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Post-Match Thread: Stevenage vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 16th September 2023 @ 3pm
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Diabolical game of footie. Shows the level of the league that they were top. They have some decent centre backs and they sliced us up a bit on our left hand side first half but other than that, bang ordinary side and we didn't test them at all first half.
Second half of course better but I didn't really see any sort of footballing style on display, Chuks just did Chuks things and caused them problems. Always impressed by Chuks raw power and physicality. I thought Sweeney, Piergianni & Thompson were schooling young Miles, in particular Thomson, Chuks comes on and all of a sudden they're playing completely different. Got to be worth having a look at Piergianni and Sweeney though as I thought they were class in the Carabao cup last season and thought they were very decent again today.
We will take the point considering the circumstances. Need a big home result now against an in-form Wycombe, 4 wins and 1 draw in their last 5 league outings..5 -
Yeah, I admire your optimism but get real ...... there's only 117 points left to play for.killerandflash said:Worth noting, in terms of promotion rivals, that we are currently just 3 points behind Derby and Peterborough, and 6 behind Barnsley, Bolton, Pompey and Wycombe, so it really is all to play for.
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It questions Holden too.blackpool72 said:
Totally agree with Appleton.Callumcafc said:Appleton post match saying he’s having disagreements (I took this to mean in a healthy way - not throwing people under a bus) with the sports scientists about upping the intensity of the training since he came in.
He said it’s paying off with how strongly we finished the game. Thinks we could’ve gone for another 10-15 minutes.
So often this season our players run out of gas after about 70 minutes.
If the so called sports scientists can't see this then they need replacing.
He said that the players would finish pre season fitter than they'd ever been before, but something went badly wrong as most teams we've played this season have looked fitter than us.5 -
We didn't lose and good to see Chuks back and making an impact8
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Just looked at the goal conceded, Jones gets shimmed and doesn't seem to want to stick a leg out, the keeper, either thinks that's going wide or it catches a deflection that can't be seen, but the biggest reason that goal comes about is Dobson leaving the eventual goal scorer to go and help cover the attacking wide player, he should stay where he is.3
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Love Dobbo but he has got to stop trying to be superman sometimes.Bailey said:Just looked at the goal conceded, Jones gets shimmed and doesn't seem to want to stick a leg out, the keeper, either thinks that's going wide or it catches a deflection that can't be seen, but the biggest reason that goal comes about is Dobson leaving the eventual goal scorer to go and help cover the attacking wide player, he should stay where he is.21 -
not sure Dobson trusts the defence and that’s why he so often tries to snuff out the danger in the penalty box rather than cover off some spaceBailey said:Just looked at the goal conceded, Jones gets shimmed and doesn't seem to want to stick a leg out, the keeper, either thinks that's going wide or it catches a deflection that can't be seen, but the biggest reason that goal comes about is Dobson leaving the eventual goal scorer to go and help cover the attacking wide player, he should stay where he is.20 -
Another poor 1st half & again better in the second with the penalty getting us the draw but happy with a point take that & look to improve well done you Reds
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I picked up on this as well - our players have generally looked unfit for a 90-100 minute game all season. So has it been an issue where the performance team have been setting what they consider the optimal limit on a player, rather than figuring out how to get them to the level the coach wants. It sounds like Appleton is challenging the status quo.killerandflash said:
It questions Holden too.blackpool72 said:
Totally agree with Appleton.Callumcafc said:Appleton post match saying he’s having disagreements (I took this to mean in a healthy way - not throwing people under a bus) with the sports scientists about upping the intensity of the training since he came in.
He said it’s paying off with how strongly we finished the game. Thinks we could’ve gone for another 10-15 minutes.
So often this season our players run out of gas after about 70 minutes.
If the so called sports scientists can't see this then they need replacing.
He said that the players would finish pre season fitter than they'd ever been before, but something went badly wrong as most teams we've played this season have looked fitter than us.5 -
You know, it sounds like you could really do with going out for a pint tonight.Valiantphil said:We will be stuck with crap refs, and linos that cant keep up with play all the time we are in this crap league.We can’t defend
We don’t score
Everybody is already on 4 yellows.The rest are injured.We ain’t going nowhere this season, and will lose Dobbo, Miles and CBT in Jan.
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Braziliance said:Diabolical game of footie. Shows the level of the league that they were top. They have some decent centre backs and they sliced us up a bit on our left hand side first half but other than that, bang ordinary side and we didn't test them at all first half.
Second half of course better but I didn't really see any sort of footballing style on display, Chuks just did Chuks things and caused them problems. Always impressed by Chuks raw power and physicality. I thought Sweeney, Piergianni & Thompson were schooling young Miles, in particular Thomson, Chuks comes on and all of a sudden they're playing completely different. Got to be worth having a look at Piergianni and Sweeney though as I thought they were class in the Carabao cup last season and thought they were very decent again today.
We will take the point considering the circumstances. Need a big home result now against an in-form Wycombe, 4 wins and 1 draw in their last 5 league outings..
Do you not think that Miles Leaburn needs a player, say Alfie May to play in a two up front ?
The irony which shouldn't be lost on Charlton Critic's is Chuks Aneke is about the only player we have who can play as a lone central striker because of his strength but when will we see him again ?
Chuks prefers to start on the bench so even if he doesn't have a reaction we will only get limited time out of Aneke.
I will ask again as somebody must know why did we use 6 subs ( another concussion?)and when did May get concussion?
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Taylor concussed today, May concussed in training on Tuesday and must have seven days offsoapboxsam said:Braziliance said:Diabolical game of footie. Shows the level of the league that they were top. They have some decent centre backs and they sliced us up a bit on our left hand side first half but other than that, bang ordinary side and we didn't test them at all first half.
Second half of course better but I didn't really see any sort of footballing style on display, Chuks just did Chuks things and caused them problems. Always impressed by Chuks raw power and physicality. I thought Sweeney, Piergianni & Thompson were schooling young Miles, in particular Thomson, Chuks comes on and all of a sudden they're playing completely different. Got to be worth having a look at Piergianni and Sweeney though as I thought they were class in the Carabao cup last season and thought they were very decent again today.
We will take the point considering the circumstances. Need a big home result now against an in-form Wycombe, 4 wins and 1 draw in their last 5 league outings..
Do you not think that Miles Leaburn needs a player, say Alfie May to play in a two up front ?
The irony which shouldn't be lost on Charlton Critic's is Chuks Aneke is about the only player we have who can play as a lone central striker because of his strength but when will we see him again ?
Chuks prefers to start on the bench so even if he doesn't have a reaction we will only get limited time out of Aneke.
I will ask again as somebody must know why did we use 6 subs ( another concussion?)and when did May get concussion?2 -
Taylor went off under the concussion protocol. Can’t help with Alfie.soapboxsam said:Braziliance said:Diabolical game of footie. Shows the level of the league that they were top. They have some decent centre backs and they sliced us up a bit on our left hand side first half but other than that, bang ordinary side and we didn't test them at all first half.
Second half of course better but I didn't really see any sort of footballing style on display, Chuks just did Chuks things and caused them problems. Always impressed by Chuks raw power and physicality. I thought Sweeney, Piergianni & Thompson were schooling young Miles, in particular Thomson, Chuks comes on and all of a sudden they're playing completely different. Got to be worth having a look at Piergianni and Sweeney though as I thought they were class in the Carabao cup last season and thought they were very decent again today.
We will take the point considering the circumstances. Need a big home result now against an in-form Wycombe, 4 wins and 1 draw in their last 5 league outings..
Do you not think that Miles Leaburn needs a player, say Alfie May to play in a two up front ?
The irony which shouldn't be lost on Charlton Critic's is Chuks Aneke is about the only player we have who can play as a lone central striker because of his strength but when will we see him again ?
Chuks prefers to start on the bench so even if he doesn't have a reaction we will only get limited time out of Aneke.
I will ask again as somebody must know why did we use 6 subs ( another concussion?)and when did May get concussion?2 -
Don't see anyone writing him off, but he was poor today.swordfish said:Please tell me that people haven't written off a young player inexperienced at this level making his debut out of position in a new team that's been struggling. To any that have, I place no value whatsoever on your opinion4 -
But if Dobson doesn’t move to shut him down and he walks into the box and sets up a tap in, we’d be asking why he didn’t go over to cover the beaten Edun. The real problem was Jones not picking up anyone, and, like Curbs and Brownie, I’ve no idea what Isted was trying to do.Bailey said:Just looked at the goal conceded, Jones gets shimmed and doesn't seem to want to stick a leg out, the keeper, either thinks that's going wide or it catches a deflection that can't be seen, but the biggest reason that goal comes about is Dobson leaving the eventual goal scorer to go and help cover the attacking wide player, he should stay where he is.Lots of blame all around for that goal.2 -
Yes, Ness came on as a concussion sub. Taylor got trod on by a Stevenage player after we had a corner. Was down for a fairly long time and helped to be helped off and looked fairly dazed. Hope he is Ok.soapboxsam said:Braziliance said:Diabolical game of footie. Shows the level of the league that they were top. They have some decent centre backs and they sliced us up a bit on our left hand side first half but other than that, bang ordinary side and we didn't test them at all first half.
Second half of course better but I didn't really see any sort of footballing style on display, Chuks just did Chuks things and caused them problems. Always impressed by Chuks raw power and physicality. I thought Sweeney, Piergianni & Thompson were schooling young Miles, in particular Thomson, Chuks comes on and all of a sudden they're playing completely different. Got to be worth having a look at Piergianni and Sweeney though as I thought they were class in the Carabao cup last season and thought they were very decent again today.
We will take the point considering the circumstances. Need a big home result now against an in-form Wycombe, 4 wins and 1 draw in their last 5 league outings..
Do you not think that Miles Leaburn needs a player, say Alfie May to play in a two up front ?
The irony which shouldn't be lost on Charlton Critic's is Chuks Aneke is about the only player we have who can play as a lone central striker because of his strength but when will we see him again ?
Chuks prefers to start on the bench so even if he doesn't have a reaction we will only get limited time out of Aneke.
I will ask again as somebody must know why did we use 6 subs ( another concussion?)and when did May get concussion?
And May got hit in the face by a ball last week in training and was diagnosed with mild concussion.2 -
May took the ball hard in the face during training last Tuesday, and deemed to have suffered mild concussion, Sam.soapboxsam said:Braziliance said:Diabolical game of footie. Shows the level of the league that they were top. They have some decent centre backs and they sliced us up a bit on our left hand side first half but other than that, bang ordinary side and we didn't test them at all first half.
Second half of course better but I didn't really see any sort of footballing style on display, Chuks just did Chuks things and caused them problems. Always impressed by Chuks raw power and physicality. I thought Sweeney, Piergianni & Thompson were schooling young Miles, in particular Thomson, Chuks comes on and all of a sudden they're playing completely different. Got to be worth having a look at Piergianni and Sweeney though as I thought they were class in the Carabao cup last season and thought they were very decent again today.
We will take the point considering the circumstances. Need a big home result now against an in-form Wycombe, 4 wins and 1 draw in their last 5 league outings..
Do you not think that Miles Leaburn needs a player, say Alfie May to play in a two up front ?
The irony which shouldn't be lost on Charlton Critic's is Chuks Aneke is about the only player we have who can play as a lone central striker because of his strength but when will we see him again ?
Chuks prefers to start on the bench so even if he doesn't have a reaction we will only get limited time out of Aneke.
I will ask again as somebody must know why did we use 6 subs ( another concussion?)and when did May get concussion?
We used 6 subs today ..... after Terry Taylor took a blow to the head - no risks taken with head injuries.2 -
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Taylor concussed today, May concussed in training on Tuesday and must have seven days offsoapboxsam said:Braziliance said:Diabolical game of footie. Shows the level of the league that they were top. They have some decent centre backs and they sliced us up a bit on our left hand side first half but other than that, bang ordinary side and we didn't test them at all first half.
Second half of course better but I didn't really see any sort of footballing style on display, Chuks just did Chuks things and caused them problems. Always impressed by Chuks raw power and physicality. I thought Sweeney, Piergianni & Thompson were schooling young Miles, in particular Thomson, Chuks comes on and all of a sudden they're playing completely different. Got to be worth having a look at Piergianni and Sweeney though as I thought they were class in the Carabao cup last season and thought they were very decent again today.
We will take the point considering the circumstances. Need a big home result now against an in-form Wycombe, 4 wins and 1 draw in their last 5 league outings..
Do you not think that Miles Leaburn needs a player, say Alfie May to play in a two up front ?
The irony which shouldn't be lost on Charlton Critic's is Chuks Aneke is about the only player we have who can play as a lone central striker because of his strength but when will we see him again ?
Chuks prefers to start on the bench so even if he doesn't have a reaction we will only get limited time out of Aneke.
I will ask again as somebody must know why did we use 6 subs ( another concussion?)and when did May get concussion?
Thanks Ross, Oggy, Large and Fortune 👍4 -
I nearly didn’t watch the second half and was looking out some appropriate gifs for this thread. Thankfully it improved a bit and, as others have said, a point on the road against the league leaders is not to be sniffed at. However, it is frustrating that after a full month of the season we still have no idea of our best 11 and, even if we did, not a clue when we could get them all on the pitch at the same time. Hopefully MA will have realised after this that the youngsters need to be rested if possible. He will have also realised that he has to chose between two less than ideal goalkeepers and in centre half's we are rich in quantity but low on quality. Stevenage were no mugs unlike some opposition that have rolled us over in recent weeks so that is encouraging at least.Good to have Chuks back. He was a proper weapon for half an hour and he has already proved me wrong as I didn’t think we’d see him back in a Charlton shirt again. I hope this renaissance lasts a while longer than previous attempts.Shout out to the travelling Addicks. Made a proper noise on the stream.2
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It’s not. Where’s the foul? He jumps over his foot and dives.Callumcafc said:
Can’t tell if this is irony?The Red Robin said:11 - Sponsored links:
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Of course he does mate, Alf not being on the pitch made a massive difference today I thought. He gives defenders little time to pass it around and their so called 'dark art' antics were allowed even further as no one pressures defenders for us like Alf does.soapboxsam said:Braziliance said:Diabolical game of footie. Shows the level of the league that they were top. They have some decent centre backs and they sliced us up a bit on our left hand side first half but other than that, bang ordinary side and we didn't test them at all first half.
Second half of course better but I didn't really see any sort of footballing style on display, Chuks just did Chuks things and caused them problems. Always impressed by Chuks raw power and physicality. I thought Sweeney, Piergianni & Thompson were schooling young Miles, in particular Thomson, Chuks comes on and all of a sudden they're playing completely different. Got to be worth having a look at Piergianni and Sweeney though as I thought they were class in the Carabao cup last season and thought they were very decent again today.
We will take the point considering the circumstances. Need a big home result now against an in-form Wycombe, 4 wins and 1 draw in their last 5 league outings..
Do you not think that Miles Leaburn needs a player, say Alfie May to play in a two up front ?
The irony which shouldn't be lost on Charlton Critic's is Chuks Aneke is about the only player we have who can play as a lone central striker because of his strength but when will we see him again ?
Chuks prefers to start on the bench so even if he doesn't have a reaction we will only get limited time out of Aneke.
I will ask again as somebody must know why did we use 6 subs ( another concussion?)and when did May get concussion?
Miles will learn but Thompson had his number for sure. Hopefully Miles picks it up, just back from an injury after all.
Chuks is amazing, if the bloke didn't have fitness issues I can only imagine how good he could be. I have never seen a stronger player at Charlton than Chuks, just brushes people away and then looks relatively quick on the shoulder as well. Hope we can see more of him1 -
I thought Abankwah showed flashes of really good play but struggled to cope with the Stevenage physicality. Fingers crossed he’s got the ability to learn quickly because I think today would’ve been a rude awakening for him.1
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Terrible defending for their goal. From Dobbo leaving his man (and he was poor today, especially in the first half) to Jones pathetic attempt to stick a foot (it was the wrong one) in to, well I’m still not sure what Isted was doing. Just dreadful.We were so poor in the first half, but still should have had a penalty for the challenge on Karoy. The ref/linesmen were appalling all game. Too many “boys” on the pitch, against a team of “men”. As a few have said, we are too nice and not enough players who can stick a foot in and be niggly/mix it up with the opposition.I was shocked to see Chuks on the bench, but he made the difference. Their defenders had an easy time against Miles & Tyreece and they had time to double & treble up on CBT when we got the ball to him.
Chuks & Taylor can be pleased with themselves & Tedic looked better, although it was a soft penalty to finally get. Lovely finish from Corey. Louie also did well coming on and certainly wasn’t backward about letting the ref know what he should be doing.
It’s hard to say, because we’ve fallen so far, but that’s a good point. With the returnees today and May, Camara & Fraser to come back as well as Tennai (who I’d almost forgotten about), Appleton will have better options than Holden did. He needs to get them believing in themselves. Oh, and bring Maynard-Brewer back too.16 -
Not written him off, but he was terrible.swordfish said:Please tell me that people haven't written off a young player inexperienced at this level making his debut out of position in a new team that's been struggling. To any that have, I place no value whatsoever on your opinion8 -
the defender played the man not the ball after his heavy first touch.The Red Robin said:
It’s not. Where’s the foul? He jumps over his foot and dives.Callumcafc said:
Can’t tell if this is irony?The Red Robin said:6 -
Still MA has not won his first game in charge at a new club0
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Yep. That’s the game I watched.TelMc32 said:Terrible defending for their goal. From Dobbo leaving his man (and he was poor today, especially in the first half) to Jones pathetic attempt to stick a foot (it was the wrong one) in to, well I’m still not sure what Isted was doing. Just dreadful.We were so poor in the first half, but still should have had a penalty for the challenge on Karoy. The ref/linesmen were appalling all game. Too many “boys” on the pitch, against a team of “men”. As a few have said, we are too nice and not enough players who can stick a foot in and be niggly/mix it up with the opposition.I was shocked to see Chuks on the bench, but he made the difference. Their defenders had an easy time against Miles & Tyreece and they had time to double & treble up on CBT when we got the ball to him.
Chuks & Taylor can be pleased with themselves & Tedic looked better, although it was a soft penalty to finally get. Lovely finish from Corey. Louie also did well coming on and certainly wasn’t backward about letting the ref know what he should be doing.
It’s hard to say, because we’ve fallen so far, but that’s a good point. With the returnees today and May, Camara & Fraser to come back as well as Tennai (who I’d almost forgotten about), Appleton will have better options than Holden did. He needs to get them believing in themselves. Oh, and bring Maynard-Brewer back too.2 -
Blackpool beat Reading 1-0 in his first game & the first game of last season.ross1 said:Still MA has not won his first game in charge at a new club2 -
I agree. It would have been a rude awakening, since his last game was an international, previously he was in Italy, and he was thrown in out of position after we managed to injure yet another player in training. He made a lot of bad decisions but he has all the above as mitigating factors. I’m not sure what mitigation Jones has. Dear Lord.Callumcafc said:I thought Abankwah showed flashes of really good play but struggled to cope with the Stevenage physicality. Fingers crossed he’s got the ability to learn quickly because I think today would’ve been a rude awakening for him.
Otherwise I’d just like to thank everyone on here who was there today. You were bloody fantastic. It must have given Chuks a lift to hear his name chanted even before he game on. And when the cameras picked up on the whole stand informing the lino of his epic uselessness, well that was priceless. That last half hour is why I spend a gorgeous Saturday indoors watching us being turned over by pub teams.8 -
Was it his first spell at Blackpool or his second, which means not his first game for a new club?Callumcafc said:
Blackpool beat Reading 1-0 in his first game & the first game of last season.ross1 said:Still MA has not won his first game in charge at a new club1
