Think you will find it was decided before the game.
Yeah could well be, but decided by the billionaires? Fans advisor? Rodwell? The players? Somebody presumably has the power to decide, Appleton said he never walks away from a challenge so who pushed him?
Think you will find it was decided before the game.
Yeah could well be, but decided by the billionaires? Fans advisor? Rodwell? The players? Somebody presumably has the power to decide, Appleton said he never walks away from a challenge so who pushed him?
Think the players decided weeks ago he was a busted flush.
Think you will find it was decided before the game.
Yeah could well be, but decided by the billionaires? Fans advisor? Rodwell? The players? Somebody presumably has the power to decide, Appleton said he never walks away from a challenge so who pushed him?
I would have thought it must have been Andy Scott's recommendation explained to and discussed with the rest of the SMT before receiving final approval from Rodwell. If it wasn't then I would argue that the SMT isn't operating as it should.
Trouble is there pride wouldn’t even consider asking or consulting him.
Isint this the same lot who did ask Chris Powell if he would work alongside Holden?
And your point is?
Well quite obvious really. They didn’t seem to have an issue with pride when speaking with Chris Powell, so why would they with Curbs if they felt it necessary?
But only to assist, did they think that would ever be acceptable? Plus not wanting to be wrong about their own expertise.
And why are you sticking up for them!
I’m not sticking up for anyone, it’s not the school playground.
Im just pointing out what I think is a flaw in your logic. I don’t think pride will have anything to do with whether they would ask Curbs or not. It is whether they rate him now or not, and that’s a different conversation.
The most unlikeable Charlton manager I can think of.
Made no effort to connect with the fans to the point of almost trying to goad them with cupped ears and weird press conference quotes; made no in game effort to motivate the players; made poor tactical decisions; made poor substitutions.
He just always came across as dour and miserable. I am probably over analysing but always thought his comments about Fiorini being "a good Manchester boy" was odd, who cares where someone comes from?
He was never the right fit; almost every fan called that right; yet Scott bought him in and talked about moving away from our losing mentality.
I am glad he has gone, reckon his career in management may never recover. Personal preference to replace is Rowett but seems unlikely. Scott needs to be gone too and replaced with some one a lot better.
Think you will find it was decided before the game.
Yeah could well be, but decided by the billionaires? Fans advisor? Rodwell? The players? Somebody presumably has the power to decide, Appleton said he never walks away from a challenge so who pushed him?
Surely it must have been Andy Scott's recommendation explained to and discussed with the rest of the SMT before receiving final approval from Rodwell.
Sounds nice and corporate and procedural and organised when put like that. The whole board of shareholders discussed things then put it to a vote, and the majority shareholding decided to sack Appleton within half an hour. Doesn’t sound credible to me.
Nathan Jones gets my vote. Think he was in charge for one game which we won so has a 100% win rate ! Think he would do well. Apart from Jacko none of the last lot in that list would be anywhere near anyone’s preference for a manager. So sick of this constant merrygo round of managers. They had better get it right this time otherwise it really could be Division 2 . Can’t believe we are even contemplating that possibility.
Appleton gone finally but if you are having a stake in the ownership of this football club would you not be asking questions of the paid employees above his pay grade and asking what the hell is going on here
Thought it was a boring unambitious appointment from the start and it somehow turned out even worse than that. Never seen a manager that seems so disinterested in the club he's managing.
Think he'll struggle to get another League 1 club after this.
We've now got a 15 man or whatever it is ownership group that have lost all faith in the SMT that appointed them and probably now all non collectively think they know what's best!
It's now a salvage job until the end of the season. We don't need to be thinking long term at this stage, we just need to be thinking survival, then reassess if we do manage to stay up.
Whoever comes in, will need to have a great affinity with the club and the fans, because we badly need the fans to get 100% behind the team from the outset, even if we lose to Blackpool, play ugly football, or take a while to finally turn things around. The manager, team and fans need to be 100% united in the survival mission.
It would be a no lose situation for whoever takes it on, they could not possibly do any worse than Appleton. Only three names who would be capable of getting the fans 100% behind them immediately and until the end of the season are:
Curbs, C Powell and maybe Bowyer.
If we can manage to stay up, the future could then be looking bright with the squad that we are currently building and players returning from injury.
Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either.
Clearly lost the players. Feel sorry for Alperton. I imagine coach rather than manager is what he excels at. "Out on the grass" is where he should be and not in management. Perhaps we could consider this in the next appt. I don't really see Bowyer, Jackson, Adkins, Alperton et al as being solid managers. Adkins aside, all needed a Curbishley as a DoF (adkins needed a lobotomy with his blairite nonsense) none were really men with a longterm vision or at least didn't strike me as such. They were either too petulant and childish (Bowysr) or nice (Jacko, Alperton, Holden)
Let's get in an absolute rough house with a pair of old time "b******s" (warnock?!) and a strategy to get this club back up to where it belongs and deserves to be...
Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either.
Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either.
On a humanity basis i feel sorry for Appleton, for whatever reason he failed and had to go, with other regimes he would have gone sooner.
The problem is he has left us as even more of a nut job club and it is difficult to see nay decent manager wanting to come, whilst we are in the state we are and you cannot see us getting out of this state without a decent manager. Every time someone mentions a decentish manager, I ask why would they come here and the answer is I don't know.
To attract the right calibre of manager the Club needs a clear realistic achievable strategy and plan and budget that will achieve it both on and off the playing field and then sell it ti decent managers who can pick it uo and run with it. It maybe that we run this season with an interim playing management team while we set the plan and then go out and sell it to decent managers, to come in in May.
Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either.
What happened exactly at the end?
A number of the senior pros including dobbo just stood in the D chatting.
They weren’t rushing down the tunnel, so something was obviously up
Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either.
What happened exactly at the end?
They let him walk down the tunnel by himself and all stayed out on the pitch. I'm not sure if he even went over to them.
Clearly lost the players. Feel sorry for Alperton. I imagine coach rather than manager is what he excels at. "Out on the grass" is where he should be and not in management. Perhaps we could consider this in the next appt. I don't really see Bowyer, Jackson, Adkins, Alperton et al as being solid managers. Adkins aside, all needed a Curbishley as a DoF (adkins needed a lobotomy with his blairite nonsense) none were really men with a longterm vision or at least didn't strike me as such. They were either too petulant and childish (Bowysr) or nice (Jacko, Alperton, Holden)
Let's get in an absolute rough house with a pair of old time "b******s" (warnock?!) and a strategy to get this club back up to where it belongs and deserves to be...
...12th in League 1!!
There's not been much evidence in recent weeks that he's any good "out on the grass" either...
Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either.
What happened exactly at the end?
A number of the senior pros including dobbo just stood in the D chatting.
They weren’t rushing down the tunnel, so something was obviously up
The only explanation is they knew what was coming, so did Appleton, so begs the question why was he even in charge for the game?
Clearly lost the players. Feel sorry for Alperton. I imagine coach rather than manager is what he excels at. "Out on the grass" is where he should be and not in management. Perhaps we could consider this in the next appt. I don't really see Bowyer, Jackson, Adkins, Alperton et al as being solid managers. Adkins aside, all needed a Curbishley as a DoF (adkins needed a lobotomy with his blairite nonsense) none were really men with a longterm vision or at least didn't strike me as such. They were either too petulant and childish (Bowysr) or nice (Jacko, Alperton, Holden)
Let's get in an absolute rough house with a pair of old time "b******s" (warnock?!) and a strategy to get this club back up to where it belongs and deserves to be...
...12th in League 1!!
If he were any good on the grass we wouldn’t be conceding stupid goals all the time.
Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either.
What happened exactly at the end?
A number of the senior pros including dobbo just stood in the D chatting.
They weren’t rushing down the tunnel, so something was obviously up
The only explanation is they knew what was coming, so did Appleton, so begs the question why was he even in charge for the game?
He was clearly told he had to win it to keep his job and that is why we were still trying to win it after the sending off.
Mental night, never seen a team clearly turn on the manager before even going down the tunnel before, never thought I’d celebrate a sacking in the oak either.
What happened exactly at the end?
A number of the senior pros including dobbo just stood in the D chatting.
They weren’t rushing down the tunnel, so something was obviously up
The only explanation is they knew what was coming, so did Appleton, so begs the question why was he even in charge for the game?
He was clearly told he had to win it to keep his job and that is why we were still trying to win it after the sending off.
How do you know, you were at the theatre weren’t you? I don’t think their keeper made a save all game, I’d argue we didn’t try nowhere near enough to try and win it.
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If it wasn't then I would argue that the SMT isn't operating as it should.
Im just pointing out what I think is a flaw in your logic. I don’t think pride will have anything to do with whether they would ask Curbs or not. It is whether they rate him now or not, and that’s a different conversation.
Made no effort to connect with the fans to the point of almost trying to goad them with cupped ears and weird press conference quotes; made no in game effort to motivate the players; made poor tactical decisions; made poor substitutions.
He just always came across as dour and miserable. I am probably over analysing but always thought his comments about Fiorini being "a good Manchester boy" was odd, who cares where someone comes from?
He was never the right fit; almost every fan called that right; yet Scott bought him in and talked about moving away from our losing mentality.
I am glad he has gone, reckon his career in management may never recover. Personal preference to replace is Rowett but seems unlikely. Scott needs to be gone too and replaced with some one a lot better.
Doesn’t sound credible to me.
Think he'll struggle to get another League 1 club after this.
We've now got a 15 man or whatever it is ownership group that have lost all faith in the SMT that appointed them and probably now all non collectively think they know what's best!
Buckle up.
We don't need to be thinking long term at this stage, we just need to be thinking survival, then reassess if we do manage to stay up.
Whoever comes in, will need to have a great affinity with the club and the fans, because we badly need the fans to get 100% behind the team from the outset, even if we lose to Blackpool, play ugly football, or take a while to finally turn things around.
The manager, team and fans need to be 100% united in the survival mission.
It would be a no lose situation for whoever takes it on, they could not possibly do any worse than Appleton.
Only three names who would be capable of getting the fans 100% behind them immediately and until the end of the season are:
Curbs, C Powell and maybe Bowyer.
If we can manage to stay up, the future could then be looking bright with the squad that we are currently building and players returning from injury.
Let's get in an absolute rough house with a pair of old time "b******s" (warnock?!) and a strategy to get this club back up to where it belongs and deserves to be...
...12th in League 1!!
Hope you haven't drunk it dry
The problem is he has left us as even more of a nut job club and it is difficult to see nay decent manager wanting to come, whilst we are in the state we are and you cannot see us getting out of this state without a decent manager. Every time someone mentions a decentish manager, I ask why would they come here and the answer is I don't know.
To attract the right calibre of manager the Club needs a clear realistic achievable strategy and plan and budget that will achieve it both on and off the playing field and then sell it ti decent managers who can pick it uo and run with it. It maybe that we run this season with an interim playing management team while we set the plan and then go out and sell it to decent managers, to come in in May.
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