Due to the rarity of genuine left sided players they generally cost a bit more so we only ever want to pay for one. As a result we push them too hard and they break down. Or they get a normal injury and we have no cover. That's assuming we didn't go down the "budget" route and get a player that was injury prone in the first place.
Surely if Wigan can afford Sessegnon’s wages we could / should have kept him on board as our second left back for inevitable situations like this (when your only other left back gets injured)
Sess wanted to come back but we took the cheaper option of going for TT instead….& now we’re paying the price.
Another good example of how Paul Elliott’s claim that we are ‘doing an Ipswich’ is a load of old tosh.
Ipswich signed left back Leif Davis from Leeds for £1m the year they went up (& kept Greg Leigh who is now at Oxford & also v.gd as back up)
Charlton signed Tayo Edun on a free & renewed the contract of a cheap 4th choice centre back as his back up.
Our investment strategy couldn’t be much more different.
I don't think the first line is fair, TT was resigned to be the left sided center back and emergency left back cover. It's still not an excuse to have two proper left backs ahead of him.
But the biggest problem is we started with a 433 squad, tried to change it to a 352 squad, failed and now have missing pieces in the 433 squad.
Sess wanted to come back but we took the cheaper option of going for TT instead….& now we’re paying the price.
Another good example of how Paul Elliott’s claim that we are ‘doing an Ipswich’ is a load of old tosh.
Ipswich signed left back Leif Davis from Leeds for £1m the year they went up (& kept Greg Leigh who is now at Oxford & also v.gd as back up)
Charlton signed Tayo Edun on a free & renewed the contract of a cheap 4th choice centre back as his back up.
Our investment strategy couldn’t be much more different.
On the field anyone comparing us to Ipswich is very naive or disingenuous based on the evidence so far. It is still early days so I really hope it improves but...
Since our new owners took over in July I think I am right they have bought in 5 loanees (Camara, L Watson, C Campbell, Tedic, Abankwa) and I think 6 perms (T Watson, Isted, Jones, T Taylor, Edun, Walker). May came in before they officially owned us so no idea who gets credit for that.
Now let's look at the starting team Tuesday to see the blend between these new 10 players and who was here already.
Already Here x8 Maynard-Brewer; Asiimee; Fraser, Dobson, Campbell; Blackett Taylor; Leaburn; Thomas
New x1 Jones
Disputable x2
1. Hector - was here already but maybe Scott's player from Jan?
2. May - bought in before the takeover. There were people on here saying the new owners didn't want him iirc
For only 1 of the 11 new players definitely bought in since the ownership change in July to start is startling.
Of course we could maybe also give the new owners /Scott the benefit of Penney (now clubless) and Kane (playing in Gibraltar in front of 30 people) from Jan window when their people were in charge.
Sess wanted to come back but we took the cheaper option of going for TT instead….& now we’re paying the price.
Another good example of how Paul Elliott’s claim that we are ‘doing an Ipswich’ is a load of old tosh.
Ipswich signed left back Leif Davis from Leeds for £1m the year they went up (& kept Greg Leigh who is now at Oxford & also v.gd as back up)
Charlton signed Tayo Edun on a free & renewed the contract of a cheap 4th choice centre back as his back up.
Our investment strategy couldn’t be much more different.
On the field anyone comparing us to Ipswich is very naive or disingenuous based on the evidence so far. It is still early days so I really hope it improves but...
Since our new owners took over in July I think I am right they have bought in 5 loanees (Camara, L Watson, C Campbell, Tedic, Abankwa) and I think 6 perms (T Watson, Isted, Jones, T Taylor, Edun, Walker). May came in before they officially owned us so no idea who gets credit for that.
Now let's look at the starting team Tuesday to see the blend between these new 10 players and who was here already.
Already Here x8 Maynard-Brewer; Asiimee; Fraser, Dobson, Campbell; Blackett Taylor; Leaburn; Thomas
New x1 Jones
Disputable x2
1. Hector - was here already but maybe Scott's player from Jan?
2. May - bought in before the takeover. There were people on here saying the new owners didn't want him iirc
For only 1 of the 11 new players definitely bought in since the ownership change in July to start is startling.
Of course we could maybe also give the new owners /Scott the benefit of Penney (now clubless) and Kane (playing in Gibraltar in front of 30 people) from Jan window when their people were in charge.
Ok and that team lost...
What about the team that started on Saturday?
New players would suddenly be x4: Jones, Watson, Watson, Tedic
Combine that with the fact that Camara is only just coming back from injury, and Taylor was getting starts before his injury (probably at the expense of Watson I'll admit) and Edun would be first choice left back if it wasn't for his injury too, and suddenly that number can be 6 or 7.
My point is taking one game as a snapshot and claiming the whole ethos based on that one lineup is disingenuous
Sess wanted to come back but we took the cheaper option of going for TT instead….& now we’re paying the price.
Another good example of how Paul Elliott’s claim that we are ‘doing an Ipswich’ is a load of old tosh.
Ipswich signed left back Leif Davis from Leeds for £1m the year they went up (& kept Greg Leigh who is now at Oxford & also v.gd as back up)
Charlton signed Tayo Edun on a free & renewed the contract of a cheap 4th choice centre back as his back up.
Our investment strategy couldn’t be much more different.
On the field anyone comparing us to Ipswich is very naive or disingenuous based on the evidence so far. It is still early days so I really hope it improves but...
Since our new owners took over in July I think I am right they have bought in 5 loanees (Camara, L Watson, C Campbell, Tedic, Abankwa) and I think 6 perms (T Watson, Isted, Jones, T Taylor, Edun, Walker). May came in before they officially owned us so no idea who gets credit for that.
Now let's look at the starting team Tuesday to see the blend between these new 10 players and who was here already.
Already Here x8 Maynard-Brewer; Asiimee; Fraser, Dobson, Campbell; Blackett Taylor; Leaburn; Thomas
New x1 Jones
Disputable x2
1. Hector - was here already but maybe Scott's player from Jan?
2. May - bought in before the takeover. There were people on here saying the new owners didn't want him iirc
For only 1 of the 11 new players definitely bought in since the ownership change in July to start is startling.
Of course we could maybe also give the new owners /Scott the benefit of Penney (now clubless) and Kane (playing in Gibraltar in front of 30 people) from Jan window when their people were in charge.
Ok and that team lost...
What about the team that started on Saturday?
New players would suddenly be x4: Jones, Watson, Watson, Tedic
Combine that with the fact that Camara is only just coming back from injury, and Taylor was getting starts before his injury (probably at the expense of Watson I'll admit) and Edun would be first choice left back if it wasn't for his injury too, and suddenly that number can be 6 or 7.
My point is taking one game as a snapshot and claiming the whole ethos based on that one lineup is disingenuous
Fair challenge, picking on the last game only was maybe a bit naughty of me.. but let's go for the weekend before. 4 out of 11 starters were from the 11 new players were bought in during the summer. It's still not a great record (1 in 3 new players to start), and shows that, to date at least, our new players have not been as good as we all would have hoped.
Sure, there were 3 others out injured but when you leave your business late and combine that with brining in players like Camara who hadn't played for a year or more that is pretty predictable.
As I said, too early to call the recent window but so far, I am not particularly impressed and think our best players were pretty much all at the club already (May the clear exception).
Sess wanted to come back but we took the cheaper option of going for TT instead….& now we’re paying the price.
Another good example of how Paul Elliott’s claim that we are ‘doing an Ipswich’ is a load of old tosh.
Ipswich signed left back Leif Davis from Leeds for £1m the year they went up (& kept Greg Leigh who is now at Oxford & also v.gd as back up)
Charlton signed Tayo Edun on a free & renewed the contract of a cheap 4th choice centre back as his back up.
Our investment strategy couldn’t be much more different.
On the field anyone comparing us to Ipswich is very naive or disingenuous based on the evidence so far. It is still early days so I really hope it improves but...
Since our new owners took over in July I think I am right they have bought in 5 loanees (Camara, L Watson, C Campbell, Tedic, Abankwa) and I think 6 perms (T Watson, Isted, Jones, T Taylor, Edun, Walker). May came in before they officially owned us so no idea who gets credit for that.
Now let's look at the starting team Tuesday to see the blend between these new 10 players and who was here already.
Already Here x8 Maynard-Brewer; Asiimee; Fraser, Dobson, Campbell; Blackett Taylor; Leaburn; Thomas
New x1 Jones
Disputable x2
1. Hector - was here already but maybe Scott's player from Jan?
2. May - bought in before the takeover. There were people on here saying the new owners didn't want him iirc
For only 1 of the 11 new players definitely bought in since the ownership change in July to start is startling.
Of course we could maybe also give the new owners /Scott the benefit of Penney (now clubless) and Kane (playing in Gibraltar in front of 30 people) from Jan window when their people were in charge.
Ok and that team lost...
What about the team that started on Saturday?
New players would suddenly be x4: Jones, Watson, Watson, Tedic
Combine that with the fact that Camara is only just coming back from injury, and Taylor was getting starts before his injury (probably at the expense of Watson I'll admit) and Edun would be first choice left back if it wasn't for his injury too, and suddenly that number can be 6 or 7.
My point is taking one game as a snapshot and claiming the whole ethos based on that one lineup is disingenuous
Fair challenge, picking on the last game only was maybe a bit naughty of me.. but let's go for the weekend before. 4 out of 11 starters were from the 11 new players were bought in during the summer. It's still not a great record (1 in 3 new players to start), and shows that, to date at least, our new players have not been as good as we all would have hoped.
Sure, there were 3 others out injured but when you leave your business late and combine that with brining in players like Camara who hadn't played for a year or more that is pretty predictable.
As I said, too early to call the recent window but so far, I am not particularly impressed and think our best players were pretty much all at the club already (May the clear exception).
"When you leave your business late" ......although to put into context, the new owners weren't allowed to complete the sale or take possession of the club until the final week of July, waiting for FA approval of ownership.
They couldn't sign players before that either. Which meant, that apart from the likes of troubled Wigan, Reading etc, every other club in the division had a head start with their summer team rebuilding.
I get that you weren't impressed but to be fair, the new owners had only a few weeks to achieve that which other clubs had all summer to do. It's not the easiest thing in that last few weeks of the window trying to build half a winning squad when mostly only the unaffordable, unfancied or free transfer players are left available.
Sess wanted to come back but we took the cheaper option of going for TT instead….& now we’re paying the price.
Another good example of how Paul Elliott’s claim that we are ‘doing an Ipswich’ is a load of old tosh.
Ipswich signed left back Leif Davis from Leeds for £1m the year they went up (& kept Greg Leigh who is now at Oxford & also v.gd as back up)
Charlton signed Tayo Edun on a free & renewed the contract of a cheap 4th choice centre back as his back up.
Our investment strategy couldn’t be much more different.
I don't think the first line is fair, TT was resigned to be the left sided center back and emergency left back cover. It's still not an excuse to have two proper left backs ahead of him.
But the biggest problem is we started with a 433 squad, tried to change it to a 352 squad, failed and now have missing pieces in the 433 squad.
Can't argue with the rest of your post.
This would make sense. I found the whole full back situation odd all summer.
Think he's been alright but wouldn't argue with anyone who thinks he hasn't. He's at least competitive in one-on-ones and has a decent pass in him. Not been outstanding by any means.
Sessegnon was no doubt a much better footballer but seemed to struggle to play Sat-Tues, and we don't need any more of those players.
Fairly average L1 player so far, so currently we are his level. I hope he improves as we do..I think he has the energy, speed and skill to do so but am not convinced either way
He has a lot of really strong attributes but seems to really struggle with second guessing his judgement of flight or pace of the ball. He will get in a good position, stutter and he’s then reacting really late where as his initial judgement would have him intercepting or clearing cleanly. Even his passing, he’ll see it, stutter and then it’ll get blocked.
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Another good example of how Paul Elliott’s claim that we are ‘doing an Ipswich’ is a load of old tosh.
But the biggest problem is we started with a 433 squad, tried to change it to a 352 squad, failed and now have missing pieces in the 433 squad.
Can't argue with the rest of your post.
#Planning
On the field anyone comparing us to Ipswich is very naive or disingenuous based on the evidence so far. It is still early days so I really hope it improves but...
Since our new owners took over in July I think I am right they have bought in 5 loanees (Camara, L Watson, C Campbell, Tedic, Abankwa) and I think 6 perms (T Watson, Isted, Jones, T Taylor, Edun, Walker). May came in before they officially owned us so no idea who gets credit for that.
Now let's look at the starting team Tuesday to see the blend between these new 10 players and who was here already.
Already Here x8
Maynard-Brewer; Asiimee; Fraser, Dobson, Campbell; Blackett Taylor; Leaburn; Thomas
New x1
Jones
Disputable x2
For only 1 of the 11 new players definitely bought in since the ownership change in July to start is startling.
Of course we could maybe also give the new owners /Scott the benefit of Penney (now clubless) and Kane (playing in Gibraltar in front of 30 people) from Jan window when their people were in charge.
What about the team that started on Saturday?
New players would suddenly be x4: Jones, Watson, Watson, Tedic
Combine that with the fact that Camara is only just coming back from injury, and Taylor was getting starts before his injury (probably at the expense of Watson I'll admit) and Edun would be first choice left back if it wasn't for his injury too, and suddenly that number can be 6 or 7.
My point is taking one game as a snapshot and claiming the whole ethos based on that one lineup is disingenuous
That's often the intelligence of the sauce!
Fair challenge, picking on the last game only was maybe a bit naughty of me.. but let's go for the weekend before. 4 out of 11 starters were from the 11 new players were bought in during the summer. It's still not a great record (1 in 3 new players to start), and shows that, to date at least, our new players have not been as good as we all would have hoped.
Sure, there were 3 others out injured but when you leave your business late and combine that with brining in players like Camara who hadn't played for a year or more that is pretty predictable.
As I said, too early to call the recent window but so far, I am not particularly impressed and think our best players were pretty much all at the club already (May the clear exception).
They couldn't sign players before that either. Which meant, that apart from the likes of troubled Wigan, Reading etc, every other club in the division had a head start with their summer team rebuilding.
I get that you weren't impressed but to be fair, the new owners had only a few weeks to achieve that which other clubs had all summer to do. It's not the easiest thing in that last few weeks of the window trying to build half a winning squad when mostly only the unaffordable, unfancied or free transfer players are left available.
Sessegnon was no doubt a much better footballer but seemed to struggle to play Sat-Tues, and we don't need any more of those players.