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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446
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not strictly true, the full fee won’t be counted this year but will be spread out over the course of the contract. what I can’t work out is if L1 is governed by FFP or SCMP. I don’t think fees are included in SCMPsupaclive said:Transfer fees aren't imcluded in FFP
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I thought the squad cap rules were removed at the same time as the salary cap rules (which were put in place during Covid). That limited us to spending £2.5m on salaries along with a limit on the number of players. The rules were later changed back to SCMP (FFP in L1 and L2).2
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That's how fees are treated in the accounts, but only wages taken into account for setting the FFP limit, which is 60% of turnover IIRC, and can include equity investment. Outfield Squad limit is 22 excluding under 21's.fenaddick said:
not strictly true, the full fee won’t be counted this year but will be spread out over the course of the contract. what I can’t work out is if L1 is governed by FFP or SCMP. I don’t think fees are included in SCMPsupaclive said:Transfer fees aren't imcluded in FFP
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Doubt we're near either limit, but I also doubt anyone on here knows what the wage/turnover figures are that are relevant at the moment.
Squad limit numbers were not removed at the same time as the salary cap rules. That is a myth.
Edit - I was in direct contact with the EFL last season who confirmed to me that the L1 limit was 22. I don't think it has changed.3 -
There's no way the club will put out a statement like that & make our SMT look like a group of bumbling idiots. They'll probably just say that we tried but just couldn't get them over the line in time & make our SMT look like a group of bumbling liars.DICKIE PLUMB said:I can see it now - “We tried to bring new players in but they wouldn’t sign due to the uncertainty over our manager” .1 -
That's SCMP not FFP. It's why there's so much chat about how Chelsea are going to pass FFP regulations this year. I think L1 uses SCMP which is the 60% of turnover you were talking aboutswordfish said:
That's how fees are treated in the accounts, but only wages taken into account for setting the FFP limit, which is 60% of turnover IIRC, and can include equity investment. Outfield Squad limit is 22 excluding under 21's.fenaddick said:
not strictly true, the full fee won’t be counted this year but will be spread out over the course of the contract. what I can’t work out is if L1 is governed by FFP or SCMP. I don’t think fees are included in SCMPsupaclive said:Transfer fees aren't imcluded in FFP
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Doubt we're near either limit, but I also doubt anyone on here knows what the wage/turnover figures are that are relevant at the moment.
Squad limit numbers were not removed at the same time as the salary cap rules. That is a myth.0 -
No there’s still a squat limit but we’re not in danger of breaching that that’s for sureScoham said:I thought the squad cap rules were removed at the same time as the salary cap rules (which were put in place during Covid). That limited us to spending £2.5m on salaries along with a limit on the number of players. The rules were later changed back to SCMP (FFP in L1 and L2).2 -
I don't believe the staying within the rules nonsense for a second.ButtleJR said:Striker and right back are apparently coming. We need to get two more out to get any more in than that whilst staying within the rules. So don't write that off just yet.
We've reduced the size of the squad considerably since 1st January.
The only rule I can think of is their own self imposed budget, which doesn't feel like it's any different to Sandgaard's.
Same budget, same strategy, increase revenue or slash costs to save @£5M/£8M a year and fund this through player sales.
Therefore you must play Academy players asap in order to sell them asap.
RD/TS/SE7 all seem very similar.15 -
Holden coming down to the Valley to sort methven/scott out ?000__Jaaaaay__000 said:Been told there should be some action before Fridays deadline.7 -
Surprise surpriseNabySarr said:
Not signed enough players and have sacked the manager before the end of the window. This month couldn’t have gone much worse. Shame after some promising signings but they’ve fucked it up big time this monthCroydon said:
Shit first window from the new mob if that's the casenagAddick said:Rumours on ittv that it’s likely to only be Dabo and Tedic signing
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The squat limit might explain why our players are not fit enough.cafcfan1990 said:
No there’s still a squat limit but we’re not in danger of breaching that that’s for sureScoham said:I thought the squad cap rules were removed at the same time as the salary cap rules (which were put in place during Covid). That limited us to spending £2.5m on salaries along with a limit on the number of players. The rules were later changed back to SCMP (FFP in L1 and L2).7 -
Did Chem not take Manny’s squad place (albeit different position)?2
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Can see us getting out of contract players in too. Quite a few still available.0
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Charlie told me my winkle was the largest he’d ever seen and now I’m worried he might have been fibbingTalal said:Unless something is happening late on that's 3 times now an ITK has been told a striker will be announced and nothing happened. Who's feeding the lies, Charlie?
Ahem, maybe start a new thread, members only.
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He is an arrogant buffoon - listen to his interviews.Isawsummersplay said:What I don’t understand is why would Methven be playing silly buggers at this point in time?
I assume he has told his money men that a top six finish is the minimum requirement. The way he appears to be going about things isn’t exactly conducive to achieving that objective.
He will get found out and hopefully removed.2 -
As I keep saying to give methven & the gang a wage while getting someone else to fund the running of the club. Of course what bullshit they've told the "investors" who knows ?Melrose said:Why, oh why then, did they buy the fucking club? One has to wonder what their true motives are. 2 months in and they have totally lost the fans. This isn't going to end well. Billionaires, AS, my arse2 -
Starting to wonder if most of the signings we’ve made were pre done by Gallen, and he ended up blowing the budget, funded by billionaires, lol, what a smokescreen that is to hide behind.0
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Even if we were there's nothing to stop the investors inputting some cash into the club, if they wanted to or were aware of the fact.supaclive said:We are NOWHERE NEAR FFP!
I can't believe people still believe this crap2 -
The over 21 squad limit is 20 this season, same as last season.
Keepers don't count
Hector
Thomas
Jones
Edun
Dobson
Taylor
Camara
McGrandles
Fraser
Kirk
Blackett-Taylor
Jayesimi
May
Aneke
Dabo if signed
That's 15 that count, so way under the limit.
I don't know if the 2.5m salary cap is still a thing4 -
& I think (correct me if I'm wrong) transfer fees don't count towards FFP.fenaddick said:
those fees would have been amortised over the length of their contract anyway regardless of payment structureNabySarr said:
Only thing I can think of is that we are probably still pay the transfer fees of Jaiyesimi, Kirk, Stockley, Lavelle, Aneke as these are usually paid in instalments over the duration of the contract they sign rather than in one go. That (and the wages of those that are still here) might be having an impact nowfenaddick said:unless the wages we are paying are championship level we can’t be anywhere near FFP limits. Our squad is small and we haven’t spent much on transfers fees really. If a L1 team is having FFP issues they’d basically need to be going bust4 -
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There is with my kneescafcfan1990 said:
No there’s still a squat limit but we’re not in danger of breaching that that’s for sureScoham said:I thought the squad cap rules were removed at the same time as the salary cap rules (which were put in place during Covid). That limited us to spending £2.5m on salaries along with a limit on the number of players. The rules were later changed back to SCMP (FFP in L1 and L2).0 -
The way this is all going I would not be surprised in the slightest if someone tried to test our resolve with a last minute bid for Leaburn and he went.10
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The signing of Alfie was funded by a sponsor not our owners ( & apologies I can't remember who posted that but he confirmed it 100% )Mendonca In Asdas said:Starting to wonder if most of the signings we’ve made were pre done by Gallen, and he ended up blowing the budget, funded by billionaires, lol, what a smokescreen that is to hide behind.1 -
Plaayer.charltonbob said:
The signing of Alfie was funded by a sponsor not our owners ( & apologies I can't remember who posted that but he confirmed it 100% )Mendonca In Asdas said:Starting to wonder if most of the signings we’ve made were pre done by Gallen, and he ended up blowing the budget, funded by billionaires, lol, what a smokescreen that is to hide behind.1 -
Down at the Millers you mean ??000__Jaaaaay__000 said:Been told there should be some action before Fridays deadline.2 -
Don’t get fooled by the whole close to limits or rules. We aren’t going to be.
We were told from the start an agreed budget was in place which was more than last season and we were going to have a go. So many players, and senior ones at that, have left.
Squad limit is nowhere near and if people think we are near FFP for wages to turnover, that means people think we are paying May, Isted, Jones, Edun, Taylor, Camara (loan), and Campbell (loan) far, far more than Bonne, Inniss, Morgan, Lavelle, Clare, Wollacott, Egbo, Gilbey, Payne, and soon to be Kirk and one more, plus what we had in loans of Sessegnon and Rak-Sakyi etc.Do not believe the spin, they just aren’t either prepared to spend the money to make us competitive, or they’ve underestimated the market and players don’t want to join us, or both.73 -
Think it’ll be Dabo and Tedic and one youngster on loan, based on what Airman was saying. Although actually he said two youngsters and one senior player, now I think about it.Still think we need a dominant CB most of all.3
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But we're told he's never spoken to CM apparently. So who is the mole that's feeding the exact lines that CM wants pushed?alburyaddick said:As Airman suggests It does seem like Methven and ( presumably) Leneghan deliberately mislead Reams on ITTV and Dubai on here that there are positive things happening - lots of money to spend, billionaire owners , strikers incoming frequently and popular ex managers in the running for the managerial post.
I’m not sure how sustainable this campaign of misinformation is and I have no direct knowledge of Methven but he certainly has the pedigree for this sort of activity. I suppose a few more chickens will come home to roost by Friday at 11pm.1 -
Laughable.ButtleJR said:Striker and right back are apparently coming. We need to get two more out to get any more in than that whilst staying within the rules. So don't write that off just yet.
Struggling with FFP even though the squad this year is considerably younger, less experienced than last year and less players to boot?
Anyone claiming FFP should be laughed off the forum at this point. Joke.24 -
From what was said earlier, Cardiff would let him leave if they could get Keifer Moore in. But Bournemouth dont want to let Moore leave so there we are.ButtleJR said:Cardiff striker wanted to come but Cardiff blocked the move. Sounds like he won't be coming at this point.
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