Thought considering he has not played a single bit of competitive football for almost a year, he was very good and showed his quality at different moments. Has a good delivery and is comfortable passing with both feet, you don’t see that often in this league.
Not sure what others have said, but I don’t think it’s irrational to have a box midfield with Coventry, Taylor, Docherty and one of Campbell and Berry.
It doesn’t have to be a diamond but a box allows the full backs to push forward that little more, helping Small to get into the game a bit more.
Thought considering he has not played a single bit of competitive football for almost a year, he was very good and showed his quality at different moments. Has a good delivery and is comfortable passing with both feet, you don’t see that often in this league.
Not sure what others have said, but I don’t think it’s irrational to have a box midfield with Coventry, Taylor, Docherty and one of Campbell and Berry.
It doesn’t have to be a diamond but a box allows the full backs to push forward that little more, helping Small to get into the game a bit more.
Just an idea 🤷🏻♂️
Can't begin to imagine that works with a back 4 very well, and if you're playing those 4 with a back 5 it leaves us even more devoid of creativity with a sole striker
I think that NJ must see him as a player that he can work with or he would likely be gone by now.
Credit to the lad; he's been out for some time, so to be playing this well whilst he's still effectively being reintegrated into the first team squad is a very good sign.
Thought considering he has not played a single bit of competitive football for almost a year, he was very good and showed his quality at different moments. Has a good delivery and is comfortable passing with both feet, you don’t see that often in this league.
Not sure what others have said, but I don’t think it’s irrational to have a box midfield with Coventry, Taylor, Docherty and one of Campbell and Berry.
It doesn’t have to be a diamond but a box allows the full backs to push forward that little more, helping Small to get into the game a bit more.
Just an idea 🤷🏻♂️
Can't begin to imagine that works with a back 4 very well, and if you're playing those 4 with a back 5 it leaves us even more devoid of creativity with a sole striker
It would always be with a front two. The extra man in midfield would give us a bit more control and offer enough protection for the defence. Was just an idea that could have its benefits in the right situation.
I have mixed feelings about Taylor playing . It’s good to now see he looks a decent player however the old ( he will be like a new signing) line will now be greatly missed.
I have mixed feelings about Taylor playing . It’s good to now see he looks a decent player however the old ( he will be like a new signing) line will now be greatly missed.
Watching last night I was thinking that Taylor and Coventry are almost clones of each other. What are the significant differences, because Taylor reminded me last night what a good set piece taker he is?
Well Coventry has been consistently very good so far in much more competitive matches. He puts his foot in more, presses quicker and covers more ground. If anyone it's Docherty that should be having to do more to keep his place.
Docherty covers a lot of ground, and key to our press further up the field, I am not sure Coventry and Taylor are suited to that. I was very impressed with him last night, stood out above Campbell. I would like to see Taylor given a chance, but where in this team, and what role I am not so sure!
But you could play TC, Leaburn/Ahadme and Kanu up front rotating and you wouldn't lose the pressing ability. It would give us more potency going forward too.
That leaves a massive gaping hole between your sitters and your number 10 and a different pressing structure to learn
We’re not scoring enough goals . That’s what the training ground is for .
He was decent last night but didn't blow me away. I was suprised he scored higher than Edun, who I personally don't rate, based of effectiveness on the night.
His dead-ball delivery should make him a shoe-in over every other midfielder. This would be a source of a quarter of our goals in most clubs, and turns 1-0s into 2-0s or 1-0 losses into 1-1 draws.
He is also over 6ft and fairly quick over the ground.
Watching that youtube highlight clip I'd say Taylor has the potential to influence a game in the final third more than Coventry, like Braziliance I dont see why they couldnt play together, even less so with the excuse of "they'd just short pass to each other", well, good.
Currently we have Coventry more often than not having to short pass sideways or back to the CB's just for them to hoof it up to Ahadme's bonce. Maybe if he had another like minded player alongside him/ to the front of him, someone who can read the game, pick a pass, hold the ball we'd see much more effective midfield passing, more balls slid in behind for the wingbacks and Docherty/ Berry being able to stay further forward.
I I know many have said he’s too similar in style to CC, but I looked at that game today thinking how different it could have been if we’d had a decent set piece taker. Corners, free kicks - all absolutely awful. It’s such a big part of league 1, surely it would be worth fitting someone in who is able to take a dead ball?
I'm still cautiously unsure about Taylor, I really liked him against Cambridge thought he played well, and does deserve his chance - However I also feel there is a reason (other than Coventry) he's being left out, and that this is a typical sign of players being better than what they are, because they're not playing.
'Does the same job as Coventry' I've been waiting for everyone to turn on one of our best players purely because he's been saddled with set-piece duty. Would Taylor really show that sort of energy, ballwinning ability and nous? I notice the 'pfah and to think we replaced Dobson with this guy' comments starting up. I wonder what sort of reputation Dobson would have had if he took all the corners and free kicks.
He simply has to offer more than Anderson. That simple for me.
Terry Taylor has played a full season at Burton in this league and made an impact, with respect to Karoy, as he is an academy lad, and I want the best for him, he's not ready for this level. I don't think he'd even start games at the likes of Crawley etc, he should be on loan.
Put Terry Taylor and Coventry in midfield together, and I'm very confident it will look better than whatever it is I watched yesterday. The only two midfielders at the club who can make a successful short pass.
Ah, the player who is suddenly a world beater when we lose a couple of games
No one thinks that, it's just when you are watching players play this consistently shit, and there's a player in the club, who doesn't even make the match day squad, who was linked with championship moves before we got him, it's likely people want to see what he can offer.
I don't think for one second Taylor will play and save our season, but he simply has to be better than what we have seen.
Coventry is undroppable, as he's the only player in the middle who can read the game and make an Interception, he also happens to be fairly tidy on the ball, less said about his set pieces, the better.
We need someone in the middle who can help Coventry, and actual control a game of football vs shit opposition, it sure as shit ain't gonna be Karoy, Berry or Docherty, so now my hopes are pinned on Terry Taylor.
He simply has to offer more than Anderson. That simple for me.
Terry Taylor has played a full season at Burton in this league and made an impact, with respect to Karoy, as he is an academy lad, and I want the best for him, he's not ready for this level. I don't think he'd even start games at the likes of Crawley etc, he should be on loan.
Put Terry Taylor and Coventry in midfield together, and I'm very confident it will look better than whatever it is I watched yesterday. The only two midfielders at the club who can make a successful short pass.
I’m not defending Anderson whatsoever here, and essentially agree with your assessment of his ability - but Taylor and Anderson have completely different attributes so unless we completely change the system and style of play I don’t think you can say Taylor offers more currently.
Perhaps, as Sage mentioned, if we played a 4-2-3-1. However we have not recruited for that formation, and do not have the wingers or ‘10’ to play it - so I really just don’t see how that is any better.
I do find it interesting that over the last year Taylor was much maligned as a poor investment under the previous ownership, and now after one solid game in the BSM cup against bottom of the league Cambridge who have not won a match all season - he now should be propelled back into the team.
Now don’t get me wrong, as I mentioned in the post match thread I’m finding the football currently absolutely abhorrent. But for me that is down to Jones to go back to the team he started the season with and show us how he is a coach that got picked up by a premiership team.
If Reuben Selles can get a bunch of kids and a tacked together squad at Reading to play good football - then if Jones can’t get this squad of players able to actually ‘pass through teams’ then for me Luton was clearly the outlier.
He simply has to offer more than Anderson. That simple for me.
Terry Taylor has played a full season at Burton in this league and made an impact, with respect to Karoy, as he is an academy lad, and I want the best for him, he's not ready for this level. I don't think he'd even start games at the likes of Crawley etc, he should be on loan.
Put Terry Taylor and Coventry in midfield together, and I'm very confident it will look better than whatever it is I watched yesterday. The only two midfielders at the club who can make a successful short pass.
I’m not defending Anderson whatsoever here, and essentially agree with your assessment of his ability - but Taylor and Anderson have completely different attributes so unless we completely change the system and style of play I don’t think you can say Taylor offers more currently.
Perhaps, as Sage mentioned, if we played a 4-2-3-1. However we have not recruited for that formation, and do not have the wingers or ‘10’ to play it - so I really just don’t see how that is any better.
I do find it interesting that over the last year Taylor was much maligned as a poor investment under the previous ownership, and now after one solid game in the BSM cup against bottom of the league Cambridge who have not won a match all season - he now should be propelled back into the team.
Now don’t get me wrong, as I mentioned in the post match thread I’m finding the football currently absolutely abhorrent. But for me that is down to Jones to go back to the team he started the season with and show us how he is a coach that got picked up by a premiership team.
If Reuben Selles can get a bunch of kids and a tacked together squad at Reading to play good football - then if Jones can’t get this squad of players able to actually ‘pass through teams’ then for me Luton was clearly the outlier.
Spot on. They are different players, but still play in the middle and I would like to see if one can offer more.
As you said, the issue is, we have recruited for single playstyle essentially, which is poor management top to bottom. We should be able to play more than one formation, or at least have players versatile enough to adapt. It's frankly ridiculous that we have 'specialist' type players in league one, who can't even specialise in their role.
As you say, it's up to Jones now. No more players incoming, and we can't rely on that anyway, as it's clear we won't spend substantial fees to secure the top level players in this league. I am concerned he can't sort this out, as I think we just lack too many players that are actually good at football. His only option might be to play even more defensive and become a dirty side, similar to how Evans had Stevenage playing. Cause I can't see us playing liquid football any time soon.
He simply has to offer more than Anderson. That simple for me.
Terry Taylor has played a full season at Burton in this league and made an impact, with respect to Karoy, as he is an academy lad, and I want the best for him, he's not ready for this level. I don't think he'd even start games at the likes of Crawley etc, he should be on loan.
Put Terry Taylor and Coventry in midfield together, and I'm very confident it will look better than whatever it is I watched yesterday. The only two midfielders at the club who can make a successful short pass.
I’m not defending Anderson whatsoever here, and essentially agree with your assessment of his ability - but Taylor and Anderson have completely different attributes so unless we completely change the system and style of play I don’t think you can say Taylor offers more currently.
Perhaps, as Sage mentioned, if we played a 4-2-3-1. However we have not recruited for that formation, and do not have the wingers or ‘10’ to play it - so I really just don’t see how that is any better.
I do find it interesting that over the last year Taylor was much maligned as a poor investment under the previous ownership, and now after one solid game in the BSM cup against bottom of the league Cambridge who have not won a match all season - he now should be propelled back into the team.
Now don’t get me wrong, as I mentioned in the post match thread I’m finding the football currently absolutely abhorrent. But for me that is down to Jones to go back to the team he started the season with and show us how he is a coach that got picked up by a premiership team.
If Reuben Selles can get a bunch of kids and a tacked together squad at Reading to play good football - then if Jones can’t get this squad of players able to actually ‘pass through teams’ then for me Luton was clearly the outlier.
Spot on. They are different players, but still play in the middle and I would like to see if one can offer more.
As you said, the issue is, we have recruited for single playstyle essentially, which is poor management top to bottom. We should be able to play more than one formation, or at least have players versatile enough to adapt. It's frankly ridiculous that we have 'specialist' type players in league one, who can't even specialise in their role.
As you say, it's up to Jones now. No more players incoming, and we can't rely on that anyway, as it's clear we won't spend substantial fees to secure the top level players in this league. I am concerned he can't sort this out, as I think we just lack too many players that are actually good at football. His only option might be to play even more defensive and become a dirty side, similar to how Evans had Stevenage playing. Cause I can't see us playing liquid football any time soon.
This is what I’m really worried about. In his post match interview he seemed to think we got into good positions, and passed through Stevenage - and then went on to say we need to win ‘by hook or by crook’. Seemingly thinking we were decent on the ball.
This makes me think he is going to go even more defensive next match.
One thing I’ve noticed in his pre match interviews is he always talks about how games at this level are difficult. I totally agree with him, and don’t think anyone has the right to win games, but the way he talks about it just makes me feel like it feeds into this negative defensive mindset.
He wants us to be a front footed team, but all I’ve seen this season is us being back footed and trying to nick goals - like a team who trying to avoid relegation would play.
I think the main reason people want him in is his dead ball delivery and there’s an argument that actually a dead ball specialist is the most jmportant player in games like yesterday’s and Tuesdays which are likely to be scrappy affairs with lots of dead balls. I’m not sure how you shoehorn him in though. It might work with Coventry and Berry if Ramsay and Small are really allowed to bomb on. 352 out of possession and 3232 in possession, would help to pin opposition back a bit possibly too
I think the main reason people want him in is his dead ball delivery and there’s an argument that actually a dead ball specialist is the most jmportant player in games like yesterday’s and Tuesdays which are likely to be scrappy affairs with lots of dead balls. I’m not sure how you shoehorn him in though. It might work with Coventry and Berry if Ramsay and Small are really allowed to bomb on. 352 out of possession and 3232 in possession, would help to pin opposition back a bit possibly too
I think the main reason people want him in is because Charlton’s best players over the last 15 years of dross have been the players that aren’t actually in the team at the time. Our players get better in absence and worse in action.
I think the main reason people want him in is his dead ball delivery and there’s an argument that actually a dead ball specialist is the most jmportant player in games like yesterday’s and Tuesdays which are likely to be scrappy affairs with lots of dead balls. I’m not sure how you shoehorn him in though. It might work with Coventry and Berry if Ramsay and Small are really allowed to bomb on. 352 out of possession and 3232 in possession, would help to pin opposition back a bit possibly too
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Not sure what others have said, but I don’t think it’s irrational to have a box midfield with Coventry, Taylor, Docherty and one of Campbell and Berry.
It doesn’t have to be a diamond but a box allows the full backs to push forward that little more, helping Small to get into the game a bit more.
Just an idea 🤷🏻♂️
Credit to the lad; he's been out for some time, so to be playing this well whilst he's still effectively being reintegrated into the first team squad is a very good sign.
He is also over 6ft and fairly quick over the ground.
Currently we have Coventry more often than not having to short pass sideways or back to the CB's just for them to hoof it up to Ahadme's bonce. Maybe if he had another like minded player alongside him/ to the front of him, someone who can read the game, pick a pass, hold the ball we'd see much more effective midfield passing, more balls slid in behind for the wingbacks and Docherty/ Berry being able to stay further forward.
The opposite of our midfielders and strikers currently, essentially
Coventry has done well this season but Taylor needs to be given a chance. I see no reason why they can’t play together if we drop a defender.
It would be typical of how football works that Taylor plays and we score from a set piece.
Terry Taylor has played a full season at Burton in this league and made an impact, with respect to Karoy, as he is an academy lad, and I want the best for him, he's not ready for this level. I don't think he'd even start games at the likes of Crawley etc, he should be on loan.
Put Terry Taylor and Coventry in midfield together, and I'm very confident it will look better than whatever it is I watched yesterday. The only two midfielders at the club who can make a successful short pass.
I don't think for one second Taylor will play and save our season, but he simply has to be better than what we have seen.
Coventry is undroppable, as he's the only player in the middle who can read the game and make an Interception, he also happens to be fairly tidy on the ball, less said about his set pieces, the better.
We need someone in the middle who can help Coventry, and actual control a game of football vs shit opposition, it sure as shit ain't gonna be Karoy, Berry or Docherty, so now my hopes are pinned on Terry Taylor.
Perhaps, as Sage mentioned, if we played a 4-2-3-1. However we have not recruited for that formation, and do not have the wingers or ‘10’ to play it - so I really just don’t see how that is any better.
I do find it interesting that over the last year Taylor was much maligned as a poor investment under the previous ownership, and now after one solid game in the BSM cup against bottom of the league Cambridge who have not won a match all season - he now should be propelled back into the team.
Now don’t get me wrong, as I mentioned in the post match thread I’m finding the football currently absolutely abhorrent. But for me that is down to Jones to go back to the team he started the season with and show us how he is a coach that got picked up by a premiership team.
If Reuben Selles can get a bunch of kids and a tacked together squad at Reading to play good football - then if Jones can’t get this squad of players able to actually ‘pass through teams’ then for me Luton was clearly the outlier.
As you said, the issue is, we have recruited for single playstyle essentially, which is poor management top to bottom. We should be able to play more than one formation, or at least have players versatile enough to adapt. It's frankly ridiculous that we have 'specialist' type players in league one, who can't even specialise in their role.
As you say, it's up to Jones now. No more players incoming, and we can't rely on that anyway, as it's clear we won't spend substantial fees to secure the top level players in this league. I am concerned he can't sort this out, as I think we just lack too many players that are actually good at football. His only option might be to play even more defensive and become a dirty side, similar to how Evans had Stevenage playing. Cause I can't see us playing liquid football any time soon.
This makes me think he is going to go even more defensive next match.
One thing I’ve noticed in his pre match interviews is he always talks about how games at this level are difficult. I totally agree with him, and don’t think anyone has the right to win games, but the way he talks about it just makes me feel like it feeds into this negative defensive mindset.
He wants us to be a front footed team, but all I’ve seen this season is us being back footed and trying to nick goals - like a team who trying to avoid relegation would play.