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Just Stop Oil protestors.....
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LargeAddick said:ME14addick said:LargeAddick said:I agree with the OP although its strayed way off topic now.
The point they are making however is that opening new oil and gas fields does nothing to help the security of the UK's energy supply. It will be sold on the open market for the benefit of the Oil & Gas companies. If we really wanted to ensure security of oil and gas supplies we should, right at the start, have made the profits go back into the UK economy not global companies and had a wealth fund for the UK benefit, like they did in Norway. In a Climate Crisis opening new fields will just line the pockets of the Oil & Gas industry owners. It's too late to make oil and gas exploration for the benefit of the UK consumer, but we can make renewables the key focus for the benefit of the UK, providing new jobs and prosperity.
I also disagree that throwing confetti at wedding of a politician who is very much responsible for much of the problems we have today, is unacceptable. It's also been claimed by JSO that the lady wasn't one of their members anyway.
The disruption due to climate change is already being felt across the world, and is far more disruptive than throwing pieces of orange paper.5 -
seth plum said:valleynick66 said:seth plum said:valleynick66 said:seth plum said:valleynick66 said:seth plum said:valleynick66 said:seth plum said:Deforestation for meat production is a direct increase of CO2 and decrease of Oxygen.
Environmental protestors could target fast food businesses.
You never know, one unintended consequences and side benefit might even be an improvement in public health and a decrease in obesity.
One outcome for protests might be to raise awareness of the problem. A lot of people know about the fossil fuel issue, I reckon not so many know about the issues caused by our eating habits.
The outlets might create more attractive non meat offerings, and decrease the meat ones, like the double burgers and suchlike. Maybe make them twice the price, three times even, to fund a sincere and realistic reversal of deforestation.We need to be realistic about any protests.I think health education including diet is getting better generally.0 -
MrOneLung said:seth plum said:valleynick66 said:seth plum said:valleynick66 said:seth plum said:valleynick66 said:seth plum said:valleynick66 said:seth plum said:Deforestation for meat production is a direct increase of CO2 and decrease of Oxygen.
Environmental protestors could target fast food businesses.
You never know, one unintended consequences and side benefit might even be an improvement in public health and a decrease in obesity.
One outcome for protests might be to raise awareness of the problem. A lot of people know about the fossil fuel issue, I reckon not so many know about the issues caused by our eating habits.
The outlets might create more attractive non meat offerings, and decrease the meat ones, like the double burgers and suchlike. Maybe make them twice the price, three times even, to fund a sincere and realistic reversal of deforestation.We need to be realistic about any protests.I think health education including diet is getting better generally.0 -
clb74 said:In the name of Climate Change how much are we personally willing to give up?
How many on this thread have given up travelling abroad?
Has anyone ditched their car for a bike?
Reduced food intake , stopped buying stuff they don't need?
How often do we wash our clothes, do we need to shower , bath everyday.2 -
seth plum said:valleynick66 said:seth plum said:valleynick66 said:seth plum said:valleynick66 said:seth plum said:valleynick66 said:seth plum said:Deforestation for meat production is a direct increase of CO2 and decrease of Oxygen.
Environmental protestors could target fast food businesses.
You never know, one unintended consequences and side benefit might even be an improvement in public health and a decrease in obesity.
One outcome for protests might be to raise awareness of the problem. A lot of people know about the fossil fuel issue, I reckon not so many know about the issues caused by our eating habits.
The outlets might create more attractive non meat offerings, and decrease the meat ones, like the double burgers and suchlike. Maybe make them twice the price, three times even, to fund a sincere and realistic reversal of deforestation.We need to be realistic about any protests.I think health education including diet is getting better generally.We have to be realistic about what behaviours we expect to change and how.0 -
ShootersHillGuru said:clb74 said:In the name of Climate Change how much are we personally willing to give up?
How many on this thread have given up travelling abroad?
Has anyone ditched their car for a bike?
Reduced food intake , stopped buying stuff they don't need?
How often do we wash our clothes, do we need to shower , bath everyday.
It won't happen, but I think the time has come when we should all be allocated an annual budget of air miles for personal travel abroad given the contribution flying makes to CO2 emissions. I appreciate that it's a radical idea and an imposition on personnel freedoms though, a fortnight in Mabelthorpe perhaps not as tempting as say in Majorca, with no disrespect intended to the good residents of the Lincolnshire resort, but plenty taken no doubt.
To try and effect a reduction in air travel through taxation measures would likely proportionately disadvantage those least able to afford it.
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ShootersHillGuru said:clb74 said:In the name of Climate Change how much are we personally willing to give up?
How many on this thread have given up travelling abroad?
Has anyone ditched their car for a bike?
Reduced food intake , stopped buying stuff they don't need?
How often do we wash our clothes, do we need to shower , bath everyday.0 -
Thing is the whole top down thing is also pointless if it doesn’t mean the whole world. It never will.1
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swordfish said:ShootersHillGuru said:clb74 said:In the name of Climate Change how much are we personally willing to give up?
How many on this thread have given up travelling abroad?
Has anyone ditched their car for a bike?
Reduced food intake , stopped buying stuff they don't need?
How often do we wash our clothes, do we need to shower , bath everyday.
It won't happen, but I think the time has come when we should all be allocated an annual budget of air miles for personal travel abroad given the contribution flying makes to CO2 emissions. I appreciate that it's a radical idea and an imposition on personnel freedoms though, a fortnight in Mabelthorpe perhaps not as tempting as say in Majorca, with no disrespect intended to the good residents of the Lincolnshire resort, but plenty taken no doubt.
To try and effect a reduction in air travel through taxation measures would likely proportionately disadvantage those least able to afford it.0 -
ME14addick said:ShootersHillGuru said:clb74 said:In the name of Climate Change how much are we personally willing to give up?
How many on this thread have given up travelling abroad?
Has anyone ditched their car for a bike?
Reduced food intake , stopped buying stuff they don't need?
How often do we wash our clothes, do we need to shower , bath everyday.0 - Sponsored links:
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I’ve really enjoyed ME14s journey from Brexit voting Tory, to liberal open minded and progressive since 2017. Long may it continue,
and shame others are falling further down the conspiracy rabbit hole14 -
Stu_of_Kunming said:ME14addick said:ShootersHillGuru said:clb74 said:In the name of Climate Change how much are we personally willing to give up?
How many on this thread have given up travelling abroad?
Has anyone ditched their car for a bike?
Reduced food intake , stopped buying stuff they don't need?
How often do we wash our clothes, do we need to shower , bath everyday.
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Rothko said:I’ve really enjoyed ME14s journey from Brexit voting Tory, to liberal open minded and progressive since 2017. Long may it continue,
and shame others are falling further down the conspiracy rabbit hole0 -
Dazzler21 said:seth plum said:Deforestation for meat production is a direct increase of CO2 and decrease of Oxygen.
Environmental protestors could target fast food businesses.
If we all went vegan this would expedite this, but first you would have to deforest more of the planet to make more vegans... so are you calling for a genocide of people, animals and insects anyway?
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'deforest more of the planet to make more vegans' is staggering stuff. What do you think cattle eat, air?0
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I think I need slightly better confirmation of identification before I’m outraged at that.1
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It will no doubt be in tomorrows guardian6
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ShootersHillGuru said:I think I need slightly better confirmation of identification before I’m outraged at that.1
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Croydon said:ShootersHillGuru said:I think I need slightly better confirmation of identification before I’m outraged at that.4
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swordfish said:ShootersHillGuru said:clb74 said:In the name of Climate Change how much are we personally willing to give up?
How many on this thread have given up travelling abroad?
Has anyone ditched their car for a bike?
Reduced food intake , stopped buying stuff they don't need?
How often do we wash our clothes, do we need to shower , bath everyday.
It won't happen, but I think the time has come when we should all be allocated an annual budget of air miles for personal travel abroad given the contribution flying makes to CO2 emissions. I appreciate that it's a radical idea and an imposition on personnel freedoms though, a fortnight in Mabelthorpe perhaps not as tempting as say in Majorca, with no disrespect intended to the good residents of the Lincolnshire resort, but plenty taken no doubt.
To try and effect a reduction in air travel through taxation measures would likely proportionately disadvantage those least able to afford it.0 -
we always have top down switches, it’s how all technological change has happened in the past 30 years.
as for ‘nazi state’ I think you need to get outside and turn the computer off4 -
Leuth said:'deforest more of the planet to make more vegans' is staggering stuff. What do you think cattle eat, air?0
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LargeAddick said:Croydon said:ShootersHillGuru said:I think I need slightly better confirmation of identification before I’m outraged at that.
Disgrace.5 -
SELR_addicks said:LargeAddick said:Croydon said:ShootersHillGuru said:I think I need slightly better confirmation of identification before I’m outraged at that.
Disgrace.2 -
redman said:Leuth said:'deforest more of the planet to make more vegans' is staggering stuff. What do you think cattle eat, air?
But I might give it a try after 10 pints and a vindaloo0 -
LargeAddick said:SELR_addicks said:LargeAddick said:Croydon said:ShootersHillGuru said:I think I need slightly better confirmation of identification before I’m outraged at that.
Disgrace.
You can be against climate change and the major issues facing the world without living like a monk unable to participate in society.11 -
SELR_addicks said:LargeAddick said:SELR_addicks said:LargeAddick said:Croydon said:ShootersHillGuru said:I think I need slightly better confirmation of identification before I’m outraged at that.
Disgrace.
You can be against climate change and the major issues facing the world without living like a monk unable to participate in society.The world isn’t binary, as some climate change deniers insist4 -
SELR_addicks said:LargeAddick said:SELR_addicks said:LargeAddick said:Croydon said:ShootersHillGuru said:I think I need slightly better confirmation of identification before I’m outraged at that.
Disgrace.
You can be against climate change and the major issues facing the world without living like a monk unable to participate in society.11 -
ValleyGary said:SELR_addicks said:LargeAddick said:SELR_addicks said:LargeAddick said:Croydon said:ShootersHillGuru said:I think I need slightly better confirmation of identification before I’m outraged at that.
Disgrace.
You can be against climate change and the major issues facing the world without living like a monk unable to participate in society.6
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