They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
I agree with this 100%. But the relegation thing is the reason it will never be adopted.
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
I agree with this 100%. But the relegation thing is the reason it will never be adopted.
I know, but a boy can dream...
South Africa will really punish the sort of mistakes that Ireland made tonight, and the final score did flatter Ireland a bit.
Today's Tonga are far superior team to their previous World Cup adventures, they'd give anyone a challenging game.
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
That's a fucking disgrace! England should have at least 20 votes...
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
That's a fucking disgrace! England should have at least 20 votes...
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
We’ve become consistently better since so many South Africans and Australians discovered what a nice place Scotland is to live in.
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
Why would I be offended, even if it were true? They aren't 'usually pretty crap' and I agree about the relegation of the last spot as other teams in the northern hemisphere should have a chance.
Personally I don't agree with South Africa joining - different rugby seasons and whilst no real time difference, I don't see the need to travel thousands of miles to play any SA home games. I would be equally against any southern hemisphere country joining a northern hemisphere tournament in the northern hemisphere rugby season.
South Africa looking really strong, sad to see Romania struggling more today than against Ireland (there's an awful lot physicality in the South African game, and it's really difficult to defend against).
A real shame Romania haven't managed a score, with 2 minutes to go.
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
Why would I be offended, even if it were true? They aren't 'usually pretty crap' and I agree about the relegation of the last spot as other teams in the northern hemisphere should have a chance.
Personally I don't agree with South Africa joining - different rugby seasons and whilst no real time difference, I don't see the need to travel thousands of miles to play any SA home games. I would be equally against any southern hemisphere country joining a northern hemisphere tournament in the northern hemisphere rugby season.
Italy and Scotland would be, by a long way, the most likely candidates for relegation, if there were to be an extension of the Six Nations to accommodate promotion and relegation between 'the six' and 'the rest'. There has only been two season in which a team other than Italy or Scotland has ended up with the wooden spoon: ten years ago it was France, ten years prior to that it was Wales.
That's why Italy and Scotland would always be two turkeys never wanting to vote for Christmas.
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
We’ve become consistently better since so many South Africans and Australians discovered what a nice place Scotland is to live in.
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
Why would I be offended, even if it were true? They aren't 'usually pretty crap' and I agree about the relegation of the last spot as other teams in the northern hemisphere should have a chance.
Personally I don't agree with South Africa joining - different rugby seasons and whilst no real time difference, I don't see the need to travel thousands of miles to play any SA home games. I would be equally against any southern hemisphere country joining a northern hemisphere tournament in the northern hemisphere rugby season.
Italy and Scotland would be, by a long way, the most likely candidates for relegation, if there were to be an extension of the Six Nations to accommodate promotion and relegation between 'the six' and 'the rest'. There has only been two season in which a team other than Italy or Scotland has ended up with the wooden spoon: ten years ago it was France, ten years prior to that it was Wales.
That's why Italy and Scotland would always be two turkeys never wanting to vote for Christmas.
Correct about Italy but incorrect about Scotland. But I wouldn't expect you to get any fact correct!
Scotland have finished ahead of Wales 5 times in the last 10 years!
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
We’ve become consistently better since so many South Africans and Australians discovered what a nice place Scotland is to live in.
The SpringJocks
Van der Merwe loves Scotland because they gave him a chance no one else did and took a risk - that paid off big time!
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
Why would I be offended, even if it were true? They aren't 'usually pretty crap' and I agree about the relegation of the last spot as other teams in the northern hemisphere should have a chance.
Personally I don't agree with South Africa joining - different rugby seasons and whilst no real time difference, I don't see the need to travel thousands of miles to play any SA home games. I would be equally against any southern hemisphere country joining a northern hemisphere tournament in the northern hemisphere rugby season.
Italy and Scotland would be, by a long way, the most likely candidates for relegation, if there were to be an extension of the Six Nations to accommodate promotion and relegation between 'the six' and 'the rest'. There has only been two season in which a team other than Italy or Scotland has ended up with the wooden spoon: ten years ago it was France, ten years prior to that it was Wales.
That's why Italy and Scotland would always be two turkeys never wanting to vote for Christmas.
Correct about Italy but incorrect about Scotland. But I wouldn't expect you to get any fact correct!
Scotland have finished ahead of Wales 5 times in the last 10 years!
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
Why would I be offended, even if it were true? They aren't 'usually pretty crap' and I agree about the relegation of the last spot as other teams in the northern hemisphere should have a chance.
Personally I don't agree with South Africa joining - different rugby seasons and whilst no real time difference, I don't see the need to travel thousands of miles to play any SA home games. I would be equally against any southern hemisphere country joining a northern hemisphere tournament in the northern hemisphere rugby season.
Italy and Scotland would be, by a long way, the most likely candidates for relegation, if there were to be an extension of the Six Nations to accommodate promotion and relegation between 'the six' and 'the rest'. There has only been two season in which a team other than Italy or Scotland has ended up with the wooden spoon: ten years ago it was France, ten years prior to that it was Wales.
That's why Italy and Scotland would always be two turkeys never wanting to vote for Christmas.
Correct about Italy but incorrect about Scotland. But I wouldn't expect you to get any fact correct!
Scotland have finished ahead of Wales 5 times in the last 10 years!
Scotland's average Six Nations finish on the last 3 years (i.e. current form and trend is equal to England's and higher than Wales
Current world rankings:
1
(1)
Ireland
91.82
2
(2)
South Africa
91.67
3
(3)
France
90.59
4
(4)
New Zealand
87.69
5
(5)
Scotland
83.43
6
(8)
England
83.22
7
(9)
Australia
81.78
8
(10)
Wales
80.66
9
(7)
Fiji
77.88
10
(6)
Argentina
77.59
11
(12)
Samoa
76.19
12
(13)
Italy
75.63
13
(11)
Georgia
74.32
We have won the FA Cup more times than Palace but aren't more likely to win it than them this year!
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
Why would I be offended, even if it were true? They aren't 'usually pretty crap' and I agree about the relegation of the last spot as other teams in the northern hemisphere should have a chance.
Personally I don't agree with South Africa joining - different rugby seasons and whilst no real time difference, I don't see the need to travel thousands of miles to play any SA home games. I would be equally against any southern hemisphere country joining a northern hemisphere tournament in the northern hemisphere rugby season.
Italy and Scotland would be, by a long way, the most likely candidates for relegation, if there were to be an extension of the Six Nations to accommodate promotion and relegation between 'the six' and 'the rest'. There has only been two season in which a team other than Italy or Scotland has ended up with the wooden spoon: ten years ago it was France, ten years prior to that it was Wales.
That's why Italy and Scotland would always be two turkeys never wanting to vote for Christmas.
Correct about Italy but incorrect about Scotland. But I wouldn't expect you to get any fact correct!
Scotland have finished ahead of Wales 5 times in the last 10 years!
Scotland's average Six Nations finish on the last 3 years (i.e. current form and trend is equal to England's and higher than Wales
Current world rankings:
1
(1)
Ireland
91.82
2
(2)
South Africa
91.67
3
(3)
France
90.59
4
(4)
New Zealand
87.69
5
(5)
Scotland
83.43
6
(8)
England
83.22
7
(9)
Australia
81.78
8
(10)
Wales
80.66
9
(7)
Fiji
77.88
10
(6)
Argentina
77.59
11
(12)
Samoa
76.19
12
(13)
Italy
75.63
13
(11)
Georgia
74.32
We have won the FA Cup more times than Palace but aren't more likely to win it than them this year!
Fact: Since the Six Nations started, Italy and Scotland have been in last place more times than any of the other teams.
Opinion: It's for that reason, I think the SRU would vote against relegation from the Six Nations.
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
Why would I be offended, even if it were true? They aren't 'usually pretty crap' and I agree about the relegation of the last spot as other teams in the northern hemisphere should have a chance.
Personally I don't agree with South Africa joining - different rugby seasons and whilst no real time difference, I don't see the need to travel thousands of miles to play any SA home games. I would be equally against any southern hemisphere country joining a northern hemisphere tournament in the northern hemisphere rugby season.
Italy and Scotland would be, by a long way, the most likely candidates for relegation, if there were to be an extension of the Six Nations to accommodate promotion and relegation between 'the six' and 'the rest'. There has only been two season in which a team other than Italy or Scotland has ended up with the wooden spoon: ten years ago it was France, ten years prior to that it was Wales.
That's why Italy and Scotland would always be two turkeys never wanting to vote for Christmas.
Correct about Italy but incorrect about Scotland. But I wouldn't expect you to get any fact correct!
Scotland have finished ahead of Wales 5 times in the last 10 years!
Scotland's average Six Nations finish on the last 3 years (i.e. current form and trend is equal to England's and higher than Wales
Current world rankings:
1
(1)
Ireland
91.82
2
(2)
South Africa
91.67
3
(3)
France
90.59
4
(4)
New Zealand
87.69
5
(5)
Scotland
83.43
6
(8)
England
83.22
7
(9)
Australia
81.78
8
(10)
Wales
80.66
9
(7)
Fiji
77.88
10
(6)
Argentina
77.59
11
(12)
Samoa
76.19
12
(13)
Italy
75.63
13
(11)
Georgia
74.32
We have won the FA Cup more times than Palace but aren't more likely to win it than them this year!
Fact: Since the Six Nations started, Italy and Scotland have been in last place more times than any of the other teams.
Opinion: It's for that reason, I think the SRU would vote against relegation from the Six Nations.
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
Why would I be offended, even if it were true? They aren't 'usually pretty crap' and I agree about the relegation of the last spot as other teams in the northern hemisphere should have a chance.
Personally I don't agree with South Africa joining - different rugby seasons and whilst no real time difference, I don't see the need to travel thousands of miles to play any SA home games. I would be equally against any southern hemisphere country joining a northern hemisphere tournament in the northern hemisphere rugby season.
Italy and Scotland would be, by a long way, the most likely candidates for relegation, if there were to be an extension of the Six Nations to accommodate promotion and relegation between 'the six' and 'the rest'. There has only been two season in which a team other than Italy or Scotland has ended up with the wooden spoon: ten years ago it was France, ten years prior to that it was Wales.
That's why Italy and Scotland would always be two turkeys never wanting to vote for Christmas.
Correct about Italy but incorrect about Scotland. But I wouldn't expect you to get any fact correct!
Scotland have finished ahead of Wales 5 times in the last 10 years!
Scotland's average Six Nations finish on the last 3 years (i.e. current form and trend is equal to England's and higher than Wales
Current world rankings:
1
(1)
Ireland
91.82
2
(2)
South Africa
91.67
3
(3)
France
90.59
4
(4)
New Zealand
87.69
5
(5)
Scotland
83.43
6
(8)
England
83.22
7
(9)
Australia
81.78
8
(10)
Wales
80.66
9
(7)
Fiji
77.88
10
(6)
Argentina
77.59
11
(12)
Samoa
76.19
12
(13)
Italy
75.63
13
(11)
Georgia
74.32
We have won the FA Cup more times than Palace but aren't more likely to win it than them this year!
Fact: Since the Six Nations started, Italy and Scotland have been in last place more times than any of the other teams.
Opinion: It's for that reason, I think the SRU would vote against relegation from the Six Nations.
Fact: we have won the FA Cup more times that Palace but it doesn't make us a better team!
Fact: you don't understand facts, stats or current form. Or chose not to. As usual!
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
Why would I be offended, even if it were true? They aren't 'usually pretty crap' and I agree about the relegation of the last spot as other teams in the northern hemisphere should have a chance.
Personally I don't agree with South Africa joining - different rugby seasons and whilst no real time difference, I don't see the need to travel thousands of miles to play any SA home games. I would be equally against any southern hemisphere country joining a northern hemisphere tournament in the northern hemisphere rugby season.
Italy and Scotland would be, by a long way, the most likely candidates for relegation, if there were to be an extension of the Six Nations to accommodate promotion and relegation between 'the six' and 'the rest'. There has only been two season in which a team other than Italy or Scotland has ended up with the wooden spoon: ten years ago it was France, ten years prior to that it was Wales.
That's why Italy and Scotland would always be two turkeys never wanting to vote for Christmas.
Correct about Italy but incorrect about Scotland. But I wouldn't expect you to get any fact correct!
Scotland have finished ahead of Wales 5 times in the last 10 years!
Scotland's average Six Nations finish on the last 3 years (i.e. current form and trend is equal to England's and higher than Wales
Current world rankings:
1
(1)
Ireland
91.82
2
(2)
South Africa
91.67
3
(3)
France
90.59
4
(4)
New Zealand
87.69
5
(5)
Scotland
83.43
6
(8)
England
83.22
7
(9)
Australia
81.78
8
(10)
Wales
80.66
9
(7)
Fiji
77.88
10
(6)
Argentina
77.59
11
(12)
Samoa
76.19
12
(13)
Italy
75.63
13
(11)
Georgia
74.32
We have won the FA Cup more times than Palace but aren't more likely to win it than them this year!
Fact: Since the Six Nations started, Italy and Scotland have been in last place more times than any of the other teams.
Opinion: It's for that reason, I think the SRU would vote against relegation from the Six Nations.
They are giving it a go. I hate all the tier 1, tier 2 nonsense I think it is really holding rugby back. You don’t see it in football, look at the likes of Iceland who used to get spanked by everyone and now put out decent competitive teams. Give them a chance and they will get better.
Could not agree more.
In Europe the 6 Nations should create a lower division or two with relegation and promotion.
As well as that, get effectively Tier 2 national sides into European club rugby competitions.
Scotland and Italy would never allow relegation. The tier 1 nations have more votes on the world rugby board than the tier 2 nations so they just vote down any progress for tier 2 nations every time. It’s simple protection of their status and earnings. I’m not sure of the exact breakdown but my understanding is a country like England has 5 votes, Tonga maybe 1. So tier 2 nations can never out vote tier 1 nations in any future decisions.
Why do you mention Scotland? I get Italy
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Because if you look at it historically Scotland and Italy are usually near the bottom, yes they are good right now but these tier 1 unions are looking out for themselves, all of them, they will absolutely shit themselves if there was relegation. They would rather add South Africa, as has been mentioned, to the 6 nations than allow a Georgia to join the party. Sorry if I offended you about Scotland but they are usually pretty crap.
Why would I be offended, even if it were true? They aren't 'usually pretty crap' and I agree about the relegation of the last spot as other teams in the northern hemisphere should have a chance.
Personally I don't agree with South Africa joining - different rugby seasons and whilst no real time difference, I don't see the need to travel thousands of miles to play any SA home games. I would be equally against any southern hemisphere country joining a northern hemisphere tournament in the northern hemisphere rugby season.
Italy and Scotland would be, by a long way, the most likely candidates for relegation, if there were to be an extension of the Six Nations to accommodate promotion and relegation between 'the six' and 'the rest'. There has only been two season in which a team other than Italy or Scotland has ended up with the wooden spoon: ten years ago it was France, ten years prior to that it was Wales.
That's why Italy and Scotland would always be two turkeys never wanting to vote for Christmas.
Correct about Italy but incorrect about Scotland. But I wouldn't expect you to get any fact correct!
Scotland have finished ahead of Wales 5 times in the last 10 years!
Scotland's average Six Nations finish on the last 3 years (i.e. current form and trend is equal to England's and higher than Wales
Current world rankings:
1
(1)
Ireland
91.82
2
(2)
South Africa
91.67
3
(3)
France
90.59
4
(4)
New Zealand
87.69
5
(5)
Scotland
83.43
6
(8)
England
83.22
7
(9)
Australia
81.78
8
(10)
Wales
80.66
9
(7)
Fiji
77.88
10
(6)
Argentina
77.59
11
(12)
Samoa
76.19
12
(13)
Italy
75.63
13
(11)
Georgia
74.32
We have won the FA Cup more times than Palace but aren't more likely to win it than them this year!
Fact: Since the Six Nations started, Italy and Scotland have been in last place more times than any of the other teams.
Opinion: It's for that reason, I think the SRU would vote against relegation from the Six Nations.
Fact: we have won the FA Cup more times that Palace but it doesn't make us a better team!
Fact: you don't understand facts, stats or current form. Or chose not to. As usual!
Leicester have won the Premier League more recently than Arsenal. But I don't think they are more likely to win it again than Arsenal
Comments
South Africa will really punish the sort of mistakes that Ireland made tonight, and the final score did flatter Ireland a bit.
Today's Tonga are far superior team to their previous World Cup adventures, they'd give anyone a challenging game.
Scotland have finished ahead of England in the 2 of the last 3 years and ahead of Wales in 2 of the last 3 too
Personally I don't agree with South Africa joining - different rugby seasons and whilst no real time difference, I don't see the need to travel thousands of miles to play any SA home games. I would be equally against any southern hemisphere country joining a northern hemisphere tournament in the northern hemisphere rugby season.
A real shame Romania haven't managed a score, with 2 minutes to go.
That's why Italy and Scotland would always be two turkeys never wanting to vote for Christmas.
A lot of teams putting in really good performances.
C’mon Fiji! 🙏🏻🫣😬
Scotland have finished ahead of Wales 5 times in the last 10 years!
Come On England
Current world rankings:
We have won the FA Cup more times than Palace but aren't more likely to win it than them this year!
Opinion: It's for that reason, I think the SRU would vote against relegation from the Six Nations.
Fact: you don't understand facts, stats or current form. Or chose not to. As usual!