrants. Tensions between countries as they compete for scarce resources also creates migrants.
It is a political subject, but it is good to have it discussed on the wider forum, with people who do not normally engage on the HoC threads.19 - Sponsored links:
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The Red Robin said:When will politicians stop underestimating the power of football and its community? Fools.That isn’t a dig at former players by the way, but there wasn’t the difference in pay parity between them and fans in days gone by and I think therefore understandable (just look at some of the Q&As in old programmes to see that).2
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PragueAddick said:valleynick66 said:SELR_addicks said:People defending the BBC decision on Linekar but will ignore Alan Sugar or Andrew Neil preaching right wing doctrine shows how partisan the BBC has become.Then he went off to GB News if you recall, as Chairman, but he quickly through his toys out of the pram when he discovered that it was basically a low-rent Fox. Now he’s on C4. And curiously, I don’t recall him popping up on my feed since he left Geebees.In this instance we don’t know what Linekar was previously told to do / discussed what was expected / what he said he would do vis a vis social media - if anything.0
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Mametz said:swordfish said:Mametz said:Gribbo said:The Red Robin said:AllHailTheHen said:The thing about this is Lineker has never hidden his political beliefs before and has regularly tweeted about them. Clearly the Nazi connotations of this latest one are deemed a step too far for those up the hierarchy.
Personally find him the worst thing on MOTD but this is all way OTT. Plus side for Lineker is he can spend a night off looking at himself in the mirror.0 -
Airman Brown said:The_Organiser said:IanJRO said:palarsehater said:To label the bbc right wing is definately todays funnyJust like the govt having a firmer approach to illegal immigration now. Go back to the early Blair years when the govt openly implemented what was effectively an open door policy on immigration which a lot of people also felt was a bad move.
The concerns of some of the general public are not centred purely on current numbers we may or may not be taking, it’s the compounded impact of years of immigration targeting a multicultural society that really has not and does not work in a lot of deprived areas. It’s the impact of that on local infrastructure and public services. Now immigration is not the only factor, it’s years of underfunding too, of course. But when joe bloggs can never get a doctors appointment and when they do the room is full off people clearly not originally from these shores, the perception becomes ingrained in the eyes of those people.
I agree with plenty of what is said on here but I do feel it is an echo chamber at times on this subject and there are legitimate, alternative views on illegal immigration and govt policies (now and historically) that don’t, necessarily, make the person who holds them thick and/or racist.12 -
Airman Brown said:The_Organiser said:IanJRO said:palarsehater said:To label the bbc right wing is definately todays funnyJust like the govt having a firmer approach to illegal immigration now. Go back to the early Blair years when the govt openly implemented what was effectively an open door policy on immigration which a lot of people also felt was a bad move.
The concerns of some of the general public are not centred purely on current numbers we may or may not be taking, it’s the compounded impact of years of immigration targeting a multicultural society that really has not and does not work in a lot of deprived areas. It’s the impact of that on local infrastructure and public services. Now immigration is not the only factor, it’s years of underfunding too, of course. But when joe bloggs can never get a doctors appointment and when they do the room is full off people clearly not originally from these shores, the perception becomes ingrained in the eyes of those people.3 -
My local hospital is riddled with bloody foreigners, that’s right there’s loads of them…
…Treating all the patients.35 -
Football Focus now cancelled and everyone on Final Score is refusing to present it! Oh the BEEB have scored a massive 'own goal'....excuse the pun!7
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Personally think Lineker is a twat (not cause of this, just in general) but the BBC has definitely out twatted him here.Employing Lineker who is known for airing his views on Twitter and then being annoyed when he does that, is akin to employing a shock journalist (Jeremy Clarkson for example) and then being annoyed when they write shock articles.4
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Redmidland said:Football Focus now cancelled and everyone on Final Score is refusing to present it! Oh the BEEB have scored a massive 'own goal'....excuse the pun!
That - and also maybe the government haven't read the room.
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Haven't read the whole thread, but my view is that if you are on Lineker's side, you should absolutely not be cancelling your direct debit etc. The BBC needs to be taken back, not defunded. It's the thing feared most by the media owning billionaires like Murdoch. They can't buy it and control it. (All the views on Twitter and Lineker too). The problem is that it is currently headed up by one of their rats and it is his appointment that was the crux of the impartiality issue, not a personal tweet from a sports presenter.
I'm sure this view has even voiced previously, so apologies. Just in case though24 -
Another example of the internal chaos at the BBC is that they have scored this massive own goal with Attenborough, yet tomorrow night will see the 2nd part of Paul Whitehouse’s brilliant broadside against the privatised water companies filling our rivers and beaches with shit. I know which one of those two programmes is going to be more damaging to the Tories in the next General Election.Don’t miss it, btw. BBC2, 20.00. Plenty of time afterwards to go switch your water supplier…oh, hang on….17
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Macauley Bonne is going to boycott scoring today in solidarity with Gary Lineker.25
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swordfish said:
Although a static image, still a better presenter than Alex Scott.5 -
CAFCTrev said:Macauley Bonne is going to boycott scoring today in solidarity with Gary Lineker.1
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swordfish said:1
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whatever your views (and I sense a majority position on this forum at least), the BBC and Lineker quickly need to de-escalate this, and that will involve short term compromises from both and a robust and public review of policy. Entrenched positions from both sides are not helpful.4
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Cloudworm said:Haven't read the whole thread, but my view is that if you are on Lineker's side, you should absolutely not be cancelling your direct debit etc. The BBC needs to be taken back, not defunded. It's the thing feared most by the media owning billionaires like Murdoch. They can't buy it and control it. (All the views on Twitter and Lineker too). The problem is that it is currently headed up by one of their rats and it is his appointment that was the crux of the impartiality issue, not a personal tweet from a sports presenter.
I'm sure this view has even voiced previously, so apologies. Just in case though
Those at the top of the BBC are government lackeys but I don't want to undermine the BBC as a whole which I think, like the health service, is a valuable but vulnerable institution, one which gives Britain a presence far wider than its size alone would merit.
However, the ways in which you can express your contempt for the Tory pricks dismantling the BBC are limited, and this is a way of demonstrating that contempt and advising my MP that I've taken some action in protest.
It probably won't cost the BBC any lost revenue as the quarter's DD has just been taken, and if changes are made by the end of May then I'll put it back in place.
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IdleHans said:Cloudworm said:Haven't read the whole thread, but my view is that if you are on Lineker's side, you should absolutely not be cancelling your direct debit etc. The BBC needs to be taken back, not defunded. It's the thing feared most by the media owning billionaires like Murdoch. They can't buy it and control it. (All the views on Twitter and Lineker too). The problem is that it is currently headed up by one of their rats and it is his appointment that was the crux of the impartiality issue, not a personal tweet from a sports presenter.
I'm sure this view has even voiced previously, so apologies. Just in case though
Those at the top of the BBC are government lackeys but I don't want to undermine the BBC as a whole which I think, like the health service, is a valuable but vulnerable institution, one which gives Britain a presence far wider than its size alone would merit.
However, the ways in which you can express your contempt for the Tory pricks dismantling the BBC are limited, and this is a way of demonstrating that contempt and advising my MP that I've taken some action in protest.
It probably won't cost the BBC any lost revenue as the quarter's DD has just been taken, and if changes are made by the end of May then I'll put it back in place.9
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