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Post-Match Thread: Stevenage vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 16th September 2023 @ 3pm

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  • There today, wasn’t great but take a point,
    convinced there is a good team amongst the squad when all fit 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,456
    SE7toSG3 said:
    Great to see Chucks back, amd the travelling support acknowledged that and JFK in a class way today. 

    Game of two half's, awful ref but a points a point and we can build on that. 

    Good to see so many old faces today, and @clive hope you enjoyed the pub in Knebworth, he keeps good beer in there! 
    I did enjoy the pub, good food & good beer.
    A good suggestion by you, much better than a fans bar.
  • Wont even comment on the match officials apart from saying they were completely and utterly hopeless. Can the club put in an official complaint about them? 

    What i will say is that Harry Isted impresses me less and less. Didn't even move today as their goal went in. Struggling to remember when he has ever saved a shot.

    Surely he can't be our number 1 this season?
  • Glad to have got the point 

    Abankwah and Leaburn were playing their way back to form and match sharpness as far as I could tell

    Chuks! Good to see ya, pal!

    Overall, I think we are suffering from a diktat to bring youth through to earn some coin... 

    Appleton came across well in pre and post match interviews.

    COYR!
  • Good Point today 
    The  referee was appalling as so many are in this league and cost us at least two penalties.
    It’s very early days, but an improvement 👍👍
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    edited September 2023
    Wasn't there nor did I watch the stream (legally or illegally) so no comments on the match itself. 

    I came on to say that if (big IF) we can get Fraser & Camara back in the team by the start of October AND Chuks doesn't break down again then we start to have a semblance of a half decent team. Also playing some experienced players rather than kids with hardly any League experience might help us pull away from the bottom of the table. 

    Still think top 6 is a pipe dream but let's see where we are at xmas. If we in the top 10 then maybe we can look upwards rather than downwards....but as it stands this looks like another wasted season. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,850
    It’s not. Where’s the foul? He jumps over his foot and dives. 
    WIND UP ALERT! (and not a very good one!)
  • Wellred
    Wellred Posts: 1,118
    Hard to believe I am happy to get a draw at mighty Stevenage but that's how our club has declined does my nut in
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  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    With so many subs, and a water break, (FFS) and all of the fouling, it's impossible for any team to get any momentum, spoiling the modern game, for me. Difficult watch, starting to look like the NFL.
  • It’s not. Where’s the foul? He jumps over his foot and dives. 
    Watch it again, their bloke lands on Andersons right foot... not the left... stonewall pen. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    SE7toSG3 said:
    Great to see Chucks back, amd the travelling support acknowledged that and JFK in a class way today. 

    Game of two half's, awful ref but a points a point and we can build on that. 

    Good to see so many old faces today, and @clive hope you enjoyed the pub in Knebworth, he keeps good beer in there! 

    I'm pleased that our fans acknowledged Chuks but I think it's time to move on from JFK as he was assassinated 60 years ago and we all know there was more than one gunman 🤔
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    1968CAFC said:
    Good Point today 
    The  referee was appalling as so many are in this league and cost us at least two penalties.
    It’s very early days, but an improvement 👍👍
    It's not just the penalties, every time there's a challenge for the ball, there's a nudge or push in the back that might or might not get punished.
  • Did Appleton go over to the supporters at full time? I hope so as I thought they where excellent today 👏
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    Think AMB would have saved their goal.
  • limeygent said:
    Think AMB would have saved their goal.
    Maybe but either way he sure as hell wouldn't have just stood there and watch the ball go past him!
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited September 2023
    Chuks made the difference at the end, not only was he physical enough to compete with their defence he was making intelligent and dangerous lay offs, something that Leaburn struggled with. In a way he masked our problems, first half and most of the second it was men and against boys. A lot of our youngsters are just not physical enough to compete in this division, Campbell being the worst culprit especially as most of our attacking play went through him. Stevenage were well drilled, super fit and physical. Their attacking play was one touch into the channels and they got the ball into the area super quick. Our players are technically superior but took several touches before laying off meaning our attacks were slow and easy to defend against. We simply don’t play like a League One team and we’re not good enough to play around these physical teams. We need less youngsters and more experienced lower league players.
    Agree we need fewer youngsters right now. Tyreece was a bit lightweight today, Anderson had a slightly off game and Abankwah had a bit of a mare - although Stevenage ruthlessly roughed him up, protected by a weak ref. Only his first match though, and he’ll improve. 
    Chem and Terry look like players. Thomas was quite classy when he came on. Genuinely two footed, which is quite rare in L1. 
    So good to see Aneke return. Get him playing regularly and we’ll be harder to bully. He creates chaos up front. 
    And as I mentioned before, I rated Appleton’s post match interview. He sounds like a proper football man, and his assessment of the performance was spot on. 
    The fans were awesome today. Would have been there, had it not been for a family visit. Kudos to them. I think they made a real difference today.

    And someone should sit the ref down and make him watch the game again. Not just the penalty mistakes, but the constant niggles, pushes and dives from Stevenage - masters of the dark arts. Would love to have snuck a winner in the 110th minute. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679
    No one came away with any credit regarding their goal.
    Edun, Dobson, Jones and the keeper could have all done better 
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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    ross1 said:
    Diabolical game of footie. Shows the level of the league that they were top. They have some decent centre backs and they sliced us up a bit on our left hand side first half but other than that, bang ordinary side and we didn't test them at all first half. 

    Second half of course better but I didn't really see any sort of footballing style on display, Chuks just did Chuks things and caused them problems. Always impressed by Chuks raw power and physicality. I thought Sweeney, Piergianni & Thompson were schooling young Miles, in particular Thomson, Chuks comes on and all of a sudden they're playing completely different. Got to be worth having a look at Piergianni and Sweeney though as I thought they were class in the Carabao cup last season and thought they were very decent again today.

    We will take the point considering the circumstances. Need a big home result now against an in-form Wycombe, 4 wins and 1 draw in their last 5 league outings..

    Do you not think that Miles Leaburn needs a player, say Alfie May to play in a two up front ? 
    The irony which shouldn't be lost on Charlton Critic's is Chuks Aneke is about the only player we have who can play as a lone central striker because of his strength but when will we see him again ? 
    Chuks prefers to start on the bench so even if he doesn't have a reaction we will only get limited time out of Aneke.

    I will ask again as somebody must know why did we use 6 subs ( another concussion?)and when did May get concussion?

    Taylor concussed today, May concussed in training on Tuesday and must have seven days off

    Thanks Ross, Oggy, Large and Fortune 👍
    If there’s anything else you need, don’t hesitate to ask 🙂
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    Would have taken a point before the game.
    Officials were awful.
    Fans were great.
    Enjoyed my day out.
  • jams
    jams Posts: 1,219
    Did the lino give a single decision all game? The handball I can understand the ref missing as he was so far away and I think his view was blocked - but lino must have been looking straight at that!

    Jones I thought did well, goal aside. Abankwah seems to have a bit of quality but will reserve judgement for now. Leaburn looked like he's been out for a while but don't see we had much other choice today.

    Overall we just looked a yard slow and unconfident in the first half, compared to Stevenage who know what they are about and get after it. Second half was much better and chuks changed it - thought all the subs did well to be fair!
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,756
    edited September 2023
    Don’t think we should ever even try and start Chuks. Just leave him for 30 mins max off the bench. He hasn’t played in 7 months and he was brilliant for the spell he was on. Let’s use him as the asset he can be, and not try and push him beyond what he’s able.

    Thought all the subs had a positive impact.

    Great to see us finishing the stronger team for once.

    Lots to work on. But my glass is half full tonight.
  • To quote other posters
    ”lack of Robustness “
    and
    ” not strong enough to play through teams. Not good enough to play around”

    Stevenage were solid and well drilled and played the officials all day long. In the image of the pie man

    We need toughen up and wise up. Maybe, just maybe, Mr Mussels is the man to do just that

    Of course we shouldn’t hold our breath 

  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    JamesSeed said:
    ross1 said:
    Diabolical game of footie. Shows the level of the league that they were top. They have some decent centre backs and they sliced us up a bit on our left hand side first half but other than that, bang ordinary side and we didn't test them at all first half. 

    Second half of course better but I didn't really see any sort of footballing style on display, Chuks just did Chuks things and caused them problems. Always impressed by Chuks raw power and physicality. I thought Sweeney, Piergianni & Thompson were schooling young Miles, in particular Thomson, Chuks comes on and all of a sudden they're playing completely different. Got to be worth having a look at Piergianni and Sweeney though as I thought they were class in the Carabao cup last season and thought they were very decent again today.

    We will take the point considering the circumstances. Need a big home result now against an in-form Wycombe, 4 wins and 1 draw in their last 5 league outings..

    Do you not think that Miles Leaburn needs a player, say Alfie May to play in a two up front ? 
    The irony which shouldn't be lost on Charlton Critic's is Chuks Aneke is about the only player we have who can play as a lone central striker because of his strength but when will we see him again ? 
    Chuks prefers to start on the bench so even if he doesn't have a reaction we will only get limited time out of Aneke.

    I will ask again as somebody must know why did we use 6 subs ( another concussion?)and when did May get concussion?

    Taylor concussed today, May concussed in training on Tuesday and must have seven days off

    Thanks Ross, Oggy, Large and Fortune 👍
    If there’s anything else you need, don’t hesitate to ask 🙂

    Question 1 for you James ?
    Is that the first time in Charlton's history we have used 17 players in a League match ?

    Question 2
    When Thomas came on for Abankwah did Jones go to RB, Hector and Thomas CB and Edun at LB ?

    Question 3
    If Micky Apples had an arm wrestle with Hector, who would win ?
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    A great point. Positive start for Appleton. Baby steps
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    edited September 2023
    Always good for a gentle drift off these games , in and out of consciousness as another wank non league bit of defending leaves me wondering am I having a nightmare or are the last 15 years of mainly utter shit the reality , where a draw at Stevenage is worth a jostle .
    the league is junk , we have more chance than them of making top 6 
    we are carrying some of these youngsters and a bit more experience and nouse will see us rise through the pile of shit that is league one .

    michael Appleton will bring us success , I’m convinced , law of averages and without doubt some of the worst footballing judges there are in our support .

    my 15 year old, Petrolhead mad for us now the fucking crank , went to his first away game without me but was in the Stevenage end with a mate who is a spurs fan but goes to his local club Stevenage 
    said at the end as the players went off and it was empty he got near the tunnel and he gave a Leeeeeaburn shout and Miles gave him a big smile and nod, so he was buzzing and wants to go to more away games, fuck off I hate people 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Bailey said:
    Just looked at the goal conceded, Jones gets shimmed and doesn't seem to want to stick a leg out, the keeper, either thinks that's going wide or it catches a deflection that can't be seen, but the biggest reason that goal comes about is Dobson leaving the eventual goal scorer to go and help cover the attacking wide player, he should stay where he is. 
    But if Dobson doesn’t move to shut him down and he walks into the box and sets up a tap in, we’d be asking why he didn’t go over to cover the beaten Edun. The real problem was Jones not picking up anyone, and, like Curbs and Brownie, I’ve no idea what Isted was trying to do. 

    Lots of blame all around for that goal. 
    Unfortunately the Stevenage player wins the race to the byline, perhaps someone should have taken one for the team to stop him getting there.