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Chuks (p.61 - Released)

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,285
    RC_CAFC said:
    One of the best things about this summer’s business is we can finally just use Chuks as the weapon he was built for. Half an hours impact off the bench. We are not relying on him to do something he can’t.

    It could genuinely be the difference between top 6 and not.

    In the 90 odd minutes he’s played so far, we’re 3-0 up and he’s played a crucial role in 2 of goals and missed a sitter that I’m sure in a few weeks he’ll be burying.
    I think the fact he can’t do the running that Jones wants from his starting strikers will also mean that he doesn’t fall into the trap that previous managers all have, where they realise Chuks is amazing and get greedy and try and start him 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    Lovely strike, he’s naturally so much better than this level. The injuries (still not sure what they really are) are so cruel because he could have had a nice career at a much higher level.
  • The message I got from Chuks interview was 'to keep working hard' !! Good lad and good strike. The other bit of skill he showed was bringing the ball down on the end of his foot from a 70 yd clearance by Mannion. Class.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    Displayed excellent close control, at one stage there were two defenders around him and the juggled the ball past them and created a chance.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    The message I got from Chuks interview was 'to keep working hard' !! Good lad and good strike. The other bit of skill he showed was bringing the ball down on the end of his foot from a 70 yd clearance by Mannion. Class.
    Just don’t work too hard Chuks, don’t want NJ thinking you can start games and lead a high press.
  • Charlotte “Well, Chucks, talk us through your goal”

    Chuks ”Keep working hard, 100%”

    Charlotte ”And it was a great assist from Campbell”

    Chuks “Keep working hard, 100%”

  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    If I was Jones, I might be thinking, can we get 45 minutes a game from him? Maybe a dangerous thought but not an unsurprising one.
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,051
    If I was Jones, I might be thinking, can we get 45 minutes a game from him? Maybe a dangerous thought but not an unsurprising one.
    I think if he stays fit for another month we might see a slight increase in his minutes. Problem is by that point we're deep into two games a week territory so it's more of a risk. He's great off the bench for 30-45 mins, think everyone just needs to be happy with that
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    I think the level of performance in the team will dramatically increase when we can get Leaburn and Godden on the pitch together. To then add Aneke coming on for 30 minutes or so every game is going to cause opposition so many problems, it’ll win us so many points.

    I think we are more desperate to see him play longer because the difference in quality between him and Ahadme is huge, but having Leaburn back will take the pressure off him to perform every time he steps on the pitch.

    Just like the team need to resist the temptation of going long into him so often, because he’s got more to his game than that, Jones will resist the temptation to start him because we have so many options now.

    Use him for what he is and you will get a player who is a level above.

    We just need to ensure we are in a good position for when he comes on so he’s not saving us from defeat or having to win us a game. It’s far more enjoyable if he comes on and helps extend our lead. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Charlotte “Well, Chucks, talk us through your goal”

    Chuks ”Keep working hard, 100%”

    Charlotte ”And it was a great assist from Campbell”

    Chuks “Keep working hard, 100%”
    He's not wrong, working hard = higher chance of results. 
  • Some people find it harder than others to talk about themselves, especially with a camera pointed at them and while still in their kit immediately after playing a game.

    He did the bit that actually matters, scoring the goal, well so I don't care about his interview technique.

    Let the guy be.
  • Sage said:
    I think the level of performance in the team will dramatically increase when we can get Leaburn and Godden on the pitch together. To then add Aneke coming on for 30 minutes or so every game is going to cause opposition so many problems, it’ll win us so many points.

    I think we are more desperate to see him play longer because the difference in quality between him and Ahadme is huge, but having Leaburn back will take the pressure off him to perform every time he steps on the pitch.

    Just like the team need to resist the temptation of going long into him so often, because he’s got more to his game than that, Jones will resist the temptation to start him because we have so many options now.

    Use him for what he is and you will get a player who is a level above.

    We just need to ensure we are in a good position for when he comes on so he’s not saving us from defeat or having to win us a game. It’s far more enjoyable if he comes on and helps extend our lead. 
    It must also be a factor for the opposition manager and team.

    They know he and another, TC this week, are going to be subbed on around 60 mins and have worry how to cope with the change.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    Such a pivotal part to us getting any real success this season imo. The stats speak for themselves. Apart from Bolton, he has been the main influence for picking up points.
    The slight concern for me is that there isn't any real master stroke in tactical nous when we lean on him each time. 
    I don't want to jinx it, but god only knows where the goals are going to come from if the fella....

    Like I said. Don't want to jinx it.
  • Such a pivotal part to us getting any real success this season imo. The stats speak for themselves. Apart from Bolton, he has been the main influence for picking up points.
    The slight concern for me is that there isn't any real master stroke in tactical nous when we lean on him each time. 
    I don't want to jinx it, but god only knows where the goals are going to come from if the fella....

    Like I said. Don't want to jinx it.
    Bit harsh on Bolton - he put in one of the best assists we’ve seen in recent years to put it on a plate for Golden to seal the points - we could have easily drawn that game otherwise, so he’s basically secured us another 2 points there!
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Sage said:
    I think the level of performance in the team will dramatically increase when we can get Leaburn and Godden on the pitch together. To then add Aneke coming on for 30 minutes or so every game is going to cause opposition so many problems, it’ll win us so many points.

    I think we are more desperate to see him play longer because the difference in quality between him and Ahadme is huge, but having Leaburn back will take the pressure off him to perform every time he steps on the pitch.

    Just like the team need to resist the temptation of going long into him so often, because he’s got more to his game than that, Jones will resist the temptation to start him because we have so many options now.

    Use him for what he is and you will get a player who is a level above.

    We just need to ensure we are in a good position for when he comes on so he’s not saving us from defeat or having to win us a game. It’s far more enjoyable if he comes on and helps extend our lead. 

    @Sage I find that players who return after 10 months out of the game, without a competitive pre-season, rarely hit their previous levels from the offset. In fact you usually see them pick up niggles in interrelated body parts from their original injury. 

    You seem confident he will hit the ground running (at full pelt)?
  • I really hope Jones doesn't get sucked in to trying to start Chuks. So often over the past few years we have tried to start him because of how influential he is, invariably he breaks down and is out for months. Much better to stick with 30 mins max and have him available for the majority of games than have him start a few games and then be out for a period.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Charlotte “Well, Chucks, talk us through your goal”

    Chuks ”Keep working hard, 100%”

    Charlotte ”And it was a great assist from Campbell”

    Chuks “Keep working hard, 100%”
    He's not wrong, working hard = higher chance of results. 
    True.
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  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    mendonca said:
    Sage said:
    I think the level of performance in the team will dramatically increase when we can get Leaburn and Godden on the pitch together. To then add Aneke coming on for 30 minutes or so every game is going to cause opposition so many problems, it’ll win us so many points.

    I think we are more desperate to see him play longer because the difference in quality between him and Ahadme is huge, but having Leaburn back will take the pressure off him to perform every time he steps on the pitch.

    Just like the team need to resist the temptation of going long into him so often, because he’s got more to his game than that, Jones will resist the temptation to start him because we have so many options now.

    Use him for what he is and you will get a player who is a level above.

    We just need to ensure we are in a good position for when he comes on so he’s not saving us from defeat or having to win us a game. It’s far more enjoyable if he comes on and helps extend our lead. 

    @Sage I find that players who return after 10 months out of the game, without a competitive pre-season, rarely hit their previous levels from the offset. In fact you usually see them pick up niggles in interrelated body parts from their original injury. 

    You seem confident he will hit the ground running (at full pelt)?
    They’ve taken their time with Miles and made sure he’s fully hit each stage of the recovery. He’s also grown and matured into his body now and looks to have gained some strength. With Dr Abbott around, and the extra work they’ve put into the sports science and conditioning department, I’m far more confident he’ll be effective, and more effective than Ahadme certainly, than if things were 12 months ago or later.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,051

  • fenaddick said:

    Yeah take that Haaland. You try coming on as a sub when everyone else on the pitch is nice and warm and you have to catch up with play. Not fit to lace Chuks boots. 😉
  • Because I am sad and like spreadsheets I did some stats on Chuks' charlton career so far.

    114 apps
    27 goals
    10 assists
    Total mins played: 3917
    avg mins per game: 34.4

    mins per goal; 145
    mins per goal/assist: 105

    Thats almost a G/A a game, crazy numbers at this level.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,051
    I guess in reality it's a G/A every 3 games as he can only do 30ish mins but that's still a great return. Would put him on about 15 G/A assists a season which is incredibly useful for a sub. Wouldn't be surprised if he ended up bringing that mins per G/A number down this season too, he looks much more of a threat than in his (limited) appearances last season
  • Best impact sub since Garry Nelson, can’t understand why folk get fed up about him. 

    As soon as we are behind or need to go up a gear - Chuks is your man. 
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    edited September 2024
    He doesn't always make a difference when he comes on.

    Very ineffectual at the tail end of last season and absolute dog shit at Reading last week. 

  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,285
    Sage said:
    I think the level of performance in the team will dramatically increase when we can get Leaburn and Godden on the pitch together. To then add Aneke coming on for 30 minutes or so every game is going to cause opposition so many problems, it’ll win us so many points.

    I think we are more desperate to see him play longer because the difference in quality between him and Ahadme is huge, but having Leaburn back will take the pressure off him to perform every time he steps on the pitch.

    Just like the team need to resist the temptation of going long into him so often, because he’s got more to his game than that, Jones will resist the temptation to start him because we have so many options now.

    Use him for what he is and you will get a player who is a level above.

    We just need to ensure we are in a good position for when he comes on so he’s not saving us from defeat or having to win us a game. It’s far more enjoyable if he comes on and helps extend our lead. 
    Chuks is better with his feet than his head. He does do pretty well at retaining the ball when we hoof it long to him, but I wish we’d try and work the ball to his feet more rather than just hitting long diagonals to his head. His link up play is excellent when he gets it deeper, and he can roll defenders easily and get shots off if you get it to him on the edge of the box. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,285
    Nearly all of our recent managers fell into the trap of getting greedy with Chuks because he’s so good, that they tried starting him. I think with Jones we are lucky that because of his high intensity style, I don’t think he will fall into the trap because Aneke just can’t do the running that Jones wants for the first hour of a game 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    https://x.com/nozza_/status/1833128134528368780?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q

    First Touch: 20
    Strength: 20
    Balance: 20

    Got to be his ratings for FM25